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anon444877 · 04/11/2020 15:59

I can't see it - if Biden is clearly ahead in popular vote and electoral college, trump is gonna to get nowhere whatever he does. Courage, hold on!

The USPS losing 27 percent mailed votes in Florida and in Atlanta is horrendous, if the dems don't get GA THEY may need to speak that with more success.

If the mail in situation had been factored in the last 18 hours would have looked more optimistic.

May or no result tonight because of these factors...agree they'll be very careful.

anon444877 · 04/11/2020 16:01

Ah so many typos - too excited. Idk the % usps votes lost in Atlanta or if the Florida numbers for lost ballots are true but it's amazing.

So trump and his legal action - could very badly misfire.

anon444877 · 04/11/2020 16:14

Twitter throwing about 18 percent Atlanta mail in ballots not delivered, yikes.

RedToothBrush · 04/11/2020 16:16

@anon444877

Twitter throwing about 18 percent Atlanta mail in ballots not delivered, yikes.
That would give Trump Georgia.
Minimammoth · 04/11/2020 16:18

Nail biting stuff. I am worried for Biden though he looks exhausted poor man, and is going a bit,dare I say it. Orange

anon444877 · 04/11/2020 16:19

Exactly so the dems should not concede GA without recount and clarity. Trump's mail in fraud chuntering is going to misfire on him.

Even if it takes more days it's looking like genius democrat strategy to push mail in votes...

Roussette · 04/11/2020 16:23

I've had a nap, (still feel sooo tired) woken up to a slightly more positive picture.
Biden's campaign team say they are hoping to call it tonight.
Trump's tweets.... well... they're trump's tweets and even twitter has labelled them as 'misleading'

Across I do hope your son is OK, it must be so stressful to be over there with the waiting.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/11/2020 16:24

70m votes for Biden so far—the most of any presidential candidate in US history.
twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1324018654950903811?s=21

Anniegetyourgun · 04/11/2020 16:25

On another talk site I was dipping into earlier, someone pointed out that given all the dirty tricks the Repubs have been up to, including gutting the postal service, voter suppression, lies, disinformation, targeted social media campaigns etc etc, it's unfair to castigate the Dems for running a poor campaign. They've actually done terrifically well under the circumstances.

My thought - slightly informed by a faint memory of a commentary I read following the 2016 election - is that a lot of the Republican support is not about Trump as a person at all. Outside his fanatical groupies, probably most of them don't like him or even take much notice of him. Such voters don't believe in strong, effective government. They don't want the economy managed, they want it left alone. And there are the issues that we kind of assume most people will agree with, but quite often they have a different perspective. Someone mentioned the black woman who voted for Trump to save unborn babies. On BBC R4 this morning someone said the Florida result is a lot to do with the oil and gas industry (presumably Biden/Harris are too environmentally friendly - ironic for those who don't believe they will do nearly enough). There are also those who will revolt against the dreadful threat to encourage everyone to wear masks. Biden has also mentioned putting up taxes for the rich; well, what if I got rich? And so on. Trump's personality is irrelevant as long as he goes on not regulating stuff they don't want regulated. I'm not sure he'd be grateful for that.

Roussette · 04/11/2020 16:29

Hasn't mail in voting become such a thing because of Covid? If you don't worry about wearing a mask or queueing, you might not feel the need to apply for a mail in ballot.

This from Mayor Pete..

Pete Buttigieg
@PeteButtigieg
Waiting is hard. That's as normal and human as it gets. But we're waiting because so many people voted and because election workers are carefully ensuring that every vote is counted properly—and that is a good thing.

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/11/2020 16:32

Thanks Roussette, he got off to work OK but looks as if he has the weight of the world on his shoulders.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/11/2020 16:32

Across as you say, MH is difficult enough to maintain under normal circumstances. This must be particularly hard to process. Flowers to anyone here who is struggling.

After 4 years on these threads I suddenly feel like crying.

Delphinium20 · 04/11/2020 16:33

My Facebook is all, "Why don't we know? This should have been a landslide. Was almost 300K deaths from the coronavirus some kind of campaign ad for the GOP?"

Delphinium20 · 04/11/2020 16:34

@TheNorthWestPawsage hugs to you. Yes. So grateful for you all!!Thanks

Roussette · 04/11/2020 16:38

NorthWest I can imagine Flowers to you. So glad you've been here to keep us informed and supported, it's been a long road

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CoffeeandCroissant · 04/11/2020 16:39

Joe Biden has won Wisconsin by 20,697 votes.

Dongdingdong · 04/11/2020 16:40

Joe Biden is new president of the USA - now Michigan has gone in his favour the Republicans don’t stand a chance. Bye bye Trump!

anon444877 · 04/11/2020 16:43

Wahooooooo!

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/11/2020 16:43

Hallelujah! Now I am crying Grin

RedToothBrush · 04/11/2020 16:43

Wisconsin looks like its blue. And we think it escapes a recount.

cantdothisnow1 · 04/11/2020 16:43

Where are you seeing this, CNN not reporting?

BruceAndNosh · 04/11/2020 16:44

McNinny has been very quiet for the last couple of days.

Actually correction. She is avidly tweeting from her personal twitter account rather than her WH @PressSec one.

CoffeeandCroissant · 04/11/2020 16:46

@cantdothisnow1

Where are you seeing this, CNN not reporting?
mobile.twitter.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1324027105982763011
RedToothBrush · 04/11/2020 16:46

Talk is Wisconsin swung on BLM issue.

Roussette · 04/11/2020 16:46

Trump... you can't have it all ways.

James Ball
@jamesrbuk
The reason early ballots haven’t been counted in three key states is Republicans changed the law to ban it.
Trump’s now demanding those votes don’t get counted.
That’s a premeditated scheme to undermine an election.

@KirstenPowers
REMINDER—Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin election officials were not allowed to begin processing absentee ballots until on or just before Election Day, after Republican-led state legislatures opposed changing laws to allow earlier preparations like other states.

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