to tell people that you can go for walks in the countryside which is lovely

[chomalungma]

But the pubs will be shut so you can't get a lovely lunch whilst out

So it's going to be pack lunches again.

At least this time there won't be people complaining about people exercising in the Peak District like last time!

I think you'd be more at home in China @Ecosse

I live in the Lake District. Will be interesting to see how many call outs mountain rescue get this time around.

That said, I love a walk (all weathers) with a packed lunch either sitting in the boot of the car or finding a good tree somewhere. Exercise is a good thing!

If you’re going to encourage folk though, make sure they’re the type who pick up their litter, don’t poop on the footpath (at least find somewhere out of the way if you’re suddenly desperate) and if they’re amateur/inexperienced that a jaunt up Scafell is not advised. Especially not in November.

Also download the What Three Words app if going somewhere unfamiliar. It’s a GPS tracking app which narrows down your location to within a metre by using a unique three word identifier. If someone has an accident/ medical emergency its extremely helpful to the emergency services so that we know where you are.

"The basic position is that everyone should be staying at home at all times. Encouraging outdoor exercise is a distraction from that message- any time someone leaves their home, they are putting themselves at risk of catching, transmitting and becoming ill or dying from COVID.

People should not be stopping to sit on park benches or beaches.

We should all be grateful that we are allowed to leave our homes at all."

I managed not to catch covid while working on a covid ward for nearly three months. I'll take my chances with a daily walk outside, and might even stop to sit on a park bench.

Encouraging outdoor exercise is really important for peoples physical and mental health. It is awful that people weren't allowed to leave their homes for six weeks in Spain, and doesn't seem to have prevented them from having a second wave anyway.

No use why people think everyone from London will now descend on Devon or the Lake District for “a walk.” What for? I just go down the Thames. Putney to Richmond or beyond - stunning! Other way to the SouthBank and beyond... Door to door. No need for the ‘non-essential police’ thanks very much.

Also download the What Three Words app if going somewhere unfamilia

I love What three words. I occasionally send them to DS when I am out just to see his reaction.

Having read this thread, I no longer think Midsomer Murders far fetched.

"DC in Spain were expected to stay indoors for months (no exercise or leaving home allowed at all) in order to protect people from the virus."

The way Spain treated it's children was appalling.

Would the OP see a sign that says, 'you should not poke the crocodiles' and think, "hrumph, well it says should, not must so I will poke this crocodile all I want to!"

@Whammyyammy

Waiting for you to get flamed by all the Devon and Cornwall mner's.....

Would be no flaming from me, plenty of nice places to have a walk down here.

Mind you, the weather has been a little, shall we say breezy over the last couple of days, so it wouldn't have been a nice walk.

@EmmaGrundyForPM

There is no travel allowed except for certain circumstances. If you live in an urban area and dont drive then accesssg thi countryside is almost impossible

And so it all starts again, people making up their own rules. It's going to be fun seeing what shit people come out with over the next month.

Encouraging outdoor exercise is a distraction from that message- any time someone leaves their home, they are putting themselves at risk of catching, transmitting and becoming ill or dying from COVID.

The guano is strong in this one.

@Badabingbadabum

Would the OP see a sign that says, 'you should not poke the crocodiles' and think, "hrumph, well it says should, not must so I will poke this crocodile all I want to!"

If I were to die or injured from that, it would be my own fault. However if I were injured, the police couldn't prosecute me because it wasn't against the law.

If there were guidelines that the zoo should put up a fence around the crocodile enclosure but it wasn't in law, then the zoo couldn't be prosecuted under leglisation.

They'd get bad PR though.

I think there is a reason they've said shouldn't instead of mustn't.
To me, it means if you can reasonably avoid it, don't do it.
I have the good fortune of living near a lot of beautiful walks. I therefore won't need to travel to exercise so won't.
If I lived in a more built up area where my exercise would be the same grey streets, once a week or so I would be reasonable to travel to a nicer location for a walk, and it wouldn't be breaking any legislation or rules to do so.

In other words its to allow people to take account of different circumstances, locations, toll on mental health etc.

@zeb1 exactly! Beautiful green and leafy walks too with rich history and energy. The Lake District is wildly overhyped anyway. I found it a bit soulless but was comparing to other watery regions I knew well. Was surprised that the 'lake' everybody covets was right infront of me! Could not believe that was it, with a few craggy hills. Just doesn't really compare to other places imho.

[quote WouldBeGood]@MoodieMare sadly I’ve had some experience and they are evil fuckers 😂😂[/quote]
Oh dear, I have a few injuries myself, and at times questioned my sanity in all honesty 😂 still only one in our family gets a pedicure every 8 weeks is her and has a better wardrobe than me too!
Wouldn't swap it for the world though, she's not evil, but 'opinionated' - the kids Shetland a few years ago though, that bugger had horns and 666 printed on his head! 😂

Anyway, as for the 'rules' I am by nature a rule follower, I do intend to follow the rules again this time, though doing so doesn't affect me as it may do others. And by rules I mean the ones from the UK government, not French or Spanish ones, or indeed fictional ones.
I'm in healthcare, though not frontline, and I'm careful because the people I work with are vulnerable and they depend on me doing that to not expose them to more risk than necessary. And I'd quite like to be able to access treatment, and for there to be the capacity for me to do that should I need it.

I don’t get the hype about the Lake District either, CloudMoon. For a start, it has its own micro-climate - rain, drizzle, rain, fog. All the grey stone buildings. I’m surprised anyone lasts more than 24 hours.

@PhilCornwall1 what rules do you think I'm making up?

@chomalungma

Found any other loopholes

It's not a loophole.
It's about people knowing their rights,

It may be within the letter of the law but it really is not in the spirit of it, is it?

It is in the spirit of the law. You are allowed to go on a short drive and go and exercise. It's restrictive enough without making shit up.

It may be within the letter of the law but it really is not in the spirit of it, is it?

The relevant law doesn't even exist yet, so yarning on about the spirit of it is even dafter than it usually is. Don't be so ridiculous.

It’s a GPS tracking app which narrows down your location to within a metre by using a unique three word identifier. If someone has an accident/ medical emergency its extremely helpful to the emergency services so that we know where you are. Which emergency services? I thought cave/mountain rescue were quite capable of working on the GPS? Are police etc using What three words? If they ask me for a postcode, can I give the the three words instead?

@Daydreamsinglorioustechnicolor

Can't believe we're here again. Its like fucking groundhog day.

Yup.

I hope as many as people really enjoy driving somewhere lovely and going for a walk, hopefully meeting a friend as well. What a wholesome, healthy, sensible thing to do.

I do intend to follow the rules again this time, though doing so doesn't affect me as it may do others. And by rules I mean the ones from the UK government, not French or Spanish ones, or indeed fictional ones.

Exactly this

Which emergency services? I thought cave/mountain rescue were quite capable of working on the GPS

GPS co-ordinates are trickier to tell someone compared to 3 words.