To be really angry that seeing my parents is illegal?

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My area is very likely to be locked down next week. I am so furious that it’s going to be against the law for me to see my parents, and my children to see their grandparents. We did lockdown properly last time, it was absolutely awful. My mental health plummeted and I don’t think I can do it again. I rely on support from family and friends.

Just feeling so incredibly angry about it all tonight. Poor people in Leicester have lived like this for 100 days so far with no end in site.

I’m so fed up and I know I’m going to be told to just get on it it. But I just need a space to vent.

I know it’s hard but I always find these posts hard. I don’t have any family nearby and don’t have any support with kids / childcare. I had a newborn in lockdown and two older children. We see family a few times a year a rely on FaceTime.

It’s not anyone’s fault that some people have support and some people do but I struggle to be sympathetic when this is my daily life. Lockdown wasn’t too different for me which probably made it a lot easier.

Doesn’t invalid OP emotions but I hope people in this situation realise how lucky they are to have that support in the first place

[quote WFHWF]@WombatChocolate thank goodness I am not the only one that sees it like you do. I am in a lockdown area and have followed the rules the whole time. It is not pleasant, it is not easy and no one wants this but when will people realise that this these measures are there to protect them and their loved ones? By visiting people out with your household that are capable of looking after themselves, you are actively putting them (and you) in danger and exacerbating the problem.[/quote]
What it is, is these people think Covid only happens to Other People. Be it serious illness, death, or disabling Long Covid.

They insist the deaths are only The Expendables 'a small amount of people' (already at least 42,000...) and refuse to understand that there would be many more if Covid ran unchecked through the population. They don't see to have the ability to understand that many people, younger ones included, didn't die because of accessing a hospital bed. Something no-one would get for any illness if beds filled up and staff were off ill.

Long Covid is rare, they chant...
Nevermind that the NHS is concerned enough to be setting up Long Covid treatment clinics.

They're incapable of comprehending the knock-on effects on the economy and wider society. It goes right above their heads.

I live in Ayrshire and suddenly found myself in the central belt.

For the love of god stop complying with this lockdown and continue seeing your family.

Who will you rail against if your loved ones get sick, though?

What if they (far more likely) get sick with something other than covid and have wasted their remaining years apart from their loved ones? This has happened to thousands of people already this year and there will be many more because there is no end in sight. I’ll be railing as hard as I can against the selfish “all that matters is covid” brigade if that happens to my family.

@SheepandCow

Oh how awful of the nasty government to try to ensure lots of people are able to see their parents or vulnerable child alive - rather than in a grave. How dare they try to save people's lives and contain a contagious virus.

Nasty mean government trying to save the long-term economy, lives, and prevent thousands of working age people becoming disabled with Long Covid.

Dreadful meanies!

Why did they insist universities go back then, with predictable results?

Why did they think cramming people into restaurants for half price food for a month was a good plan?

Why were we told to get back to the office on crowded public transport mere days before tighter restrictions were announced?

Good old government, they absolutely have our best interests at heart!

@SheepandCow it’s highly unlikely to cause death.

Life is about more than avoiding death.

I’ve paid tax throughout my life to fund the NHS. I don’t need to feel grateful they’ll treat me if I get ill.

I am not a Covid denier. I take sensible precautions and obey the rules in general. But denying people contact with their families for lengthy periods is inhumane.

of course its shit but theyre doing ti so kids can go to school and people work without that we'll have even more problems

It’s seeming more and more like Covid is the new Brexit with the country split 50/50 between those who feel a duty to comply and those that don’t want their own liberties restricted.

Covid spreads by contact this is the only way to try to curb it.

I think its a battle we can't win lockdown then back in the same position a few months later. Honestly think herd immunity is the only way . Sadly will cost many lives but we have no cure thats the harsh fact.

Who will you rail against if your loved ones get sick, though?

Nobody. I will accept that it is a virus, and sometimes people die of viruses. In my family, they also die of cancer, accident, heart attack, stroke and suicide. My loved ones want to see each other (and me), despite the risk of covid. That is their choice and I refuse to deny them that.

