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ADHD husband has classed me as "unexceptional"

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Garfield4321 · 01/10/2020 21:05

My husband was diagnosed with ADHD as a child. Like many he grew out of some of the more well-known ADHD traits but now as an adult in his early thirties he still exhibits strong ADHD characteristics such as being extremely bright, a tendency to obsess over specific hobbies or subjects of interest, impulsiveness, an inability to focus or feign curiosity in anything that he doesn't consider interesting. If I ask a relative what they've been up to and they start talking about a hobby of their own which bores DH for example, he will simply walk away from the conversation without realising how rude he is being.

DH is a quick-thinker, charismatic, confident and has excelled in his vocation, albeit he achieved quite average grades throughout school and university. He has a close-knit group of friends many of whom either share some of his characteristics or, at the very least, share the same hobby. He can talk for hours with these friends and is animated, interested and complimentary.

I, on the other hand, am your textbook under-confident over-achiever in the sense that it was ingrained in me to work hard and as a result I have an excellent academic history despite probably being of probably quite average intelligence. I'm business-minded, emotionally intelligent and have a strong aptitude for problem-solving.....but I cannot recite Homer's Odyssey backwards or code a computer.

What bothers me is that I feel DH has written me off as unexceptional and, therefore, unworthy.

Any effort made to learn a new skill such as an instrument or a language is met with scepticism and disinterest. I managed to learn an instrument to exam-level in a matter of months but despite hearing me practice daily I don't think I ever heard DH say "that sounded really good". The one thing I remember is telling him I wanted to one-day learn a piece of music by X-musician and him replying that I would never be able to play to a high enough standard.

I also participate in a very challenging sporting activity and feel demeaned and disrespected when something the equivalent of running a marathon is referred to as my "little walk".

He expresses no interest in my hobbies or passions and dismisses my job as a menial glorified-admin role.

I suppose I just feel that I'm never "special" enough to be worthy of his respect.

On the flip side he can be extremely loving, affectionate, kind and considerate. I don't doubt that he loves me and he has a number of very attractive qualities.

Do I have unrealistic expectations? Is it childish of me to want my DH to occasionally give me a big smile and a "that was brilliant" or acknowledge my successes on the rare occasion when I can do something better than he can?

How much of this just goes hand-in-hand with his ADHD diagnosis in which case surely I should just accept that I can't change anything?

I don't need to be petted on the head like a puppy. I'd just like my DH to admire me for my capabilities for once.

OP posts:
VeganCow · 02/10/2020 12:06

When you do a marathon/whatever and he references it as a 'little walk' do you ask him what distance you would have to go before it moves from 'little' into something bigger? I would question him and see where his thinking is at

EternalOptimist7 · 02/10/2020 12:10

bertieslanding that’s brilliant!

Newfornow · 02/10/2020 12:14

This is a personality trait rather than ADHD in my experience.
My son has ADHD and can lack empathy but the people he loves he is very protective about. Especially when we say, they hurt our feelings. What is his typical emotional response to knowing you are offended or feelings hurt??

workhomesleeprepeat · 02/10/2020 12:16

The adhd is a red herring. Your h does not make you feel special.

He sounds like a thoroughly unexceptional husband tbh!

Nottherealslimshady · 02/10/2020 12:18

@medusawashere Also, I'm sick of reading that people with ASD or ADHD lack empathy. It's definitely there. We may have to learn how to express it in the way that neurotypicals expect and understand but it's there.

Yes! I've never been able to articulate how it is but it's this. I've always been empathetic, and I feel like I'm more empathetic than my neurotypical friends and family, they can only seem to empathise with people who are like them. But I just cant express it like them or comfort them very well.

SpaceOP · 02/10/2020 12:26

To those being kind enough to say it sounds like it's me who is the bright one and not him, that's very nice but not true. I'm not as sharp or quick-witted as he is. He is extremely well-read in history, latin etc. The type of person who can pull obscure quotes out of his sleeve and recite paragraphs from famous literature.

Haha. Well read and ability to memorise means nothing. Intelligence is the ability to understand, interpret, appreciate, extrapolate and apply skills and knowledge.

