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ADHD husband has classed me as "unexceptional"

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Garfield4321 · 01/10/2020 21:05

My husband was diagnosed with ADHD as a child. Like many he grew out of some of the more well-known ADHD traits but now as an adult in his early thirties he still exhibits strong ADHD characteristics such as being extremely bright, a tendency to obsess over specific hobbies or subjects of interest, impulsiveness, an inability to focus or feign curiosity in anything that he doesn't consider interesting. If I ask a relative what they've been up to and they start talking about a hobby of their own which bores DH for example, he will simply walk away from the conversation without realising how rude he is being.

DH is a quick-thinker, charismatic, confident and has excelled in his vocation, albeit he achieved quite average grades throughout school and university. He has a close-knit group of friends many of whom either share some of his characteristics or, at the very least, share the same hobby. He can talk for hours with these friends and is animated, interested and complimentary.

I, on the other hand, am your textbook under-confident over-achiever in the sense that it was ingrained in me to work hard and as a result I have an excellent academic history despite probably being of probably quite average intelligence. I'm business-minded, emotionally intelligent and have a strong aptitude for problem-solving.....but I cannot recite Homer's Odyssey backwards or code a computer.

What bothers me is that I feel DH has written me off as unexceptional and, therefore, unworthy.

Any effort made to learn a new skill such as an instrument or a language is met with scepticism and disinterest. I managed to learn an instrument to exam-level in a matter of months but despite hearing me practice daily I don't think I ever heard DH say "that sounded really good". The one thing I remember is telling him I wanted to one-day learn a piece of music by X-musician and him replying that I would never be able to play to a high enough standard.

I also participate in a very challenging sporting activity and feel demeaned and disrespected when something the equivalent of running a marathon is referred to as my "little walk".

He expresses no interest in my hobbies or passions and dismisses my job as a menial glorified-admin role.

I suppose I just feel that I'm never "special" enough to be worthy of his respect.

On the flip side he can be extremely loving, affectionate, kind and considerate. I don't doubt that he loves me and he has a number of very attractive qualities.

Do I have unrealistic expectations? Is it childish of me to want my DH to occasionally give me a big smile and a "that was brilliant" or acknowledge my successes on the rare occasion when I can do something better than he can?

How much of this just goes hand-in-hand with his ADHD diagnosis in which case surely I should just accept that I can't change anything?

I don't need to be petted on the head like a puppy. I'd just like my DH to admire me for my capabilities for once.

OP posts:
Devlesko · 01/10/2020 22:19

I have ADHD and in thirty years have never treated my dh like that.
Yours is a knob, sorry.

NickMyLipple · 01/10/2020 22:20

Can you gently give him some feedback?

I have ADHD and I often don't realise things like this.

I've worked in senior management for several years and in my first job managing people, one of my team asked me one day "can I please have some gratitude for the work I do? Our last boss used to thank us for our hard work at the end of each day".

That's stayed with me through my career and I ALWAYS now thank my team for their effort and time as I've realised it makes them feel appreciated. I might have gone on never doing this if my team member hadn't have said anything.

pallisers · 01/10/2020 22:21

honestly, he is envious of you and doesn't want you to be successful. Deep down that is what he feels. He wants to be top dog, the clever, charasmatic one and he wants you to be the audience.

We are only getting a snapshot here. Maybe this only happens a tiny percentage of the time. Maybe most of the time he is lovely and supportive and tells you how wonderful you are and how proud he is of you. Maybe it happens all the time. Maybe he NEVER gives you credit for anything - your talents, your achievements, you innate qualities - all the reasons he should love you.

What you have written about him - being quick-witted and funny and well read ... has he ever said something similarly complimentary about you? does he even think it?

jamaisjedors · 01/10/2020 22:22

God that sounds hard and I have to say he sounds like my ex who was delighted with my achievements until I overtook him.

Then lots of little put downs like your DJ.

