Just found out that Billie Piper doesn't share social/political views as her ex H

[EddyF]

I just assumed that she shared similar views as that silly man. I am not sure what attracted her to him; she seems pretty level headed and clued up.

I googled her as I saw a movie featuring her and I wanted to watch it but wouldn't have watched it if she was anything like that Lawrence/Laurence, or whatever he's called. I really dislike the man and his face, and unfairly, I had lumbered Bilie with him despite them being separated.

But I can't imagine marrying and having kids with someone who is on a completely different wavelength on such important issues.

I guess there's no aibu but had me reflect if he was always like this/only become like what he is after the divorce.

I would hate to parent with someone with views like him. I would be worried what he's teaching my children all types of intolerance. Plus he's just not very bright.

@Theworldisfullofgs

If anyone has looked at the Reclaim initial manifesto, it has fairly fascist overtones. Its all about thought policing institutions.

He wants cancel culture when it suits him. Not an advocate of free speech at all.

I think this is the problem with a lot of the popular free speech advocates, they can be huge hypocrites. I do have some big concerns over free speech, cancel culture, censorship etc, but so many people heading these movements are only really bothered about themselves.

@longwayoff

Wtf an actor doing on Question Time anyway? It's a political programme. I haven't watched it for a few years but have they resorted to recruiting from BBC Green rooms? What next? Mr Tumble comments on the national debt?

Interestingly the Reclaim party has managed to raise £5m and has all dort of interesting people behind them including the Head of PR for QT.

twitter.com/politicworm/status/1310953494799626240?s=19

‘Wtf an actor doing on Question Time anyway? It's a political programme. I haven't watched it for a few years but have they resorted to recruiting from BBC Green rooms? What next? Mr Tumble comments on the national debt?’

Brava

Sorry, Press officer.

And various ex BBC bods, Telegraph...

I see he's concerned that they are publishing their ethnicity pay gap as well.

Did it not occur to him that there might be a range of reasons why - as there are for women - that a pay gap might exist?

I bet he's very quiet though about companies that produce gender pay reports.

It's not companies paying people less because of their ethnicity. It's structural reasons why a pay gap might exist in an organisation.

I agree with @JellyFishSquish

So his views don't chime with yours? And?! Are his views illegal? No they're not. Are his views abhorrent to most people? Yes. Do I agree with his views? Absolutely not so I find it simple to just ignore him.

I remember a world when not everyone had to have the same thought processes and opinions. It was better.

@Warsawa31

Have we always celebrated black history month in the U.K.? I know it was an American thing but I never really heard it here before this year. I guess raising awareness of it has worked for me. Best not to get whipped into a frenzy either way - Everyone has their own opinion - and that should be cherished. He disagrees with how most parts of society are going about trying to bring in equality - the trouble is he doesn't put any alternatives across, I agree with him that we should look past skin colour - but right now it seems to be a barrier for BAME people? So it wouldn't be fair to do that. On the out her hand when will it be fair to do it ? What's the end point we are working towards?

Side note Morgan Freeman hates black history month - he makes some great points around it.

First one I knew of was 1997 when DD1 was in Reception.

So not an American thing that only came about this year.

I think LF bitched about how 'everybody knew' there were no black or minority ethnic people present, so it was ridiculous to 'force' them into films about the First World War - and then promptly got his arse handed to him by actual history.

Anger is a common reaction for those who are particularly dim and lacking in self awareness, I find.

Its not just his views though, is it?

Have you seen who he has set up with? Have you seen the manifesto?

The reality is that he's probably being used as a useful idiot. Its not really about him, its what he is wanting to make happen.

If you're OK with far right, then that's up to you. I'm not. I grew up discussing the implications of that by understanding what my parents went through.

I dont question his mental health, he just doesnt have some of the same views as me. However, i completly dont think he is racist. He is just fed up of the "woke" brigade and, frankly arent we all?

Bravo, a sensible comment. The extremes are, as ever, destroying that which they claim to support. Naturally he will be pilloried for not holding the 'correct' views, remember we are all expected to be on message or we are pariahs, much the same as Germany on the 30s.

Here's what he's promoting.

including the Head of PR for QT
FORMER head of PR for QT

And Lozza has deleted all his tweets prior to 31st August. I wonder why... actually don't answer that, I think I know...

Anger is a common reaction for those who are particularly dim and lacking in self awareness, I find.

By that one assumes you refer to anyone who doesn't hold the same views as you, such is your take on democracy.

Its not just about ignoring him.

They've got £5m to set up a new ultra right wing party.

Naturally he will be pilloried for not holding the 'correct' views, remember we are all expected to be on message or we are pariahs, much the same as Germany on the 30s

He's expressed his view on Twitter and it's also got an article in the Daily Mail.

That's his right in a free country.

People have disagreed with it. Some people have agreed with it.

Because in a free country. that's what people can do.

In Hitler's Germany, people who thought differently were executed.

@keeprocking

Anger is a common reaction for those who are particularly dim and lacking in self awareness, I find.

By that one assumes you refer to anyone who doesn't hold the same views as you, such is your take on democracy.

More derision for people too stupid to check history for facts before taking offence at something that actually reflects those facts, really.

I don’t want the government to start promoting national pride anymore than I want them to promote national shame.

I dislike being told what to think, and in general so does the rest of the country.

@Theworldisfullofgs

Here's what he's promoting.

FFS

chomalungma

I don't quite understand how you don't get he wants to set up a political party that polices what people think and say? It's beyond irony, its dangerous.

I dislike being told what to think, and in general so does the rest of the country

Are Sainsbury's telling you what to think?
Or are they telling you what they think?

‘I don't quite understand how you don't get he wants to set up a political party that polices what people think and say? It's beyond irony, its dangerous.’

What we say is already policed. It is just a new dangerous thing not a different one.

Sometimes MN is so ridiculous all I can do is laugh.

The other day I was pilloried by some of the anti-wokesters by comparing Donald Trump to Hitler. Today posters criticising and disagreeing with racist and misogynistic comments are being directly compared to Nazi Germany.

So his views don't chime with yours? And?! Are his views illegal? No they're not. Are his views abhorrent to most people? Yes. Do I agree with his views? Absolutely not so I find it simple to just ignore him.

But you aren't ignoring him. Reading and commenting on a thread about him is the opposite to ignoring him. You've actively chosen to seek out a forum thread discussing him, then spend time typing out your views about him, including the fact that you disagree with him, and believe most people find his views abhorrent.

That's pretty much the same thing everyone else has been saying (albeit in slightly more colourful language sometimes), which has resulted in them being castigated as "woke", "virtue signallers", "against free speech", "Orwellian", "censorship" and like Nazi Germany.

Fox hasn't been cancelled. No one has taken his job from him, though he's done the same to others. He's not been imprisoned, or denied any platform; in fact the opposite. All anyone at least on here has done has said they disagree with him and think he's a berk.

Why is saying you disagree with and dislike someone like Nazi Germany? Surely that's the very basis of free speech?

There's only one person in this debate who's trying to silence and censor people, and it's not any of us. Read the manifesto.

@Theworldisfullofgs

chomalungma

I don't quite understand how you don't get he wants to set up a political party that polices what people think and say? It's beyond irony, its dangerous.

Why was that aimed at me?

I dislike being told what to think, and in general so does the rest of the country

‘Are Sainsbury's telling you what to think?
Or are they telling you what they think?’

Neither.

chomalungma

Sorry, having re read your post I misinterpreted what you said. Apologies.