It also sounds like it's important for him to have you as the "dumb" one and him as the "clever" one. I bet he subtly and not so subtly reminds you of this a lot?

Sorry OP. I appreciate you want a happy relationship but without you seeing that hs behaviour is not okay and him then changing his behaviour, I don't see how that will happen.

NimAtkins · 02/10/2020 12:27

I’m married to someone who was diagnosed with ADHD and autism as a child and I know he struggles with emotions especially empathy. Everything you have mentioned sounds hurtful, I’d have a straight conversation and say how you feel. Btw, you are exceptional!

AuldFox · 02/10/2020 13:16

@SoulofanAggron

Sometimes I'll offer an opinion on something and it's dismissed. A well-respected male friend might offer the same opinion a few weeks later and DH will change his mind.

So as PP's said, he's a misogynist then. That won't help how he feels about you and treats you. Sad

Yup. Just a common sexist twat using ADHD as a cover.
laudete · 02/10/2020 14:23

Tbh, I agree with past posters. Sounds more like ASD issues than ADHD. I think he's missing something from his diagnosis - ASD and ADHD are commonly comorbid. In oversimplistic and not strictly true terms, ADHD is about focus and ASD is about feelings. You can learn/teach how to mimic neurotypical behaviour to a passing extent, depending on the severity of disabilities. (You can also learn to not value your worth by other people's interest in your hobbies/skills. Don't wait for his validation; you are worthy in your own right.)

AmICrazyorWhat2 · 02/10/2020 14:24

Totally agree with @CatMagic’s post. Being diagnosed with a condition doesn’t give anyone an excuse not to try and grow and improve throughout their life, especially if their behavior is affecting their loved ones.

Stand up to him, OP, you deserve his respect. Also agree that quoting random Latin isn’t some amazing achievement. It’s just memorizing, nothing special!

PullTheBricksDown · 02/10/2020 14:53

He is extremely well-read in history, latin etc. The type of person who can pull obscure quotes out of his sleeve and recite paragraphs from famous literature.

Doesn't sound as though he's ever understood any of it, though, given that one of the key benefits of studying great literature is meant to be a better understanding of people's motivations, feelings and actions, enlarging your empathy with those around you. Epic fail there on his part!

SBTLove · 02/10/2020 15:01

ADHD does not make you an arrogant selfish twat, sounds like this has been his excuse for his deplorable attitude and treatment of you.
My son has Aspergers and is very kind and considerate, he knows what he likes and dislikes and has learned over the years to
curb some of his abrupt behaviour, yes he is super intelligent 😉😁
Having any condition is not an excuse to
be vile, he’s ‘intelligent’ enough to know he’s being nasty to you.

feelingsomewhatlost · 02/10/2020 15:04

I have ADHD and I promise you I wouldn't dream of being such an uncaring partner –my sister also has it and while she misses the mark sometimes (will walk off if something bores her) she is also a very encouraging, supportive person. Please don't write it off as something 'he can't control' or something he's born with, he's making a conscious decision to be an unsupportive arse!!

Londonmummy66 · 02/10/2020 16:08

A good memory simply makes him a more advanced form of parrot frankly. It's not the ability to learn and regurgitate facts quickly that makes intelligence so much as the ability to use and apply the facts to a set of circumstances. No one would ever get a good grade in a history degree simply by regurgitating a detailed chronology.

I expect that you sometimes take longer to come to a conclusion than your DH because he simply comes out with the obvious whereas you think around a question (which takes longer as you are processing more not because he is quicker than you - you are probably considering angles he simply isn't aware exist).

I suspect that there is an element of wanting to be the "mighty man" in the scenario coupled with a fair helping of jealousy that you have been more (probably a lot more) successful than him.

newnameforthis123 · 02/10/2020 17:37

As others have said, I have ADHD (and bipolar) but it doesn't make me a cunt or a bully. Your husband is behaving in a way that suggests he is both of those things and you are both excusing that due to his diagnosis. It does people with those diagnoses a disservice to be honest as being an adult belittling people and systematically tearing down their confidence isn't a feature of ADHD...

ithinkiveseenthisfilmbefore · 02/10/2020 18:00

He's a self-centred dick, OP.

