Just found out that Billie Piper doesn't share social/political views as her ex H

[EddyF]

I just assumed that she shared similar views as that silly man. I am not sure what attracted her to him; she seems pretty level headed and clued up.

I googled her as I saw a movie featuring her and I wanted to watch it but wouldn't have watched it if she was anything like that Lawrence/Laurence, or whatever he's called. I really dislike the man and his face, and unfairly, I had lumbered Bilie with him despite them being separated.

But I can't imagine marrying and having kids with someone who is on a completely different wavelength on such important issues.

I guess there's no aibu but had me reflect if he was always like this/only become like what he is after the divorce.

I would hate to parent with someone with views like him. I would be worried what he's teaching my children all types of intolerance. Plus he's just not very bright.

Why have there been loads of reports about this thread?
Because the woke snowflakes get triggered by criticism of white, middle class men?

The irony is is that people who get fed up with having different points of view and other opinions 'forced upon them' are usually the ones who have the massive platforms, the media support, take part in TV debates, who usually see their POV represented in culture, in school books, in school history etc - and who have been part of a group who have been pushing their world view on people for ages.

chomalungma yep

Are Sainsbury's telling you what to think? Or are they telling you what they think?

Bang on the money, chomalungma

The amount of people who are deeply triggered by someone stating their own personal opinion, or who believe that someone stating an opinion that they don't share is a direct attack on them, is extraordinary.

I could post, "I dislike gin" and someone would start screaming, "How dare you say anyone who likes gin is wrong." It's that insane.

The other day I accidentally used the term "BIPOC" instead of "BAME" on a thread here without thinking (simply because BIPOC is the preferred and most common term in the country I've spent much of my life, and within my industry). It was in the most innocuous context and if I'd used BAME instead, no one would have objected.

Instead there were pages of howling outrage, "HOW DARE YOU TELL ME I'M RACIST FOR NOT USING BIPOC", I was called a virtue-signaller, accused of forcing terminology onto people, accused of calling people racist, and many much worse personal attacks and name-calling.

I didn't say anyone else should use BIPOC. I didn't say BIPOC is better than any other term. I didn't say anyone who didn't use it was racist. I didn't say a single word about anyone else. I didn't say a single word about what language/terminology people should or should not use.

All I did was use a particular term to describe myself, that was a different term from the one other posters would use to describe me.

It's extraordinary that some people really are completely unable to cope with the idea that anyone thinks even slightly differently from them. Extraordinary and frightening.

‘Are Sainsbury's telling you what to think? Or are they telling you what they think?

Bang on the money, ’

Choma made that comment to me, and I have never even mentioned Sainsbury’s. You’re fighting imaginary opponents who are experiencing imaginary outrage.

‘Because the woke snowflakes get triggered by criticism of white, middle class men?‘

Is it really necessary to keep using triggered as a slur? You could make the same joke/point by using offended instead of triggered.

Choma made that comment to me, and I have never even mentioned Sainsbury’s. You’re fighting imaginary opponents who are experiencing imaginary outrage

Well - Sainsbury's attitude seems to have triggered Lawrence Fox,
This thread is about him and his attitudes and general attitudes to wokeness.

You made a comment on being fed up with being told what to think.

So it did seem a logical step....

[quote Roussette]I would expect no less from Billie Piper.

Whereas 'Lozza' as he calls himself on Twitter is bloody awful and setting up a posh UKIP party.
He's a tw@t
An as for his singing voice, judge for yourself, not sure the musicians accompanying him can keep a straight face

[/quote] I have never heard him 'sing' 🤣

@Stripesnomore

‘Because the woke snowflakes get triggered by criticism of white, middle class men?‘

Is it really necessary to keep using triggered as a slur? You could make the same joke/point by using offended instead of triggered.

I see you are triggered by the use of the word 'triggered'.

Offended works just as well though.

As does snowflakes.

Unless snowflakes only applies to people who are woke.

But I see people are virtue signalling their views on wokeness and how they feel about it - and I guess they are aware to the injust done to those who are suffering from cancel culture, so I guess that makes them woke - maybe they should virtue signal how they feel about cancel culture by calling for companies and people accused of virtue signalling to be cancelled and boycotted?

So they end up calling for themselves to be boycotted

‘I see you are triggered by the use of the word 'triggered'.

Offended works just as well though.

As does snowflakes.

Unless snowflakes only applies to people who are woke.’

Neither snowflakes nor offended refers to people with mental health issues though. It isn’t okay to use triggered as a term of abuse when it derives from the symptoms of PTSD.

And I am certainly not calling for Dione, a poster I respect, to be cancelled.

I would just rather we didn’t mock or trivialise mental health problems, or use them as a slur.

@sst1234

What has he said that’s racist?

I've never heard him say anything racist either.

@aintnousernamelikenousername

People don’t need to ‘get over it’. Cancelling someone isn’t wrong if they have despicable and disgusting views like that fool does.

What has he said that's disgusting and/or despicable?

That's the thing people struggle to find evidence

When I say I don’t want to be told what to think I am referring to the statement about having to express national pride.

kirinm
You're lucky!

If he's never said anything disgusting, racist or terrible... why has he deleted all his tweets prior to 31st August then?

Course he has

My use of the words "triggered", "woke" and "snowflakes" is completely deliberate in that post. Are you trying to censor me @Stripesnomore? You'll be trying to cancel me next and then where does that leave poor Lozza?

I have never heard him 'sing'
I wish I could say that, but thanks to @Roussette, I have suffered that insult to my ears. I must remember to never click links on Mnet.

Wow that singing was terrible. His political opinions are actually more palatable than his singing voice. WTAF!

Dione 🤣🤣🤣
There is nothing like an actor who can't sing but just bulldozes on thinking he can!

At least we are all in agreement on his singing voice!
Rather refreshing actually.... to all agree

Oops, x-posted with you there @Stripesnomore.

That's the thing people struggle to find evidence

That simply isn't true.

People struggle to find "evidence" that racism-deniers with an agenda to deny and dismiss any and all racism beneath the Emmett Till level will accept.

Every single time racism is raised on MN, in any context, certain posters will demand that the people complaining about racism provide "evidence", then immediately and automatically dismiss it out of hand with "well I personally don't think that's racist!" It's happened a million times, it's like clockwork. It doesn't matter whether it's a thread about a celeb, or a thread where someone is complaining their boss is racist.

If the burden of proof on people complaining about racism is "find evidence that will convince people who have made racism-denial their hill to die, on that racism does in fact exist", then the burden of proof is simply too high.

Some posters will never accept that racism exists. Never never never. They will look at examples of racism far worse and more overt than discussed here - Trumpian levels of racism - and blindly insist that in their personal opinion NEH-NAH, sorry not racist!

It's basically a form of sea-lioning. Constantly forcing people to scurry around providing "evidence" which you can easily reject simply by stating you personally don't think it's racist. There are posters here who swear blind that Donald Trump isn't the slightest bit racist. It's an unwinnable contest, and a way of derailing discussion.

No, I’m not trying to censor you Dione.

I’m asking you politely if you could find another way of making the same point, because while I am not triggered by you using the word triggered, many things do trigger me, and I find it quite upsetting and dehumanising that you would use the word to make a (funny and apt) joke which you could have made without referencing mental illness.

@HeresMe

That's the thing people struggle to find evidence

He certainly seems to have an issue with people talking about race and inequalities linked to race

One of his recent tweets.

"Turns out White Privilege isn’t all its cracked up to be.

We need to stop looking at everything through the pernicious and divisive lens of race.

It’s what’s inside that counts, skin colour is incidental.

Be Colourblind. Equality of opportunity for everyone"