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To consider reporting this child

173 replies

Floradoras · 18/10/2020 13:51

There's a boy who live on the next street. 10-13sh In age. When you walk past him he always lies. Follows you telling stories. Which is fine no issues. You just have to keep walking away.

Last year he told me my address and that he knew I had a skip. I had never seen him outside my house when I've been outside so be must have been watching me from the corner one day. But again no problem shrugged it off.

Two months ago I'm walking with my toddler and 4 year old and my friend and her son. He follows us up the road pointing a gun. He says don't worry it's not real and opens it and starts pointing at some orange plastic things or possibly foam inside. I felt like saying to him that our kids are too young to have pretend guns pointing at them and perhaps he shouldn't be approaching people with it. But I didn't. We managed to keep walking away from him. Although he followed us.

This last two weeks my neighbours have had their garage worked on. So they had stuff sat in their front garden including two bikes. He asked them if he could have them. They told him no. Last weekend I was ironing and saw out my bedroom window him and his friend were in their garden. The neighbours were out. He was picking up the bricks from the pile. Bashing on the door. Climbing up the door to peak in the top window on the door. Banging on the windows and shouting open up for godsake. Then he told his friend they never fucking answer. He's been back three times this week bashing and shouting.

My parents have been around this morning. I was helping my dad put stuff in the car. He was circling the bottom of my drive near the road on his bike. The way he was looking at My dad's head (nearly 70) made me feel really uneasy. I felt like he was considering punching him or something. He had a really nasty look and was riding about a foot to my dad's back. I kept watching him and then he went onto my neighbours new slabs that I know are not safe yet. I said should you be riding your bike on their new drive. He said to me I just want to know if I can have their bikes. I did a nod and said bye to my parents. Went back inside. I watched him punching their door. Shouting through their letterbox. Ringing the bell and knocking on the windows.

I messaged my neighbour to check they are ok and aware. She said they are aware and ignoring him because they don't have the energy for him.she informed me he has been in the garage too!!

I just don't know whether to report him or just keep out of it.

Would this concern you? I know to an extent he is just being a mischievous child. He may have something such as autism and you just never know why someone acts how they do. I'm just genuinely worried he's going to start becoming intimidating and more consistent with harrassing people.

If you do report these things. Who do you go to? Or is this literally nothing in your eyes? He makes me feel very uneasy and like he is capable of being quite nasty based on his persistent approach and swearing and having no respect for adults.

OP posts:
IMNOTSHOUTING · 19/10/2020 13:44

@Floradoras

OP I would just ignore the posters who are giving you grief. It happens on MN people just argue the toss for the sake of it.

Swearing through letterboxes is clearly not OK. A young teen knows not to ride his bike on someone else's partially completed driveway - this is not OK.

It might well be he has a learning difficulty or rubbish parents or both but if that's the case your report could hopefully trigger some support.

DioneTheDiabolist · 19/10/2020 13:48

Have I been horrible about this young lad?

Having read all your posts OP, yes, I think you have been horrible about this child.

Jj2431 · 19/10/2020 14:05

Anyone that slates the way the OP has spoken about the child, in my opinion, is probably the type of parent themselves that this boy has. The ' he can be someone else's problem now' types. Op was as polite as she could be about him in this thread. I would have gone full force as the little toerag

SwimbleCold · 19/10/2020 14:09

Anyone that slates the way the OP has spoken about the child, in my opinion, is probably the type of parent themselves that this boy has

What an inane opinion.

DolphinsAndNemesis · 19/10/2020 14:09

@DioneTheDiabolist

Have I been horrible about this young lad?

Having read all your posts OP, yes, I think you have been horrible about this child.

I agree.
fantasmasgoria1 · 19/10/2020 14:18

I would call social services because he doesn't appear from what you have said to have proper social skills. There could be all manner of reasons why he is behaving in this manner. He may want attention, I don't really know! So many different things to consider. The next time he does anything menacing and it is menacing behaviour call the police. He may not think he's doing anything wrong but he is. Also he could hurt himself climbing on things he shouldn't!