ADHD is completely irrelevant.

He also sounds like he's memorised a few bits here and there to impress people; trick pony, not necessarily analytically clever.

You have to decide if you want to spend your life being belittled by a self absorbed dick. Life is short.

Feellikedancingyeah · 02/10/2020 18:09

It's nothing to do with ADHD. It is a wide spectrum

movingmuddle · 03/10/2020 09:30

if I mention I have something exciting coming up that I'm feeling good about he will insist on "advising me" despite it not being a subject he knows much about

Sometimes I'll offer an opinion on something and it's dismissed. A well-respected male friend might offer the same opinion a few weeks later and DH will change his mind.

So, he's a mansplainng, sexist arse?

His issue isn't ADHD, it's sexism. He doesn't see you as his equal because you're a woman. Nothing you can do will be good enough. Accepting you as equal to him would mean his status would be diminished to equal to a mere woman, which would be humiliating. He'll hold you down, in his perception, to keep himself top dog.

Was his education mainly single sex? Have you noticed sexist views towards women in other situations?

CharlieD2020 · 03/10/2020 09:56

OP, I just wanted to leave a message to say you sound wonderful! So many of the threads on MN get full of messages from people saying 'leave him', 'he is a *', but really, what can we all know after such a tiny insight into your life and relationship. It really troubles me how people are saying things like 'the cure is divorce', as if divorce makes everything better and is a quick fix. Your OH clearly has lovely traits as well as these more challenging ones, and it's great that you can see and celebrate those too. I would be wanting to challenge your OP on some of these statements he is saying and explaining how you are feeling when he says them. And if he isn't receptive, perhaps consider marriage counselling so you can both get outside wisdom. But you sound great, and I hope other people's condemnation and judgement on your OP doesn't get in your ears too much. You are aware of the challenges you are facing together, but it's great that you are obviously a proactive and driven person and this will help you address these problems together and move forward hopefully stronger Flowers

Kandinsko · 03/10/2020 16:36

Great message from @CharlieD2020

If everyone always followed MN advice we’d all be single with no friends and no contact with any family members.

KatySun · 03/10/2020 18:00

Well, some of us are out of abusive marriages and VERY glad we are.
Whether one counts constantly being put down as abuse is another matter, but sometimes leaving really is the best option! Clearly not an option the OP wishes to take, fair enough, but one really should not have to be explaining to one’s supposed life partner that constant put-downs and belittling is not acceptable. I would be really surprised if she has not tried that already.

Does he do it to everyone or just her? That is the key question, I think.

Mellonsprite · 03/10/2020 18:06

I’m sorry but he sounds like a pompous, insufferable bore, and that’s not from ( just ) ADHD.
Do you ever challenge him on these belittling comments or just accept them from him?

mathanxiety · 03/10/2020 18:11

It really troubles me how people are saying things like 'the cure is divorce', as if divorce makes everything better and is a quick fix.

Straw man there.

Nobody is saying divorce makes everything better /is a quick fix.

What divorce does is solve the problems that come with living with an arsehole. You can post that word here btw.

The legal process takes a certain amount of time. People take that into account when embarking on it. Associated details like finding somewhere else to live, perhaps selling the marital home, etc, also take a certain amount of time. Anyone of average intelligence can understand that too.

In the end, with your decree final, you don't have to live with someone who deliberately causes you great unhappiness. The rest of your life is yours to live without a heckler, a critic, an underminer.

Wrt counselling - no amount of drive and ability on the part of one person in a relationship is going to help the other to change his personality and adjust his expectation of what a relationship offers to him. Some people are in a relationship to hurt others for their own amusement.

dottiedodah · 03/10/2020 19:00

He sounds like he is jealous of you!

Comtesse · 03/10/2020 19:40

He sounds like a mansplaining insecure nobber. I don’t know that adhd or asd have anything to do with this behaviour.