Christmas - following the rules or not?

[BIWitched]

From what we know right now (and accepting that things may change in the next few weeks) if you're in tier 2 or 3 re you going to obey the rules about not mixing households indoors?

YANBU - I will be ignoring the rules
YABU - it's my civic duty to obey the rules

So there’s good Covid and bad Covid then?? If you catch it going to college or doing a shop for a relative then pass it on to someone who gets ill or dies then that’s ok but catch it doing ‘normal teenage things’ and pass it on then you have to live with the guilt? If I was your friends sons mother I’d be disgusted with you for a) using my real life trauma as a horror story to ‘win’ some random thread and b) Insinuating my son was to blame. Ffs if this is even real, you’re no friend of theirs.

Yes people were ‘expected’ to follow all the rules for Eid and the same is ‘expected’ for Christmas, some will, some won’t, some did and some didn’t.

Not following rules now and won't at Christmas!

I'm in a T3 area and in a support bubble with my parents. Last week my brother's wife asked him for a divorce, he's totally devastated, are we really supposed to leave him to have Christmas alone so that we can follow the rules?

Those of you saying it's black and white need to think again.

@janeyloves

Not following rules now and won't at Christmas!

And this is why we are in tier 3 because of people like you

We all need to be sensible for the greater good.

My parents plan to isolate for two weeks, then visit & stay with me over Christmas. They will isolate for two weeks on return home. I think that's a reasonable approach in terms of reducing the risk.

Our christmas plans were cancelled last year because DD had been seriously ill in hospital. I'm not skipping this years for something which so far appears to have a mortality rate comparable to seasonal flu.

No. Its probably going to be fil's last Christmas as he has terminal cancer he has decided he's not locking himself away and will be seeing his grandchildren. Other than that and buying a paper every morning he doesn't really do much. He will be coming with bil who lives with him.
My mum is on her own and is invited but isn't sure yet, she's going to see how things are.

I think we will follow the rules. We bought our house 3 years ago and havent actually spent a Christmas here and we now have 2 year old DS and newborn DD so it will be lovely.

If we are put in tier 2 or 3 we will continue to see the Inlaws indoors at their house. They want to continue to see their grandchildren and I have no issue with it.

@maddy68

No. , I'm a teacher, I am reaching 180 different students every single day in a crowded classroom , some of which have already tested positive and steps been taken following that. But to think I can't see my nephew's , but I can teach them is crazy.

So it'll be Christmas as normal at my house.

I'd say that's unbelievable but yesterday I heard of a retired teacher with an ecv husband who's planning to host her daughter (a teacher) sil and granddaughter indoors on Christmas day in a tier 3 area. I think that's appallingly irresponsible.

@sadblackcat

My friends teenage son didnt obey the rules. Went out with his mates did the usual teenage things. Caught Covid and was fairly ill, passed it on to his his dad who is now fighting for his life on a ventilator in ICU. He has to live with the guilt. Christmas is one day for Gods sake............death is for ever.

I remember you posting this before. I'm sorry to hear he's still so ill.

@janeyloves

Not following rules now and won't at Christmas!

Not big and not clever. Just antisocial and utterly irresponsible.

My DH and I will have my 3 DGC as we are their childcare bubble. For those that think that doesn't apply to Christmas, their parents will be working.

@clareken260

My DH and I will have my 3 DGC as we are their childcare bubble. For those that think that doesn't apply to Christmas, their parents will be working.

Exactly. That's essential care. It's not facilitating socialising and so many are doing, I'm afraid with reference to the retired teacher I mentioned above it's altered the way I think about her

Aaah the "I'm asking an innocent question so I can rip anyone who disagrees with what I think to shreds" technique.

With the utter contempt the government have shown for the rules, with the total disregard for mental health and the mental health of our children - they've lost my compliance. I'm not planning on going out in a miniskirt licking lamp-posts or whatever else - but I am definitely going to be spending Christmas with my parents - whatever bloody tier they've put us in or whatever number they've invented by then.

Kind of. I'm using my parental instincts to decide what is right for my family.

So we're tier 1, live rurally in an area of low infection. We'll meet up with family on Christmas Day because that would be 7 of us, from two households.

Usually, we attend lots of big social gatherings with friends. Won't be doing any of that this year and instead, thinking of booking a cottage somewhere and getting away for a few days instead.

@Ginfordinner
I'm not in Tier 3 and frankly I don't care what you think.
If you'd like educate yourself Go listen to Mike Yeadon.

@ilovesooty
I'm not antisocial, that's why I'll be spending Christmas with those I love. I'm not interested in your fear mongering.

[quote janeyloves]@Ginfordinner
I'm not in Tier 3 and frankly I don't care what you think.
If you'd like educate yourself Go listen to Mike Yeadon.[/quote]
And frankly you don't care what anyone thinks.

Selfish

@Ginfordinner you do you and stop hurling insults. If you want to spend the rest of your life hiding from a virus go ahead, I'm not going to do it.

Depends what the rules are. My DC will be coming home for Christmas but we are likely to just have Christmas the 3 of us. We are usually 16 on Christmas Day and we will miss it.

AdoptAdaptImprove

Are you for real, or is this a joke, what difference chidcare/Christmas. Or are you the Grinch?

Angeldust747

We are in a childcare bubble with my in laws so will be spending Christmas with them, all within the rules. It will be a lot smaller than normal but at least we won't be completely alone. If it weren't for the bubble then I think we would end up breaking the rules
AdoptAdaptImprove
Surely being in a childcare bubble only means that your in-laws are able to look after your children while you work? What does that have to do with you all spending Christmas together? Or have you just decided that it makes you a special case?pt

[quote janeyloves]@Ginfordinner you do you and stop hurling insults. If you want to spend the rest of your life hiding from a virus go ahead, I'm not going to do it. [/quote]
You do you. The refuge of those who have no concept of wider responsibility.

@amispeakingenglish

AdoptAdaptImprove

Are you for real, or is this a joke, what difference chidcare/Christmas. Or are you the Grinch?

Angeldust747

We are in a childcare bubble with my in laws so will be spending Christmas with them, all within the rules. It will be a lot smaller than normal but at least we won't be completely alone. If it weren't for the bubble then I think we would end up breaking the rules
AdoptAdaptImprove
Surely being in a childcare bubble only means that your in-laws are able to look after your children while you work? What does that have to do with you all spending Christmas together? Or have you just decided that it makes you a special case?pt

Childcare bubbles are for essential purposes not to enable family socialising.

I will be seeing my Dad, even if it means Christmas is a walk and a picnic for lunch. We have good outdoor gear; it won’t be a problem!