To be really angry that seeing my parents is illegal?

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My area is very likely to be locked down next week. I am so furious that it’s going to be against the law for me to see my parents, and my children to see their grandparents. We did lockdown properly last time, it was absolutely awful. My mental health plummeted and I don’t think I can do it again. I rely on support from family and friends.

Just feeling so incredibly angry about it all tonight. Poor people in Leicester have lived like this for 100 days so far with no end in site.

I’m so fed up and I know I’m going to be told to just get on it it. But I just need a space to vent.

[quote FractionalGains]@SheepandCow I think there’s a lot of people who stand to lose their jobs who are not rich do not support lockdown but regardless, I have no quarrel with your post. You see lockdown as the lesser of two evils and you might be right. I object to the tone of the posts essentially telling people it isn’t that bad and to get a grip.[/quote]
I do agree. It's all shit. Everyone's worried and stressed. All this division too.
It's no good.

I don't want lockdown. We should've done it properly months ago at the start. By now we could've been mostly normal.

Now? I think perhaps a short proper one might be the lesser of two evils - but only if it's done properly. No more dragged out on off confusing different rules for every area. One big proper national lockdown. Short but strict.

We really need to get on top of it - get it contained, because the sooner we do that, the quicker we could return to some form of normality.

A good test, track, and trace system would help (minus excel spreadsheet failures!). Perhaps we could manage without a strict lockdown if we sorted that out.

@MustStopSnacking28

I am in a local lockdown area and have followed the rules until now. However my dad has pancreatic cancer now, caught very late, and likely only has a few weeks left. So I don’t really give a flying fuck what they say on Monday for the big announcement - I will be visiting him and spending what time I can with him even though I know it will be against the rules.

Give him a huge hug he needs it

@SheepandCow

I don’t know why you persist with this idea that it is either draconian lockdown or ‘let covid rip’.

Most people who are against lockdown do not want to just remove all restrictions. I support the rule of six and retaining measures like masks and social distancing for now. I would also reintroduce shielding on a voluntary, funded basis.

We can take measures that are not lockdown to reduce transmission.

@Ecosse
It's just my personal preference. (To contain it as soon as possible, that is. I wouldn't choose let it rip).

Of course there's the alternative. The current dragged out, on off, everywhere has different rules situation that we've been doing for the last eight months.

I think that's worse than getting it over with - but that's just my view. I want to return as quickly as possible to as much normality as possible. I'd rather short term pain, long-term gain. However, perhaps high mask compliance and a better functioning test, track, and trace system (no more excel spreadsheet cock ups) will be enough to contain it. It would be great if it does.

Fur ihre sichersheit

@Mimishimi not a helpful comparison, and an incorrectly spelt and grammatically incorrect one, too.

I agree with you, OP. I'm in an area that is likely to be locked down next week and I have no intention of following the restrictions. I limit my social contact, as I've done since March, but I'm not going to prevent my son from seeing his grandparents. I have real concerns as to where this is going and for how long.

I'm in an area that is likely to be locked down next week and I have no intention of following the restrictions.

My area has been in local lockdown for weeks. DP and I have followed the rules the whole time. I haven't seen my parents for weeks. Yet all around me I see people with the attitude of the above poster. People openly saying "I'm not going to follow the rules because it doesn't suit me" and going to visit other people in their homes.
This selfish attitude fills me with anger and sadness in equal measure. Do you seriously think that those of us who are actually abiding by the law are doing it because it suits us and we're happy about it?

Do you follow it to the letter bluesheep8 even if you can see it’s contradictory? I have huge issues with the fact that you can forced to self isolate if you’ve sat next to someone in a cafe for 15 minutes who then tests positive. If my son who I live with tests positive though I’d still be expected to go to work and his brother would still be expected to attend school. Surely you can see that is absolute madness?

"If my son who I live with tests positive though I’d still be expected to go to work and his brother would still be expected to attend school."
I've maybe misunderstood but you would both be expected to isolate for 14 days

[quote Ecosse]@SheepandCow

I don’t know why you persist with this idea that it is either draconian lockdown or ‘let covid rip’.

Most people who are against lockdown do not want to just remove all restrictions. I support the rule of six and retaining measures like masks and social distancing for now. I would also reintroduce shielding on a voluntary, funded basis.

We can take measures that are not lockdown to reduce transmission.[/quote]
Isn’t this what they’ve been trying for the last few weeks, it obviously hasn’t worked?

@FeckOffCup1

Do you follow it to the letter bluesheep8 even if you can see it’s contradictory? I have huge issues with the fact that you can forced to self isolate if you’ve sat next to someone in a cafe for 15 minutes who then tests positive. If my son who I live with tests positive though I’d still be expected to go to work and his brother would still be expected to attend school. Surely you can see that is absolute madness?

If your son who you live with tests positive, you are expected to isolate with anyone else in your household not go to work!!!!

Really? We’ve had a child test positive at my sons school and his brother has been told he still had to attend school or risk a fine. Is that incorrect then?

That’s totally correct. Unless your child develops symptoms - then your home family has to SI until either negative test or 2 weeks have passed.

I thought you could meet for a walk in a park.

I'm in a lockdown area in the North East. We can walk in the park as a household. We can't meet others for a walk in the park.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong. My children are desperate to meet their friends.

I’d go see whoever I want to see anyway. This is all bullshit and if people actually did proper research they’d know that. 99.99% recovery rate!!! How many cancers are going undetected because the hospitals are off Limits??? There is no way I’m obeying any lock down restrictions again. I don’t give a shite who thinks crap of me. People are dying from a lot more than a virus, remember if you went to the doctor when you are unwell and they tell you to go home and ride it out it’s only a virus. I’ve had the virus and it’s not horrifically bad. I’ve had the flu years ago and felt like death.

Really? We’ve had a child test positive at my sons school and his brother has been told he still had to attend school or risk a fine. Is that incorrect then?

Maybe they aren’t in the same class or bubble. The point of the bubble system is that whole schools aren’t sent home to SI if one child in the school tests positive - just the class or applicable bubble.

If the child lives with his brother yes he should be off school. The whole household should be isolating, not leaving the house.
It doesn't matter if at school the siblings are in different bubbles.

The child and the brother are in separate bubbles but only the child who has CV has been told SI. The brother who lives in the same household is still being expected to go to school and is being dropped into school by the mum who also lives in the same house.

Yes that's totally wrong. The parents can't have failed to see the advice, it's everywhere.
If a child is sent home as a contact of a case, the rest of the household can operate as normal but should avoid contact with the contact.

But the child should be under self isolation rules
Staying away, separate bathroom or bathroom bleached after each visit, no mixing, meals brought to the room. Etc

It’s the first basic instruction we had

Separate bathroom or bleach after each visit surely.

Only so much you can take? FFS, people love a drama. you are being asked to stay in your warm cosy home, you can go for walks, bike riding, visit a sodding national trust garden. You can get food delivered or you are allowed to go to the shops. You can video call family and friends.

Yeah, if you have a warm, cosy, safe home, transport, national trust membership and a means of contacting the outside world.

But do remember that hundreds of thousands of people - especially women and children - don’t. And try to think about what we are asking of those people before you do the whole ‘FFS, this virus KILLS’ routine.

I’ve no idea whether the child is being completely isolated or not. He’s only 8 so I can’t imagine he is. We’re in South Hams which has pretty much the lowest level of cases for the whole country so I have a feeling people just aren’t sure of the rules yet as it’s just not happened before. Sounds like our cases might be increasing pretty rapidly soon though ! 😬