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ADHD husband has classed me as "unexceptional"

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Garfield4321 · 01/10/2020 21:05

My husband was diagnosed with ADHD as a child. Like many he grew out of some of the more well-known ADHD traits but now as an adult in his early thirties he still exhibits strong ADHD characteristics such as being extremely bright, a tendency to obsess over specific hobbies or subjects of interest, impulsiveness, an inability to focus or feign curiosity in anything that he doesn't consider interesting. If I ask a relative what they've been up to and they start talking about a hobby of their own which bores DH for example, he will simply walk away from the conversation without realising how rude he is being.

DH is a quick-thinker, charismatic, confident and has excelled in his vocation, albeit he achieved quite average grades throughout school and university. He has a close-knit group of friends many of whom either share some of his characteristics or, at the very least, share the same hobby. He can talk for hours with these friends and is animated, interested and complimentary.

I, on the other hand, am your textbook under-confident over-achiever in the sense that it was ingrained in me to work hard and as a result I have an excellent academic history despite probably being of probably quite average intelligence. I'm business-minded, emotionally intelligent and have a strong aptitude for problem-solving.....but I cannot recite Homer's Odyssey backwards or code a computer.

What bothers me is that I feel DH has written me off as unexceptional and, therefore, unworthy.

Any effort made to learn a new skill such as an instrument or a language is met with scepticism and disinterest. I managed to learn an instrument to exam-level in a matter of months but despite hearing me practice daily I don't think I ever heard DH say "that sounded really good". The one thing I remember is telling him I wanted to one-day learn a piece of music by X-musician and him replying that I would never be able to play to a high enough standard.

I also participate in a very challenging sporting activity and feel demeaned and disrespected when something the equivalent of running a marathon is referred to as my "little walk".

He expresses no interest in my hobbies or passions and dismisses my job as a menial glorified-admin role.

I suppose I just feel that I'm never "special" enough to be worthy of his respect.

On the flip side he can be extremely loving, affectionate, kind and considerate. I don't doubt that he loves me and he has a number of very attractive qualities.

Do I have unrealistic expectations? Is it childish of me to want my DH to occasionally give me a big smile and a "that was brilliant" or acknowledge my successes on the rare occasion when I can do something better than he can?

How much of this just goes hand-in-hand with his ADHD diagnosis in which case surely I should just accept that I can't change anything?

I don't need to be petted on the head like a puppy. I'd just like my DH to admire me for my capabilities for once.

OP posts:
Paleninteresting · 01/10/2020 22:58

It sounds like he has exceptional memory and recall. Good for him. Higher order cognitive functions, such as problem solving, learning a musical language and developing empathy, not so much.

It’s just memory.

Phrowzunn · 01/10/2020 22:59

My DH is very intelligent and accomplished and constantly pushing himself to achieve more. I on the other hand am ‘just’ a SAHM. He often tells me what a brilliant mother I am and what a great job I’m doing and how wonderful our children are because of me. He frequently calls me ‘superwoman’ just for getting the house cleaned and tidied with two little kids in tow. Your ‘partner’ sounds horrible to be honest and it’s sad that you sound like you’re striving to ‘better’ yourself just in order to try and impress him.

FortunesFave · 01/10/2020 22:59

My DD has ADHD and yes, she's popular and charismatic, very funny... bright and skilled in some areas but she's also incredibly sensitive and kind.

I think your husband is just mean!

Paleninteresting · 01/10/2020 23:00

X post 😃

Tzigane · 01/10/2020 23:00

OP do you notice how you big up his intelligence and put your own down?

By the sound of it you did better than him academically. Perhaps this is the source of his insecurity?

lottiegarbanzo · 01/10/2020 23:00

Yeah, just sounds like bog standard sexism really.

Did he grow up being told he was marvellous? Thinking girls were a bit crap? Learning that putting himself first was just fine and dandy?

Tzigane · 01/10/2020 23:03

@lottiegarbanzo

Yeah, just sounds like bog standard sexism really.

Did he grow up being told he was marvellous? Thinking girls were a bit crap? Learning that putting himself first was just fine and dandy?

