OH thinks no kids are left hungry?!!

[ihate2020]

I've joined the cook4kids over the half term in our area.

Oh is pissed of about it and thinks the parents that collect the lunch boxes I've made up are just out to get a freebie and I should spend the money on our own kids

AIBU to say he is a delunsional idiot?

@dugee If the parents are choosing to rent in an extortionate area - when there are cheaper places for them to live in - whilst letting their children go hungry, then it is the parents who have made the choice to let their children go hungry.

Yes. And yet, children should not go hungry under any circumstances. We can still support children who have shitty parents.

Genuine question - if there are so many hungry children ( and possibly adults) then why is there a childhood and general obesity epidemic

Obesity is often just another form of malnutrition.

@Dugee , you can't just walk out of a job, especially a NMW one, move around the country on the off chance of finding a private rental (which is only ever yours subject to a two month notice period - admittedly 6 months atm), and find another job, schools, childcare, moving expenses, deposits...

You can't claim benefits if you just walk out of a job.

How do you move? How and why would you? Given you can't even afford to eat properly.

There isn't a magic housing fairy.

Yes. And yet, children should not go hungry under any circumstances. We can still support children who have shitty parents.

I agree. Children should all receive the basics of food, warmth, shelter, fun, education, healthcare because their parents irresponsible behaviour is not their fault, this shouldn't even be up for debate. What should be up for debate us how do we get the food, warmth, shelter, fun, education, healthcare to the children of shitty parents? Giving money to shitty parents doesn't seem to be helping.

@Dugee

Your reply is an irrelevance, children should not go hungry under any circumstances.

If the parents are choosing to rent in an extortionate area - when there are cheaper places for them to live in - whilst letting their children go hungry, then it is the parents who have made the choice to let their children go hungry.

Who pays for them to move? Who does the nmw jobs in the expensive areas? What about support networks, are 'poor' people just expected to leave them behind? (And yes I know people do move across the country but just because some can doesnt mean all can).

And surely if we all move to the cheap areas the resulting demand for the nmw jobs and cheap houses will lead to unemployment and push the housing prices up? Then the original expensive areas will become cheap and we'll all be moving back?

Most of them are not ‘shitty’.

@rainyoutside

Most of them are not ‘shitty’.

Shameful attitude from Dugdee

@rainyoutside @PigletJohn

Without defending Dugee, it was me who used the word "shitty" in relation to parents who don't prioritise their kids. However, obviously prioritising your kids doesn't mean trekking all around the country in hope of low rent prices.

Sorry, just wanted to clarify in case there's any confusion to what I meant.

@PigletJohn

Not all parents are angels, fighting the brave fight to care for their children at any cost. Some children are hungry because their parents aren't prioritising their needs. I suggest you look at some of the posts from teachers and social workers who actual have to deal with this.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/554276/signatures/new

Sorry, too late for that one

@PigletJohn I've just signed it!

@PigletJohn

I agree. Children should all receive the basics of food, warmth, shelter, fun, education, healthcare because their parents irresponsible behaviour is not their fault, this shouldn't even be up for debate. What should be up for debate us how do we get the food, warmth, shelter, fun, education, healthcare to the children of shitty parents? Giving money to shitty parents doesn't seem to be helping.

This is my comment from earlier. The two words you picked out of the whole paragraph were "shitty parents" just to suit your own narrative.

Dugee

And voting against meals will definitely not help anyone.

Vouchers/meals won't help the children of "shitty parents". I dont think anything will.
But they are helping the children of parents who are genuinely down on their luck. Stopping them because of a few shitty parents is punishing the genuine ones. And that's not fair.

@PigletJohn

I haven't mentioned voting against meals.

Are you drinking tonight per chance?

It isn't usual for low income parents to just not feed their kids.
If kids arent getting fed its either neglect (as PP have said), some short term calamity (lost job, benefits sanction etc) or an immigration problem that prevents the family claiming benefits.
It isn't accurate or fair to make out that deprived areas are full to the brim of starving weans.
Some of the comments I've seen from well meaning people on other threads have been meladramatic and patronising.
It is common to skip meals in order to feed kids.
It is common to buy food instead of heating.
It is common to buy less healthy food
It is common to miss payments for something else in order to buy food.
There are plenty of people out there who are feeding their kids but are skint enough that it would come as a relief to have a lunch provided. It would be one less thing to worry about.
My kids usually go to a free holiday club that provides entertainment, activities and a lunch.
I'd imagine only one or two kids are in such dire straights that they wouldn't otherwise be fed.
But lots of kids are from families that rely on the service to make ends meet.

What if there was an option for the parent to tick a box to prioritise their child/children's school meal being provided vs having a slightly higher benefit amount?

I note the op has only commented once. Was that a hit and drop so the daily fail can use your comments to prove-ikn-whatever. For what ever reason children should never be allowed to go hungry! So some arsehole will scam a scheme who cares? If you feed one vulnerable child out of 10 it would still be justified to have a scheme. That one child, will still know someone cared enough to fill an empty belly.

Frankly I'm still reeling from @Happyhippy99's disgusting comment

If the parents are choosing to rent in an extortionate area - when there are cheaper places for them to live in - whilst letting their children go hungry, then it is the parents who have made the choice to let their children go hungry.
It’s called a poverty trap for a reason. But do please continue to justify children going hungry. I’m fascinated.

@CandyLeBonBon I reported her post, hopefully MN are on the ball about it.

Same @feministfemme

Where do you stop? How do you ensure the parents prioritise their children's needs? How do we ensure that children are looked after properly? Do we send social services? How do we get people out of poverty?
Very difficult situation.

@CandyLeBonBon It's deleted now, woohoo!