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To have had enough of the stupid expectations people have of step parents?

146 replies

YarToTheNar · 02/11/2020 09:57

And how no one seems to be able to accept that everyone's situation is different.

All you ever seem to hear is the constant trotting out of 'love like your own', 'they are your children too now', 'what if they were your biological children' etc...

I'm so sick of the rigid expectations people put on (mainly) women step parents without any appreciation for the fact that it isn't usually solely down to the step parent how the relationship turns out.

You see people talking about how SMs should leave everything equally in their wills for example because 'you're a family now', or acting like it's a cardinal sin if a woman admits she finds her SC hard to deal with or doesn't love them as much as her own children.

The amount of times I see ex wives and step mothers being played off against each other is maddening, almost as maddening as how often the step mother falls into the trap of doing all the shit work so Dad doesn't have to.

People act like it's impossible to be a good person and even a good step mother unless you absolutely 100% dote on the children and love them unconditionally and provide for them exactly as you would your own (always financially obviously) but in the same breath expect you not to step on anyone's toes, back off, don't get too involved.

And the 'what if they were your kids' argument really winds me up. Because it's totally irrelevant. They aren't the step parents child and in lots of circumstances where there are two involved parents, you can't always treat them like your own child because you don't have the parental responsibility, or level of control that a parent would have, you don't always get to make the decisions.

Some of the things I see on here and on other platforms is just ludicrous. A step mother was told yesterday on a thread I read that she shouldn't have a pic of her own DC and her husband as her own phone screensaver for Godsake... Confused

Not everyone is in the situation where they have raised step children since 1 years old where they don't see the other parent and you've had to step in and be that person. Lots of people are just trying to navigate a minefield with two involved parents and all the different dynamics that can bring.

You don't need to love your step children like your own children, you don't need to sit in a room sobbing when they leave until they return, you don't need to leave to them equally in your will, you don't need to think everything they do is lovely and perfect, you don't need to accept shit treatment from their parents, you can do things with your own DC, you can have bloody pictures of your own children and so on... Providing you don't stand in the way of contact, are welcoming and friendly why is that not enough? Why do people insist on pressurising (mainly) women in this way?

OP posts:
Bollss · 02/11/2020 15:06

@YouKidsIsCrazy

I think you're overly bothered about what you think other people think. Who cares what nonsense randoms on the internet come out with? IT doesn't affect you. CAre what the kids think most of all, and the adults in the situation. People have a lot of opinions, but why so bothered about them?
Because sometimes, if you go looking for support, it would be nice if you could get it, rather than just get arsey responses about what a horrible person you are. Perhaps if there was a little more understanding of what it is really like, support would be easier to access.
Ivy455 · 02/11/2020 15:21

Do people really say/think this stuff? Personally I wouldn't expect a step parent to automatically love their stepchildren. Although actually, I remember my Dad telling me that a work colleague of his was shocked when he said he didn't love his three stepdaughters. He likes them but doesn't love them and has never tried to parent them. I think he's always been more of a 'fun uncle' figure and that worked well for them. The idea of being a step parent makes me shudder. It's hard enough trying to parent your own kids.

2020iscancelled · 02/11/2020 15:25

Couldn’t agree more.

My SC have two involved parents and don’t need another one. I am not their mum and they don’t need me to act like it.

I would help my DP with a bit of childcare if he needed it but it wouldn’t be a regular thing. His contact time is for him, not for me.

I don’t understand the will thing ? So I have quite a lot of savings and equity in the house as I put the deposit down etc - so naturally this will all go to my own kids (in theory). This isn’t my DP money, this is mine. So if I die, my own kids are left with only one parent but my SC still have both parents to provide financially for them.
If my DP wants to buy his own place or make investments for his first lot of kids then that is absolutely fine, he can split his savings between all this kids.

Now if SC lived here permanently and didn’t have a mum that might be different and my approach would depend on what they needed from me.

It’s thankless being a SP tbh

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 02/11/2020 15:53

I agree with everything you've said OP. There is so much pressure on step parents to love their stepkids like their own. I avoided marrying my (now) husband for years because I didn't want to take on his kids. When we did eventually marry I made it clear that I wasn't going to become another parent to them. But some would say it's not acceptable to do this.

The added guilt I have is that my husband does love my daughter like his own. And of course I'm very happy about that and grateful for their good relationship, but the bottom line is that I don't feel the same way about his kids.

