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To think we are heading for a full 2 week national half term lockdown

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Midlifelights · 04/10/2020 13:15

DS’s school ramping up the preparation to teach on MS teams & making sure they can all use it & have the tech in place.

Teachers indicating that it’s going to be half term plus another couple of weeks after.

Given the rising numbers, it’s seems more likely that’s what’s coming - and maybe even a full lockdown this time & not the half arsed one we had before.

Aibu? I am worried as my kids really hated it last time but with so many new cases, it just seems the likely path

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Hobnobsandbroomstick · 04/10/2020 21:17

As in, the last one the rules were unclear, it probably wasn’t strict enough- my friends in Spain couldn’t leave their house at all apart from shopping & medicine - no daily exercise etc. I really don’t want another one but the last one was exceptionally blurry in so many ways.

Was it really that hard to understand the initial national lockdown? I remember it as stay at home, unless you need to leave for work, food or medicine. Don't mix with other households. You can go for one form of outside exercise every day. Not that hard to understand Confused.

No way would I be happy to not even be able to leave home for a daily walk. Also I don't think we should be taking the lead from Spain seeing as they are currently having the worse second wave in Europe.

CheeryAlmond · 04/10/2020 21:17

@LakieLady

*I find it funny how, this time last year, UC was 'more than enough' and claimants that were starving were being told 'it's about budgeting, you should be grateful'. Now the MCs are needing to claim (and get a taste) it's 'not enough to live one, I get no help with my mortgage, I can't afford x,y,z'.

Incredible how the narrative changed*

Yes, it's too much for the feckless lower orders, but not enough for responsible, middle-class people who know how to budget. Hmm

A client got proper arsey with me a couple of weeks ago, when I explained that the only help he could get towards his mortgage would be a loan, and that he wouldn't be able to apply for it for approx 10 months.

I didn't know what I was talking about apparently, because this government wouldn't treat hard-working homeowners like that, so I suggested he contact his MP (who is also my MP, who is also a thick twat who specialises in missing the point in a spectacular fashion, so good luck with that).

Couldn't agree more. You can see from all the previously comfortable middle-class on Twitter.

'I've worked hard my entire life and the government won't give me enough to pay my bills.'
Yet they no doubt voted the tories in.

Baffling. I wish no hardship on anyone, but what did you expect? Special treatment because you used to have a job? So did the majority of people on UC funnily enough.

tempnamechange98765 · 04/10/2020 21:19

I highly doubt it. A teacher friend who is also a Governor has been told by the LEA that schools will be staying open no matter what.

noideaatallreally · 04/10/2020 21:27

Just because the LEA says it will not happen does not mean that it will not. Back in March when the gov were making decisions about school closures my head found out after I did because I had the BBC new flash come up on my phone. I told him that we were closing. He was not best pleased :(

I cannot see how schools will be able to stay open, They are already going down like dominoes. It actually only takes a small % of the teaching staff to be off sick before it becomes impossible to cover lessons.

midnightstar66 · 04/10/2020 21:34

Yes, it's £20 per week extra on to working tax credits due to covid but please know that they have swiftly removed more than that from my housing benefit as an increase in income! Hasn't helped me at all. While they were at it they have put a deduction of earnings on my wages for an old dwp loan. They sent the letter out and asked me to call them by the 16th (I was busy and forgot) by the 20th I had a 2nd class letter with the doe so it took too them
2 days max to arrange! . 2 years it took them to do that for my ex in regard to child maintenance!!

DumplingsAndStew · 04/10/2020 21:41

[quote CornishTiger]@CheeryAlmond it’s actually £20 people week approx or nearly £100 a month. I hope they keep it tbh. It’s made budgeting more realistic for those I work with on UC. Still tough but less harsh.

@DumplingsAndStew those on certain benefits have seen covid uplifts in payments.[/quote]
Yes, some certain benefits. Which wasn't what the PP said.

tempnamechange98765 · 04/10/2020 21:44

I'm in Wales. It's very different here, thank god.

I truly don't see them closing. We all knew the 29th of March closures were coming.

tempnamechange98765 · 04/10/2020 21:45

Again this "going down like dominoes", where? I see nothing of that.

Here, we have been told that cases in schools have been isolated, one or two cases, which don't seem to be spreading further. All the evidence points to this good news.

CrappleUmble · 04/10/2020 21:51

@Hobnobsandbroomstick

As in, the last one the rules were unclear, it probably wasn’t strict enough- my friends in Spain couldn’t leave their house at all apart from shopping & medicine - no daily exercise etc. I really don’t want another one but the last one was exceptionally blurry in so many ways.

Was it really that hard to understand the initial national lockdown? I remember it as stay at home, unless you need to leave for work, food or medicine. Don't mix with other households. You can go for one form of outside exercise every day. Not that hard to understand Confused.

No way would I be happy to not even be able to leave home for a daily walk. Also I don't think we should be taking the lead from Spain seeing as they are currently having the worse second wave in Europe.