Sadly. Sexist, self-obsessed and competitive. Lucky OP!
PenfoldPenny · 01/10/2020 23:04

As someone above said............ sounds a lot like ASD to me tbh.

canigooutyet · 01/10/2020 23:06

Have you spoken to him about how he makes you feel?

Getting help and support back then was incredibly difficult with adhd. Parents and schools were generally left to get on with things. From some in society it was a case of well what can you do, it's adhd. There was also a lot of self diagnosis going on at the time. There was also a lot of stigma about the diagnosis because it was the "naughty" thing and bad behaviour was kind of expected.

I'm not making excuses because of the adhd specifically, but if he wasn't taught as a child how do deal with these things then he wouldn't automatically just get it.

Even as an adult he can request to be diagnosed, I would suggest this. As you are aware there are crossovers in a number of things under the asd umbrella. Regardless of his diagnosis there will be something available to help him with his social side.

You mention that he's also very intelligent. IQ and adhd can be separated from each other. Those with a higher IQ can be socially dysfunctional.

As for suggestions it's not adhd. A part of the condition includes an inability to focus or prioritise. If you're not interested in a conversation it's hard to stay focused. My. adult ds walks away if he's not interested. because if he stays he finds it hard to be "normal" and not fidget and keep control of himself to not draw attention to himself.

The. only way op will know if he's simply an arsehole or it's down to coping skills is to talk to him about it all.

PenfoldPenny · 01/10/2020 23:07

Seeing all the comments saying he sounds mean and unkind are sad to see as.......... if he is on the spectrum he probably isnt even vaguely aware of how his behaviour/comments are upsetting for you/others around him. Id look into ASD just to rule it out.

lottiegarbanzo · 01/10/2020 23:07

Oh and if he has a great memory but can't do exams - his mediocre academic performance - that's because he can't organise information effectively, assemble an argument, offer an incisive assessment of the material he remembers, comprehend its implications, or, in simple terms, make sense of what he knows.

That is not impressive at all. Performing parrots are fun but not clever.

Scweltish · 01/10/2020 23:07

@Garfield4321

Thank you everyone.

To address a couple of points:-

Yes, I do mean ADHD and not ASD. There is some overlap between behaviours so I can see why the question might be raised.

To those being kind enough to say it sounds like it's me who is the bright one and not him, that's very nice but not true. I'm not as sharp or quick-witted as he is. He is extremely well-read in history, latin etc. The type of person who can pull obscure quotes out of his sleeve and recite paragraphs from famous literature.

I don't know if there is any jealousy but I do feel that he doesn't like to see me succeed sometimes and it makes me doubt myself. For example if I mention I have something exciting coming up that I'm feeling good about he will insist on "advising me" despite it not being a subject he knows much about.

Sometimes I'll offer an opinion on something and it's dismissed. A well-respected male friend might offer the same opinion a few weeks later and DH will change his mind.

I am making him sound awful but he isn't. If it were as easy as him making me unhappy and me leaving, I would have. I love him because there is so much worth loving about him. He is generous with his time and affection, I just wish he would give me credit sometimes.

Your latest post has just made him sound more awful. I agree with pp that you sound amazing. Your worthiness isn’t based on your IQ btw. I think you deserve more than this. Why do you think that it’s ok that he thinks your dreams and achievements are shit, until a random other person says they’re good? I did think before that he was putting you down for him to feel better about himself. Do you think that maybe he’s so arrogant that he needs other people to validate you so you’re good enough for him?
Tzigane · 01/10/2020 23:09

I find it hard to focus and concentrate, I didn't get much support when I was young. But I don't walk away from people who bore me because I'm not a twat.

CiCiFreakingBabcock · 01/10/2020 23:17

@Princessdebthe1st

Dear OP,

Do you have or are you planning to have children? If either answer is yes how will you feel if your DH make your DC feel like they are ‘unexceptional’, that they can’t achieve anything worthy of praise? Would that be OK? If not, why is it OK for you?

This.

You say he has a number of redeeming qualities - are they enough to counter the fact that he can't be your cheerleader (for whatever reason; I suspect it's nothing to do with his ADHD, he's just a knob) and makes you feel like shit? It sounds like a tough situation.