ColdTattyWaitingForSummer · 02/11/2020 16:04

I said this on the other step mum thread and I’ll say it here too..
I’m a “first wife”, my ds already has two parents. I’m glad he gets on with his step mum, and I’m glad she cares about him. She’s welcome to enforce her rules in her house. BUT she is not entitled to an equal say (deciding vote) when it comes to his upbringing. It’s NOT ok for her to send me abusive texts when she disagrees with me. I’d much rather she had the welcoming but hands off role many mention on here. I don’t expect her to “love him as her own”, because he’s not.
Not all step mums are wicked, but not all resident mums are bitter shrews either.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 02/11/2020 16:08

My DS has a stepmum. I agree with you. I don't expect her to love DS like her own, I don't even expect her to love DS - I can't imagine loving a child that isn't mine personally. I do not expect her to contribute financially or play a parental role in DS's upbringing. These are things I expect from DS's dad.

All I expect from SM is that she treats DS well and with kindness and always makes him welcome in their home at any time.

SandyY2K · 02/11/2020 16:09

it seems to me there is a far higher number of mothers and step mothers that have issues with each other than there are father's and step dads.

Men don't talk as much about their problems or this kind of thing and certainly not on public forums in the same numbers as women do.

Notanotherwooname · 02/11/2020 16:23

At the end of the day, I think if you get together with someone who already had kids, you have to be prepared to put them first, or choose someone else to marry. Because this is the child’s one and only childhood you’re potentially fucking up.

My kids’ SM is doing a shitty job. She doesn’t get any grief for it from me, we don’t have any sort of a relationship. I’ve never wanted her to parent my kids, but she is doing her level best to drive a wedge between my kids and their dad now that she’s got her own kids. And there’s no excuse that she’s been presented with unlovable teenagers - the kids were preschool when she first met them. Obviously most of the blame must lie with my ex, because he’s letting her get away with it, but the children feel unwanted and like guests in their own home.

And my view is rather coloured by the fact that my DH has spent the last decade parenting them like his own. And having two together didn’t change that - he carried on with all the 101 tasks that parents do for their kids because they love them.

So I haven’t got much time for the poor arguments people give for treating SC badly. If you can’t do it, don’t. Find a different partner.

funinthesun19 · 02/11/2020 16:37

I’m sure being a step parent is a thankless task, however people choose to be a step parent.

Stepparents don’t choose the unreasonable bits though. And they don’t have crystal balls either.

Bollss · 02/11/2020 16:39

@funinthesun19

I’m sure being a step parent is a thankless task, however people choose to be a step parent.

Stepparents don’t choose the unreasonable bits though. And they don’t have crystal balls either.

if i did, i would have run a bloody mile let me tell you Grin
Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 02/11/2020 16:41

Well the solution is very simple. Dont enter into a relationship with someone who has children. I wouldn't.

Stantons · 02/11/2020 16:46

@Ivy455 yes they do, go and read some of the posts in step parenting

funinthesun19 · 02/11/2020 16:47

if i did, i would have run a bloody mile let me tell you

Don’t blame you Grin

Well the solution is very simple. Dont enter into a relationship with someone who has children. I wouldn't.

I wouldn’t now. The thought of it makes me shudder.
But my younger self didn’t see it the way I see it now and that’s the reality for a lot of people.

YouKidsIsCrazy · 02/11/2020 16:47

Stepparents don’t choose the unreasonable bits though. And they don’t have crystal balls either

Well if they went into it thinking it would be all easy plain sailing, they're frankly idiots. Like parenting, you get all the bits, good and bad, whether you like it or not.

It's all abut context. If you see your step kids every other weekend, you can be fun aunty. But if they live with you, or you have 50/50 care, you can't pretend you're not in a parenting role of some sort. You don't have to love them like your own, you don't have to love them at all, but if you don't love them at all, or don't like them, how do you think that feels to them?

funinthesun19 · 02/11/2020 16:56

Well if they went into it thinking it would be all easy plain sailing, they're frankly idiots. Like parenting, you get all the bits, good and bad, whether you like it or not.

I don’t think people go in to thinking it will be plain sailing at all. They just don’t expect some things to happen x amount of time down the line.
And parenting is very different to stepparenting. Stepparenting comes with different problems to parenting and different feelings. I’ve found parenting my own children easier than I ever found stepparenting, even though parenting is extremely tough at times. I found being a mum of 4 easier than being a stepmum of 1, which says it all really.

CressidaTheHeathen · 02/11/2020 17:05

I get this totally OP. I’ve posted about this before but as a full time step parent to 3 DC I can agree that too much is expected and probably just because I’m female.

The last lockdown involved me doing all housework, cooking, dog walking, food shopping, home schooling and entertaining the step DC. I get all their birthday and Christmas presents. My DH went to work and that was pretty much it. I’ve been back to work PT and still end up dumped with 90% of house/family tasks.