By visiting people out with your household that are capable of looking after themselves, you are actively putting them (and you) in danger and exacerbating the problem

Under new restrictions from next week, those in Tier 3 areas won't be allowed to see anyone outside their household in any setting. No informal childcare, no support bubbles. People in Tier 3 areas aren't talking about going to see friends or relatives who can look after themselves, they're worried about not being able to support vulnerable loved ones or receive the help they need themselves. That's the reality here.

No country has eliminated this virus by lockdown it just delays and controls the spread

Eliminated in the Isle of Man and New Zealand.

Those of you breaking the rules are spreading the virus - thus keeping others in lockdown. You’re choosing to carry on regardless and put others at risk. Don’t blame the government. Look in the mirror.

Outside the UK the British government is seen as quite reckless and slow at reacting and locking down. Many countries have gone a lot further to protect their population than the UK and then of course there the Trump.

Fair enough. Yes you're right @PennyDreadful
I'm very tired today. Must've been half asleep and dreamt we were in Australia or New Zealand.

To be fair to people, our approach has been so incoherent and incompetent, I can almost understand people's reticence over half hearted attempts at containment. We really need to sort out stricter, but in the end (because it's done properly) shorter restrictions.

Still, we should try to comply with what we've got - because wouldn't it be better to get it all over with? If enough people adhered to the rules, perhaps we'd have no need for further restrictions. Over optimistic perhaps but you never know. Every little helps, as Tesco says.

@MrsMcMuffins

Outside the UK the British government is seen as quite reckless and slow at reacting and locking down. Many countries have gone a lot further to protect their population than the UK and then of course there the Trump.

Our international reputation is in the toilet. We have one of the highest death rates in the whole world AND a buggered up economy. Well done us.

How embarrassing that we couldn't even get an excel spreadsheet right. World beating indeed.

Our incompetent negligent handling of the pandemic will surely serve us well when it comes to agreeing trade deals. Countries will be queueing up offering fantastic terms. Or perhaps not...

@PatriciaPerch
Sorry to hear about your mum. I hope it's nothing serious and she recovers quickly.
I really appreciate my local pharmacy and all the staff there.

JeanClaudeVanDammit Totally agree. It's a judgement call. And the complete failure of test and trace along with the wasted months of the summer has led to this. The government is the entity at which to focus anger and for those reasons. But we are where we are now and we can't have it all ways. So, see people and risk passing it on. Sometimes that risk is worth it.

Break the Rules, see loved ones. But, for the love of God, at least sit at a distance and have some ventilation going on. Anecdotally, this is where it breaks down - we just can't see people how we used to. Unless we accept that doing so poses great risk. Possibly not to the immediate people, but to the wider community. People would act so differently if they could see where their transmission chain ended up 🙁

I havent seen my parents for 3 weeks thanks to a local lockdown. My father was taken into hospital Tuesday hes really poorly . I live in the same town as the hospital he is in. I cant go to the hospital to visit him . Also we have been told not to phone the hospital to see how he is , we have to wait for the hospital to phone my mum ... I am beyond pissed off.

I agree OP. I cannot cope with the idea of not seeing my parents for months on end. I’m angry too.

I’ve followed all the rules. I wear a damn mask, I socially distance, work from home and have no human contact outside my immediate family. My world and that of my kids has shrunk to previously unrecognizable levels but oh no that’s not good enough. Now new ‘laws’ want to make it illegal for me to see my own fuckin parents.

Sod that many many people are going to die from stress related illnesses like heart disease and suicides... Sod that there’s a mental health crisis.

The British public are sheep to be honest, mindless sheep.

I wish they'd say what percentage of positive tests are in educational settings because it'll be a considerable percentage. There were 770 cases last Friday alone at Northumbria University. Most of the hotspots and worst hit areas have sizeable student populations and most areas that are still relatively low in cases have low or no student population. I have no problem with schools reopening but universities should have stuck to online learning.

Starmer was right to ask Johnson what is the reason for the hotspots to continue rising hugely despite most of them having already been in stricter restrictions than the rest of England. Lockdowns aren't working.

Sorry, but people will only take so much of not being able to see family etc when plenty of MPs and SPADs ignored the various rules, ministers don't know what the rules are themselves, and the bollocks that we're all supposed to pull together for the benefit of everyone when lots of people are bring thrown to the wolves or under a bus by the Govt.

I’m in lockdown. Every one is carrying on as “normal”.