To think we are heading for a full 2 week national half term lockdown

[Midlifelights]

DS’s school ramping up the preparation to teach on MS teams & making sure they can all use it & have the tech in place.

Teachers indicating that it’s going to be half term plus another couple of weeks after.

Given the rising numbers, it’s seems more likely that’s what’s coming - and maybe even a full lockdown this time & not the half arsed one we had before.

Aibu? I am worried as my kids really hated it last time but with so many new cases, it just seems the likely path

@Bxjd

People on benefits have been getting extra money since the last lockdown, I’m sure it was for 12 months they get something extra each time there paid.

Thats not even true. Do some people here just pluck 'facts' out their arses?

@Mariola321

Birmingham isn't in the North!!

I know but was passing very ethnic area with temple and halal shops and big crowds coming out with no facemask.

Do they know that such racist people are visiting their area?

I think the same and actually really hope it happens! Happiest we’ve been as a family for years!

@noblegiraffe

It'll be tough selling a nationwide lockdown to the South East and West were infections are much lower.

I'm in the South East. The weather is shite right now anyway. Let me WFH FT again, I will be happy! (My friends in the hospitality industry won't be, though, unless they are guaranteed full pay while the restaurants/bars close).

As an aside, isn't the incubation period up to 21 days? Not sure that a 2 week lockdown would really do much.

Maybe I'm Oblivious but I can't see the south - where I am -having one. Nothing to suggest one here.

@gypsywater

How was the last lockdown half assed? Genuine question, not being rude

Compared to other countries in Europe and elsewhere, the U.K. lockdown wasn't even a lockdown.

@Inkpaperstars

Sorry haven't RTFT, but are the local lockdowns actually reducing cases? I thought I heard that apart from Luton cases are still rising in those areas. Is it just too soon to see results, or are too many not complying, or are they just not effective?

If they don't seem effective then any national one would only be worthwhile if much stricter I suppose. I don't think they will ban outdoor exercise, I seriously hope not as a flat dweller with no outside space. They might limit it to just walking I guess and no sports but that seems fairly unlikely too.

I know they keep saying we can do it (bring cases right down) because we have done it before, but we have never actually done it with the seasons against us.

I doubt they will because most cases are being transmitted through work, schools and care homes. Unless they stop work and schools again, it's just paying lip service. They have to be seen to be doing something, and don't want to bugger up the economy any more (rightly so)

Local lockdowns done sod all, manchester in the 300s per 100,000 people up from the 100s a couple of weeks ago so lets all admit that short of a national full on lockdown this virus is unstoppable

But why should we have had one as tough as theirs when it turns out theirs didn't work either? Surely we should be imposing as light measures as possible?

@CheeryAlmond it’s actually £20 people week approx or nearly £100 a month. I hope they keep it tbh. It’s made budgeting more realistic for those I work with on UC. Still tough but less harsh.

@DumplingsAndStew those on certain benefits have seen covid uplifts in payments.

A lockdown of businesses without renewal of furlough will not work.
Too many families have run out of resources
both mental
and financial

and there is no evidence that lockdowns actually work in large countries with dense populations

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A lockdown of businesses without furlough will be closing them. After all the effort to keep them open, many would close and unemployment would be very high.

I can’t see us going back to furlough or lockdown that requires it.

Or I hope not. The thought of another economic hit is too much.

Have any areas succeeded in getting high numbers down? How’s Leicester doing?

Swansea cases are dropping, I think.

We have 11 cases per 100,000. I will be bloody furious if they lock us in for two weeks.

We have 9! Noone will do it!

@klinghoffer In what ways?

On this link you can look up any local authority and track the cases over time
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

Swansea stabilising at 15 cases per 100,000 per day

Leicester down to 10 per 100,000 per day

comparison : Wiltshire holding steady on 2 per 100000 per day

@ListeningQuietly

On this link you can look up any local authority and track the cases over time www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

Swansea stabilising at 15 cases per 100,000 per day

Leicester down to 10 per 100,000 per day

comparison : Wiltshire holding steady on 2 per 100000 per day

Thanks. That is good for Leicester. Their measures have helped, and not closing businesses etc

I can't see how we can close schools again.

We have to learn to live with this virus.

Either as we are now by seriously improving track & trace etc or by significantly rethinking the way we live. Two weeks in, two weeks off for school. Work through summer hols. Shorter days and much less holiday. Local families getting organised childcare together.

I qualify as a key worker. Last time I didn't sent my kids in as I felt the medics were the priority. This time I will crack trying to work and look after young kids. I will absolutely be taking advantage of key worker care, as will everyone else in my position I know.

I'm hoping that wasn't aimed at me cheeryalmond, as nothing like that has ever come out of my mouth about UC.

*I find it funny how, this time last year, UC was 'more than enough' and claimants that were starving were being told 'it's about budgeting, you should be grateful'.
Now the MCs are needing to claim (and get a taste) it's 'not enough to live one, I get no help with my mortgage, I can't afford x,y,z'.

Incredible how the narrative changed*

Yes, it's too much for the feckless lower orders, but not enough for responsible, middle-class people who know how to budget.

A client got proper arsey with me a couple of weeks ago, when I explained that the only help he could get towards his mortgage would be a loan, and that he wouldn't be able to apply for it for approx 10 months.

I didn't know what I was talking about apparently, because this government wouldn't treat hard-working homeowners like that, so I suggested he contact his MP (who is also my MP, who is also a thick twat who specialises in missing the point in a spectacular fashion, so good luck with that).

@CrappleUmble

I'm hoping that wasn't aimed at me cheeryalmond, as nothing like that has ever come out of my mouth about UC.

No, I was agreeing with your point!

Good!