When did Think become Fink.

[WokenUpEarly]

Genuine question, taking out any speech issues, when did Think become Fink?
Throw become Frow?
Etc

@YellowandGreenToBeSeen

It happened around the same time ‘take’ became ‘bring’. This misuse makes me murderous.

My Irish friends all use 'bring' instead of 'take'. ('Will I bring ye shopping on T'ursday?'). I'm not sure if they use take instead of bring... must pay more attention. I find it quirky with an Irish accent but annoying with an English one

I have grown up relatives raised in London who say fink even though their parents use RP. Even worse when it's written down... and I saw 'av' for have in a Facebook group today

Is it only in Ireland where you get people trying to say 'and all' but shortening it to 'an all' but actually writing 'anal'? Drives me scatty.

@MountainDweller my parents would say bring instead of take in that context. I actually am sitting here now wondering if I ever say it to mine too. When I lived abroad in Australia I got the piss taken out of me for saying 'I am after being to the cinema/shop/toilet' etc.

@WokenUpEarly

Yes , finally, 90'odd messages in and you revert to "I'm an idiot , I'm regional, I can teach my kids to put letters together. It's because of my region. Really 🤣🤣. I'm from the soufff.. educate yourselves . That means I can't read. It's my accent. Oh, my culture. . Idiots xx

Idiots is a bit strong!

Dh is a South londoner and can't say th at all. Although, our dc are adults now and lived in Herts all their lives but Dd can't say "th ' either but DS can.

I’m not sure what you do t understand about this. It’s an accent? Do you ridicule other accents? I can say ‘th’ but I don’t as it’d sound really weird to me and I’d feel like that particular word stood out as that’s just not the way we speak. It probably wouldn’t actually stand out, but just feels really unnatural to me.
As someone else said, why aren’t other accents ridiculed in this way? For example, northern or Irish?

It’s like how Germans can’t say W

@bellinisurge

Not sure what region you are referring to. Fucking ignorance is pretty universal

As you have just demonstrated so beautifully.

I think it can be a type of speech impediment. A high profile politician here in Australia speaks that way, free instead of three etc. I have noticed it also related to a lower socioeconomic background in many instances here. Similar to people who pronounce a double t sound as d, as in button as buddon.

I see a lot more of that particular accent now on television, even here in Canada, that might be why it has become more common. Growing up I rarely heard it.

@Nochangeplease

I’m not sure what you do t understand about this. It’s an accent? Do you ridicule other accents? I can say ‘th’ but I don’t as it’d sound really weird to me and I’d feel like that particular word stood out as that’s just not the way we speak. It probably wouldn’t actually stand out, but just feels really unnatural to me. As someone else said, why aren’t other accents ridiculed in this way? For example, northern or Irish?

OP is working in Stirling, in central Scotland. It’s not at all common in a regional accent up here.

Reading between the lines, this isn’t that she’s working with a load of people who have moved up from London, but other local people who have recently picked this up as an affectation.

I’m in Scotland. My brother says fink, I say think. I have 2 daughters. The oldest says fink the youngest says think. I don’t understand it. Nobody else in the family does it apart from them.

We very much like our 'th' to be pronounced 'th' in NI!

Slightly off topic, but DS1 used to get mixed up when saying Faith, the name of a friend in his class. He called her 'Thaith' for some reason, so 'th' instead of 'f', rather than the other way round!! He was only five though. I suppose, by OP's reckoning, she'd be 'Faif'.

When Cockneys were invented. London is the only place where I’ve heard people talk like that, though some Scousers say ‘rink’.

‘Tink’, even. Stupid phone.

When did gotten become a thing? I’ve just read a post about Covid restrictions and someone posted that “it’s only gotten worse” I’m not claiming that I’m perfect with my grammar, but that just sounds so wrong?

@Dreamscomingtrue gotten is commonly used in Scots.

Op I live near Glasgow and I haven't noticed this yet in adults. Obviously small children do it sometimes but tend to grow out of it.

And “I should of” instead of “I should have” is becoming more frequent?

Is that a regional thing?

🤣

Is my very very least favourite emoji. It's the emoji version of multiple exclamation marks. The sign of a disturbed psyche. And a total lack of a sense of humour. The laugh track of emojis if you will.

@Dreamscomingtrue

When did gotten become a thing? I’ve just read a post about Covid restrictions and someone posted that “it’s only gotten worse” I’m not claiming that I’m perfect with my grammar, but that just sounds so wrong?

Isn’t gotten an Americanism?

Of for have annoys the hell out of me because it makes no sense. Like ‘had of’.

And what's with the x after every post?

What's the purpose?

Do you go to the pub and after everything you say blow kisses?

X x x x xx. X x x x x x.

@MrsTerryPratchett

🤣

Is my very very least favourite emoji. It's the emoji version of multiple exclamation marks. The sign of a disturbed psyche. And a total lack of a sense of humour. The laugh track of emojis if you will.

Most of the people I’ve seen use it habitually are obnoxious twats. The ‘lol bantz’ lad types on Twitter.

The ‘lol bantz’ lad types on Twitter.

Ironically that did, in fact, make me laugh out loud.

[quote OwlBeThere]@Arofan the sound in the or that is not the same as think or thought. But there are people who th-front on those words too. They’ll say Ve or vat.

Interestingly there doesn’t seem to be the same stigma attached to the ‘Irish’ version which makes the-de, and think-tink. No one says that ‘laziness’.[/quote]
Irish people pronouncing ‘th’ as ‘t’ is limited to a few working-class versions of regional speech, and I can assure you it was stigmatised in my childhood — my primary school in a very WC area had compulsory weekly elocution lessons, of which I still remember the ‘tongue drills’ aimed at getting us to pronounce our ths.

Isn’t gotten an Americanism?