However I get little to no say in what actually shapes their lives such as discipline, schooling, etc. DH overcompensates for the fact that they don’t see their egg donor mother (because she can’t be arsed with them now they aren’t cute toddlers anymore) by being a Disney dad who is unprepared to instil basic manners or have them do any chores around the house.

As a result I’ve told DH that he is doing school runs and cooking for the step DC (who actually wanted me to cook separate meals so they can eat at 4:30 instead of waiting until 6 when everyone is home) because I’m no longer being treated as a skivvy!

To the outside world though nobody would know that their biological parents are so ineffectual... the egg donor regularly posts (old) pictures on Facebook with the attached “I love my kids sooooo much” bollocks when she’s never paid a penny in child maintenance and hasn’t seen the kids in over a year despite living only 10 minutes away Hmm

But it’s fine obviously because they know I’ll pick up the slack once again...

Rant over...

YouKidsIsCrazy · 02/11/2020 17:13

Cressida, what you have there is a DH problem, not a step parenting problem

Bollss · 02/11/2020 17:39

@Iminaglasscaseofemotion

Well the solution is very simple. Dont enter into a relationship with someone who has children. I wouldn't.
I wouldn't either now if me and dp split up but hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it?
Bollss · 02/11/2020 17:41

@YouKidsIsCrazy

Stepparents don’t choose the unreasonable bits though. And they don’t have crystal balls either

Well if they went into it thinking it would be all easy plain sailing, they're frankly idiots. Like parenting, you get all the bits, good and bad, whether you like it or not.

It's all abut context. If you see your step kids every other weekend, you can be fun aunty. But if they live with you, or you have 50/50 care, you can't pretend you're not in a parenting role of some sort. You don't have to love them like your own, you don't have to love them at all, but if you don't love them at all, or don't like them, how do you think that feels to them?

Ah see the thing is I wanted to be "fun aunt" and ended up being full time step mum. The actual parenting bit was fine, tbh. It was the involvement from his actual mum that has driven me to near insanity. My issue is not with DSS. I don't dislike him, and I do love him, not the same as my own child but I obviously care for him.

I was always aware that I might have to parent if he moved in, it shocked me when he actually did but I dealt with it. What I did not prepare for was the harassment from his mum.

CressidaTheHeathen · 02/11/2020 18:08

@YouKidsIsCrazy

Cressida, what you have there is a DH problem, not a step parenting problem
Indeed, hence my rant at him Grin

Seems to have worked though, so far!

SandyY2K · 02/11/2020 19:44

I've said this before, but much of the looking after SC is what women do to impress the man in the early stages... to make him think they're fully on board with being a SM and theyreally like kids...then as time goes on, they grow resentful because they feel taken for granted. This is a DH/DP issue.

Do not start doing school runs....cooking meals...bathing, buying clothes...birthday presents for their friends etc....to impress, then when you get married or commit in any other way be surprised that it is expected of you by your OH.

Forget what society thinks you should do, because they don't live with you.

It's like a thread the other day where the OP admitted hiding the way she felt about the SC before marriage...because had age been honest about her jealousy her DP had regarding the relationship with his kids...no doubt he would have not married her.

Be upfront ..Make it clear you won't do xy or z as you aren't their parent ...ppl don't really do this though, because chances are the relationship won't progress any further.

I honestly don't know why a woman in her prime would get into a serious relationship with a man with kids...it can be a lot of headache... and I'm amazed ppl don't give it a thought.

When I read about the stress of Ex partners, dictating all sorts...I wonder how you cope with it, because I wouldn't have the tolerance to have anyone else impacting my life like this.

funinthesun19 · 02/11/2020 19:54

I honestly don't know why a woman in her prime would get into a serious relationship with a man with kids...it can be a lot of headache... and I'm amazed ppl don't give it a thought.

Yep. I was 20 so really had my whole life ahead of me and yet I picked a man with a child. If my daughter ever chooses a man with children, especially when young like I was, I’d actually be extremely worried for her. Funnily enough I wouldn’t be as worried if my sons picked a woman with children. Because the roles are different.

Bollss · 02/11/2020 20:17

I honestly don't know why a woman in her prime would get into a serious relationship with a man with kids...it can be a lot of headache... and I'm amazed ppl don't give it a thought

I gave it a lot of thought but in reality it was very different to how I imagined it would be. I never thought it would be easy but I definitely had no idea how bad it would actually be. I wouldn't advise anyone to do it.

Callardandbowser · 02/11/2020 21:34

I will only give my daughter 1 piece of advice ever and it will be to not get involved with a person who has children. Ever.

funinthesun19 · 02/11/2020 22:08

I will only give my daughter 1 piece of advice ever and it will be to not get involved with a person who has children. Ever.

Same 100%.