SoulofanAggron · 01/10/2020 23:29

Sometimes I'll offer an opinion on something and it's dismissed. A well-respected male friend might offer the same opinion a few weeks later and DH will change his mind.

So as PP's said, he's a misogynist then. That won't help how he feels about you and treats you. Sad

StormTreader · 01/10/2020 23:31

I'm yet to see you say anything that shows he values you more than he would a pet - hes "generous with his time and affection", like you are with a pet or a child.

It doesn't sound to me like he respects you at all, and it sounds like there's an awful lot about you to respect - he might put down your accomplishments but that doesn't mean they didn't happen and didn't take time and effort for you to achieve. I used to have an ex who was nice enough but had to be just a little better than whoever he was dating. He dated a really sporty girl once and almost killed himself going from no gym to trying to run longer than her in a month.

Frankly I respect someone who learns an instrument and runs a marathon a heck of a lot more than someone who can speak Latin - sounds like hes "penis a iure regiis" or according to Google Translate, "a right royal penis". :D

namechange20202020 · 01/10/2020 23:38

I think it's the cruellest thing to be belittled. And I was belittled for long enough.

At some stage op, you need to surround yourself with people who will ain't your praises.

PersonaNonGarter · 01/10/2020 23:43

Your DH is a self-absorbed knob end, sorry. I am not sure why you are giving him such a free pass with the ADHD stuff.

He belittles you in order to magnify himself. And those relatives he walks off from, he has no manners for them. He would if they were clients though, right? He can (and does) choose his behaviour.

You need to retrain, be amazing in your career and see this for what it is. Pulling quotes out etc - it’s nothing. You have much more.

LovelyLovelyMe · 01/10/2020 23:46

He sounds pretty rude-getting up and walking away from your relatives if he doesn't think they're interesting. That really is just pig ignorant. I bet more people think he's a fart in a bottle than think he's charismatic!

He's not clever-he only got average marks at school and college- so, that's what he is: average. Nothing wrong with that-most of us are-but like a lot of shit bricks, he can't come to terms with it because it doesn't match the image of who he would like to be.

If you think he's a catch, then great and thanks from the rest of us for taking him out of the pool.

WhenAWrenVisits · 01/10/2020 23:49

Well this explains why you are lacking in confidence. Having to listen to him all the time will take its toll.

Storyoftonight · 01/10/2020 23:51

@AntiSocialInjusticePacifist

Sweet bloody Christmas OP you sound more like the exceptional one in this equation! You sound like a total badass!!
Off topic but I'm stealing that

Sweet bloody Christmas 🤣🤣

OP, I agree with PP. Nobody should feel unappreciated. Ever.

TitsOutForHarambe · 01/10/2020 23:51

He's being a dickhead. ADHD doesn't make you tell your wife that she will never be a particular standard at an instrument, or refer to her marathon training as her "little walk".

He's deliberately undermining you and pushing you down. I can't offer any decent reasons as to why, as it would just be random conjecture from a stranger on the internet, but perhaps you could confide in someone you know who could shed some light on it.

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 02/10/2020 00:00

I once had an exceptionally rude partner that seemed to think being dyslexic excused anything,
It didn't.

Tigerbeer · 02/10/2020 00:12

I have ADHD and treat my DP well. If I ever am too blunt then I usually realise and apologise.

He will sometimes get insecure and say I am much more intelligent than him. That isn’t true though, I just have a very good memory and my mind works fast. It doesn’t really mean anything.

He is much much better at sporting activities than I am, for example, and more patience with others - and he can make things that I never ever could. I do praise him when he achieves anything that is important to him, and notice his interests, because I love him and he does the same for me.

I don’t like the sound of your DH very much. He sounds like he deliberately belittles you.

MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 02/10/2020 00:14

@RattleOfBars

ADHD usually goes hand in hand with a lack of empathy and being able to view things through another’s eyes. I don’t think he can help not being interested in your hobbies or work.

ADHD in women is a bit different, we have more receptor cells in our brains that allow us to mirror socially acceptable behaviours.

I would tell him clearly and concisely what you need from him.

Sorry are you able to say where you got this information from? I've not heard this before and don't believe it to be true but if it is I'd be interested to know more.
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