IMNOTSHOUTING · 19/10/2020 14:24

@DioneTheDiabolist

Have I been horrible about this young lad?

Having read all your posts OP, yes, I think you have been horrible about this child.

Have I missed something where was she horrible?
SwimbleCold · 19/10/2020 14:26

clearly the whole thread?

AnneOfQueenSables · 19/10/2020 14:27

You're trying to use how you perceive your neighbour's experience to try to justify your attitude. Perhaps you could accept that how your neighbour interacts with this DC is none of your business. This thread is deeply unpleasant and your faux veneer of concern can't disguise it. I'm always glad that people in RL are nothing like this.

IMNOTSHOUTING · 19/10/2020 14:29

@SwimbleCold

That's just completely daft. The boy does comes across as a problem in this thread because his behaviour is problematic. Swearing for prolonged periods of time through a letter box. Riding a bike over a partially built drive is a problem, breaking into someone's garage is a problem. It may not be this boy's fault that his behaviour is so bad but his behaviour is bad and it's absolutely right that it should be reported. For the safety of the boy as well as the sanity of his neighbours.

SwimbleCold · 19/10/2020 14:30

Yeah, cos its not as if OP is clearly overstating and adding in pure bullshit? She thinks she can read his evil thoughts, for a start.....

IMNOTSHOUTING · 19/10/2020 14:35

@SwimbleCold

Yeah, cos its not as if OP is clearly overstating and adding in pure bullshit? She thinks she can read his evil thoughts, for a start.....
So you're one of OP's neighbours and know more about the situation than the rest of us? Or are you just dismissing her concerns because you're just one of those people on MN who feel the need to insult the OP for some strange reason of your own. I'm missing where OP claimed to read his thoughts. Most people can tell if someone's body language is threatening or intimidating. Short of filming the boy and posting the video we can't tell if OP's reading of his body language is accurate or not. As with any thread the entire thing could be made up but there is absolute no reason to assume that's the case. Your weird anger towards the OP comes across as incredibly defensive.
Hamsandwich2 · 19/10/2020 14:37

The boy sounds to have special needs, I would report to His school or social services. He wants attention and doesn’t know how to get it. Ignoring him is only making him try to get attention more and in increasingly negative ways. Try being kind and saying hello to him, having a few minute conversation instead of ignoring him while walking away. 🤦🏼‍♀️ He’s trying to engage with you.

The gun sounds like a nerf gun, give it a year and yours will be desperate for them.

It sounds like he didn’t understand with the bikes, not that his behaviour was ok though. Someone needs to discuss his behaviour with him who can help him to understand the right decision.

justilou1 · 19/10/2020 14:38

He sounds deliberately menacing to me. He’s also going to get a lot bigger very soon. I would call police and SS.

SwimbleCold · 19/10/2020 14:38

Your weird anger towards the OP comes across as incredibly defensive
Youve clearly spent far too long on MN, and like OP, are reading things that aren't there. Dramatic much? Hmm

IMNOTSHOUTING · 19/10/2020 14:43

@SwimbleCold

Your weird anger towards the OP comes across as incredibly defensive Youve clearly spent far too long on MN, and like OP, are reading things that aren't there. Dramatic much? Hmm
I'm not being dramatic. I'm just reading a thread where someone describes some clearly worrying behaviour and you react by saying that OP is horrible and also clearly lying. Your attitude to her is aggressive. That isn't dramatic. It comes across as angry and defensive.
DioneTheDiabolist · 19/10/2020 15:54

There is real hostility in the OP's posts. The kid is annoying, he's not a violent criminal. Speak to his parents instead of demonising him and reporting him to the authorities for annoying you OP.

Floradoras · 19/10/2020 17:07

Jeez. I'm sure you would love him to be hammering on your door.

