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to not believe Trump has Covid?

397 replies

GeorgeDavidson · 02/10/2020 09:05

Well, MN, does he or doesn't he?

YANBU - no, he doesn't have it
YABU - yes he probably does, why would they lie?

Is this just some ploy to miss next debates and make him look 'tough' when he sails through it without getting ill?

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DameFanny · 02/10/2020 12:39

What do the conspiracy theorists think? I screenshotted this from one of the nutter forums this morning

to not believe Trump has Covid?
blueberrypie0112 · 02/10/2020 12:39

I haven’t read all the thread but his closest aide, hope hicks, tested positive, if he got it, I don’t think it will affect him much even though he eat fast food.

neversayalways · 02/10/2020 12:39

But having covid is bad for him. One of his strengths is his rallies amongst his base. He can't do those now.

Having to hide in the white house during his election campaign is not a good look for him.

MarshaBradyo · 02/10/2020 12:42

I think he’d do anything and say anything to spin a story.

Hard to know either way if you are a fabricator like that

Leaannb · 02/10/2020 12:43

He has been in and out of my state for the past two months....We just posted our our highest infection rates since July. No doubt in my mind he has Covid. No doubt Melanie's it too. Considering his daughter was wondering around a hot spot it wouldn't surprise if she had it....We told him we didn't want him here

knittingaddict · 02/10/2020 12:47

@HelloToMyKitty

DD11 came into the kitchen & said “ Good news - Trump’s got Covid! That’ll pay him back for all those people he didn’t help”. Out of the mouths of babes.....I wouldn’t wish it on anyone but maybe karma has paid a call here

This is a terrible thing for your daughter to say.

Just for context, I don't believe in capital punishment in any case, no matter how bad.

A virus ridding the earth of Trump? I can live with that.

As for Pence, I think he is worse than Trump in some ways. He has more control and more superficial polish, but that makes him more dangerous. He has stood by Trump's side all this time, holding his nose and biding his time. His beliefs are more obnoxious than Trump's because, I assume, they don't come from a place of mental illness or narcissism. Trump infuriates me. Pence makes my skin crawl.

Bathroom12345 · 02/10/2020 12:47

I do think he has it. I dont think he will fear a debate especially against Bieden who is completely hopeless. If that is the best they can do they deserve to lose.

Imagine Obama against him. Having said that Clinton didnt take Trump seriously enough and look what happened there.

Leaannb · 02/10/2020 12:48

@BruceAndNosh

With all the conspiracy theories he spouts, it's hardly surprising people don't believe him. Doubtless QAnon will say he was deliberately infected by Deep State
Ignoring the fact that this man has been in and out of a Hotspot state for the past 2 months...

Not being sparky with you because that conspiracy is already flying ignoring that simple fact.

Thats what you get for not listening to folks

Dee1975 · 02/10/2020 12:48

I was thinking the same this morning! Is this some ploy to get out the next debate or pull out altogether because he fears he may lose? So use this as the excuse!

Heffalooomia · 02/10/2020 12:49

@neversayalways

But having covid is bad for him. One of his strengths is his rallies amongst his base. He can't do those now.

Having to hide in the white house during his election campaign is not a good look for him.

He's cornered with nowhere to go, he can't risk another debate because it showed exactly how out of control he is... he has to find some way to buy some time to get himself back together
knittingaddict · 02/10/2020 12:51

@DameFanny

What do the conspiracy theorists think? I screenshotted this from one of the nutter forums this morning
I love how they all think Trump is some kind of genius mastermind with a cunning plan. So deluded.
ddl1 · 02/10/2020 12:54

I don't know. It could be a 'diplomatic illness' - I could imagine that his staff might think his election chances are higher if he's quarantined away from debates! Or he could really have it. I hope it's not genuine, or that he makes a speedy recovery if it is: not that I love him, but Mike Pence is even worse!

Bathroom12345 · 02/10/2020 12:57

Kitty and Knitting. Its shocking that your young daughter said that. Does she really mean that? Does she know in great detail about US politics? Somehow I dont think so.

blueberrypie0112 · 02/10/2020 12:58

So I read he got it. This may mean Biden probably got it too. I am more concern for Biden, he went through a lot like the loss of his son, and those type of stress on your body can be a problem. Trump will be ok.

BUT I also think it is fake. Like a child pretending to be sick on the day of a test. I don’t think he want to do any debates.

blueberrypie0112 · 02/10/2020 13:00

@Bathroom12345

Kitty and Knitting. Its shocking that your young daughter said that. Does she really mean that? Does she know in great detail about US politics? Somehow I dont think so.
Sadly, people get so frustrated, trying to shake some empathy in him, that she is not the only one who came across this dark thoughts. I often hope that maybe finally he can understand”
Bathroom12345 · 02/10/2020 13:02

I saw the debate and honestly they were both as bad as each other. Bieden was sturggling with his words, he looked vacant. If the Demos want to win next time they need to have a better candidate. Not someone who should have been retired years ago.

Dont know who is going to win but the opposition has chosen an old man who isnt cabable of being President. He looks scared and I have seen some videos of how Bieden behaves around young women including that shocking video of him seemingly touching a young 8 year old.

VinylDetective · 02/10/2020 13:03

@HelloToMyKitty

DD11 came into the kitchen & said “ Good news - Trump’s got Covid! That’ll pay him back for all those people he didn’t help”. Out of the mouths of babes.....I wouldn’t wish it on anyone but maybe karma has paid a call here

This is a terrible thing for your daughter to say.

No, it isn’t. It’s a perfectly reasonable thing for anyone to say. Be proud of her Kitty.
PicsInRed · 02/10/2020 13:05

Of course Trump has COVID and I dearly hope he survives or we (women) have president Mike Pence to deal with. If that happens, we'll quickly miss Trump keenly.

Bathroom12345 · 02/10/2020 13:06

She is 11! I have a niece who repeats what other say without any understanding of what she is saying. If you question her on what she means she has no idea....

Heffalooomia · 02/10/2020 13:06

I pray fervently for his survival
Please don't die Donnie I don't want you to get off that easily 🙏

user1471538283 · 02/10/2020 13:07

I wouldn't be surprised if he had it because he has been so cavalier about everything. I doubt she has but they need to make it up that she is close enough to him to get it. I bet his PR team are rubbing their hands at the spin they can put on this.

dreamingbohemian · 02/10/2020 13:08

There's an old American saying that seems appropriate today:

I have never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.

(attributed to Mark Twain but actually said by Clarence Darrow)

Heffalooomia · 02/10/2020 13:09

@Bathroom12345

I saw the debate and honestly they were both as bad as each other. Bieden was sturggling with his words, he looked vacant. If the Demos want to win next time they need to have a better candidate. Not someone who should have been retired years ago.

Dont know who is going to win but the opposition has chosen an old man who isnt cabable of being President. He looks scared and I have seen some videos of how Bieden behaves around young women including that shocking video of him seemingly touching a young 8 year old.

No they weren't as bad as each other, trump was completely out of control, he's supposed to be a leader but he lacks basic impulse control Biden isn't perfect but trump behaves like a caged bear
NRatched · 02/10/2020 13:10

Its remarkedly good timing, similar to Boris and his advisors all going down together for us..

Leaannb · 02/10/2020 13:10

@PicsInRed

Of course Trump has COVID and I dearly hope he survives or we (women) have president Mike Pence to deal with. If that happens, we'll quickly miss Trump keenly.
We won't have Pence for too long. Jist until the election