Well, you've just misunderstood it there. There was never a national rule limiting outside exercise to one form a day. I believe there was in Wales at one point, though I never read the legislation myself, but it was never UK wide. There was a lot of confusion on that point though, you're not the only one to have made that mistake by any means.
GingerAndTheBiscuits · 04/10/2020 21:59

What would be the point of a further lockdown/school closures? Unless there’s really efficient track, trace and isolate like in China and other places that have largely kept it under control, or we take the NZ/Australia route of closing our borders and/or isolating everyone who comes in, then won’t cases just surge again the second we reopen everything (especially as weather will be even colder then?). I don’t understand what a further lockdown would achieve.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 04/10/2020 22:04

I have no idea what anyone thinks another national lockdown would achieve. All it does it reduce transmission of the virus for the period of time that we are locked down for.

Seriously, why do people keep banging on about lockdown as if it is any kind of solution?

lljkk · 04/10/2020 22:10

A lot of people still hope eradication could happen thru lockdown & quarantine measures. *I was never one of them

CrappleUmble · 04/10/2020 22:11

@lljkk

A lot of people still hope eradication could happen thru lockdown & quarantine measures. *I was never one of them
Think that ship has probably sailed unfortunately.
Redlocks28 · 04/10/2020 22:15

Nearly 23,000 infection cases reported tonight (though some were from earlier in the week that were lost down the back of the sofa).

That is a lot-I can see the government wanting to be seen to be ‘doing something’ like this that might actually bring the rate of infection down.

Inkpaperstars · 04/10/2020 22:31

For eradication to occur you have to have a worldwide eradication including any animal reservoirs, we don't even know where these animal reservoirs are with covid. Effective elimination from certain populations is more likely but still a very distant and unlikely prospect.

Hobnobsandbroomstick · 04/10/2020 22:32

@CrappleUmble

Well, you've just misunderstood it there. There was never a national rule limiting outside exercise to one form a day. I believe there was in Wales at one point, though I never read the legislation myself, but it was never UK wide. There was a lot of confusion on that point though, you're not the only one to have made that mistake by any means.

When Boris announced lockdown he literally said:
"From this evening I must give the British people a very simple instruction, you must stay at home. Because the critical thing we must do is to stop the disease spreading between households. That is why people will only be allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes:

Shopping for basic necessities as infrequently as possible. One form of exercise per day, for example a run, walk or cycle, alone or with members of your household. Any medical need, to provide care or help to vulnerable person. And travelling to and from work, but onlywhere this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52012432

What have I misunderstood there? Hmm

Lalallama · 04/10/2020 22:33

It'd be another way to screw over the people of Leicester. Our half term is the week before much of the rest of the country so our children would miss three weeks of school. Bearing in mind that Leicester has been in lockdown since March I just want someone to give us a break.

CrappleUmble · 04/10/2020 22:33

That it wasn't the law. The regulations in England never specified one only. Boris saying something doesn't make it a legal requirement.

noideaatallreally · 04/10/2020 22:35

In this area every day on the news it's either a whole year group or a whole school being shut. I'm not claiming that a 2 week shut down will stop cases rising, though it might help - who knows. I think the shut down will be forced through lack of available teaching staff. In my region we went from low risk in the morning to high risk that evening. Once it is one case in a school it soon spreads to multiple cases.

Smellbellina · 04/10/2020 22:37

@Hobnobsandbroomstick I don’t think you’ve misunderstood anything! Grin

CrappleUmble · 04/10/2020 22:38

[quote Smellbellina]@Hobnobsandbroomstick I don’t think you’ve misunderstood anything! Grin[/quote]
Ok, can you link us to the legislation limiting exercise to once a day then please? Not the Welsh version.

Hobnobsandbroomstick · 04/10/2020 22:43

@CrappleUmble

I didn't say it was the law or a legal requirement.

It would be a bit dictatorship like if they had passed an actual law overnight on how many times you can go for a jog. I don't need for something to be illegal or legal to decide whether or not to do it. I followed the guidance around lockdown because it seemed the right thing to do, not because I was worried about being fined or arrested.

CrappleUmble · 04/10/2020 22:48

[quote Hobnobsandbroomstick]@CrappleUmble

I didn't say it was the law or a legal requirement.

It would be a bit dictatorship like if they had passed an actual law overnight on how many times you can go for a jog. I don't need for something to be illegal or legal to decide whether or not to do it. I followed the guidance around lockdown because it seemed the right thing to do, not because I was worried about being fined or arrested.[/quote]
You were responding to someone who said the rules were unclear when you opined that the initial lockdown was straightforward, and you responded to that by citing something that wasn't actually a rule? And you thought that assisted your point?

bumbleymummy · 04/10/2020 22:50

Yes, I think you’re right but it’s a bloody stupid idea and I’m pretty pissed off about it.

AutumnleavesturntoGold · 04/10/2020 22:56

Op who knows what, I just think the gov is preparing this time n case of 🔒 downs making sure everyone is is more equally taught.

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