I'm a mother in my 30s. Do you really think I am just bored and picking on a child? I have children myself. I have Nieces and nephews. My friends have children.i am in the thick of parenting and I am well aware of different ages and types of children. Not an expert mind but perfectly able to sense when someone is potentially a risk or threat.

I didn't say he was evil. I said he was glaring at me elderly dad's head and was biking too close to him with an angry look on his face. Before proceeding to ride his bike on a neighbours driveway that's half complete. Before harrassing them and swearing through the letterbox.

I look out for my neighbors because I know they struggle massively with their health and clearly don't know how to handle him. They perhaps don't want to come outside when he's shouting foul language at them incase he proceeds to be abusive. But yes he's just an innocent boy playing out and I'm a horrible women.

OP posts:
DioneTheDiabolist · 19/10/2020 17:35

If he was knocking my door or annoying me in any way I'd speak to his parents.🤷‍♀️

OhCaptain · 19/10/2020 17:44

@Floradoras you’ve fallen foul of a particular type of poster. There are a few of them about and honestly there’s no point in you engaging.

It’s more important to them to be right than reasonable.

They seek out offence with a fine tooth comb and attempt to bash you with it.

I’d ignore it if I was you.

Sh05 · 19/10/2020 18:26

Op as you don't know which school he attends the next best step is to contact the non emergency police line.
Some yrs back when my older three were in primary we had a lad come round on the weekends who would insist on taking turns on my son's bike, he would take off with the bike, come back with large branches and pretend fight with my kids, eldest of whom was 9.
We knew he was in yr 6 at my children's primary so when he turned up with a knife one evening I approached the headteacher who thanked me for letting her know and said he was already under the care of social services.
That's all she said and reassured me the matter would be dealt with.
We never saw him again.
Even if I had known where he lived I can honestly say I wouldn't have wanted to approach his parents as I didn't know how they would React.

Storyoftonight · 19/10/2020 19:26

@Floradoras

Jeez. I'm sure you would love him to be hammering on your door.

I'm a mother in my 30s. Do you really think I am just bored and picking on a child? I have children myself. I have Nieces and nephews. My friends have children.i am in the thick of parenting and I am well aware of different ages and types of children. Not an expert mind but perfectly able to sense when someone is potentially a risk or threat.

I didn't say he was evil. I said he was glaring at me elderly dad's head and was biking too close to him with an angry look on his face. Before proceeding to ride his bike on a neighbours driveway that's half complete. Before harrassing them and swearing through the letterbox.

I look out for my neighbors because I know they struggle massively with their health and clearly don't know how to handle him. They perhaps don't want to come outside when he's shouting foul language at them incase he proceeds to be abusive. But yes he's just an innocent boy playing out and I'm a horrible women.

You also said he looked at a baby like it was more than just a baby. Big accusation, OP, to be fair. You've implied he is capable of hurting elderly people and babies.
Mymycherrypie · 19/10/2020 20:26

My DP actually did have a punch thrown at his head by a teenager riding past on his bike. We were stood at a bus stop. The boy missed and rode straight in to a bin, which he fell in to and came out stinking and crying (unhurt, but embarrassed). His friend who didn’t throw the punch and seemed like an alright kid gave me his phone to call the rat bags mum and I dutifully told her where to pick him up, and exactly how he had hurt himself whilst trying to assault my partner. She barely gave two shits. Then we laughed at him and got on our bus. And you know what, I’d do exactly the same again.

So I know the look you mean about riding too close to someone on the bike. We’ve had a few of them here.

Yeahnahmum · 19/10/2020 22:16

You should have filmed him op. And go to the police . He is not a 5 yo... he is on the verge of being a teenager. And if nobody does anything now: imagine how he would be in a few years time 😣

Griselda1 · 19/10/2020 22:17

I'd be careful of the description you gave regarding your father's head. It's entirely conjecture on your behalf, have you tried speaking to the child or finding out anything about him. I feel really sorry for him and it sounds like he may need to try and find things to sell or barter.

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