As others have said he should think you are brilliant and the best person he knows. It doesn't sound like he does. 😨

lottiegarbanzo · 01/10/2020 22:22

What's so special about him and everything he does though? Is he a top brain surgeon / mathematician / world-saving diplomat? (clearly not the latter!). Is he on the British triathlon, rugby or canoeing team, for example?

It's not clear from what you say that his job or hobby is any 'better' or any more difficult than yours. It just sounds as though he's more confident, loves what he does and is a bit of a cocky arse, with no tact or manners and a superiority complex.

His lack of manners and learned social skills (when to compliment etc) will be more to do with his upbringing than anything else. People who care about being kind and about what others think of them, do make up for poor family-based learning in young adulthood though.

His 'tell it as he sees it', naturally negative, verging on sarcastic approach is a habit, no more, no less. It has been learned and could be unlearned, if he wanted to 'make friends and influence people' more successfully in general, as well as maintain his relationship with you, in particular.

With practising any new behaviour, feeling it often follows from doing it, not the other way around.

RobynNora · 01/10/2020 22:23

He also sounds like a card carrying sexist from your more recent comment! I’d be inclined to point him to some feminist reading

movingmuddle · 01/10/2020 22:23

If I ask a relative what they've been up to and they start talking about a hobby of their own which bores DH for example, he will simply walk away from the conversation without realising how rude he is being

This bit sounds more like ASD than ADHD to me.

(I have ADHD and have family members with ASD).

MsTSwift · 01/10/2020 22:23

Why is your narrative as a couple that he is “exceptionally bright” despite average academics yet your good results are just because you “work hard” but you yourself are average?! Reality speaks for itself. It’s annoying to read! He is the thick one not you

Chocolate1984 · 01/10/2020 22:24

My older brother had ADHD and has never acted anything like your husband. My nephew has ADHD too and he isn't horrible either.

My daughter has ASD and he sounds more like her.

Highfalutinlootin · 01/10/2020 22:29

OP, gently, you sound a bit low self esteem, and I wonder if it's due to years of feeling second fiddle to your husband. He does not deserve the pedestal you've put him on. Raw intelligence is clearly not everything in life or you wouldn't be feeling bad about his behavior. Your husband sounds like an emotional clod with no respect for you. I couldn't be with someone like that even if they were a Nobel prize winner. You do not exist on earth merely to appreciate the brilliance of someone else.

And in fact, I think people like you who work hard and are ambitious are far more interesting and impressive. You deserve someone who appreciates you, not tolerates you or takes you for granted. How sad for you, OP. You sound great.

Battlestaricedcoffee · 01/10/2020 22:30

He sounds like a dick and I think you are being very generous to blame is very poor behaviour on adhd.

Wakeoff · 01/10/2020 22:34

It sounds like he is battering your confidence and whittling it away under the guise of his ADHD.

Iggypoppie · 01/10/2020 22:36

@AudTheDeepMinded

Sounds more like your common or garden misogynist to me.
Was just thinking that too, sadly
SoulofanAggron · 01/10/2020 22:39

It's not unusual for people to have a mixture of ADHD and ASD/autistic traits (I have both ADHD and autistic traits.) It can be disguised in those of us who are extroverts, or have both.

But it doesn't really matter what is causing him to be this way, what matters is he's being a twat.

As @NickMyLipple says, some of us are constantly trying to improve ourselves, and will respond to feedback. Unfortunately, I think that's quite rare in people in general.

Have you tried telling him what he's doing, and if so, how does he respond/act as a result?

I think whether he listens to what you're not happy with/things he could improve and tries to change, could determine how you feel about being married to him and what you decide to do.

If he can't be arsed to even try to change things like this for you then he doesn't deserve you.

Lilymossflower · 01/10/2020 22:40

Adhd has nothing to do with it

He is being a dick

He knows how it makes you feel because adhd or not he's a grown man and he has the ability to know

I wouldn't write off that he does it to make you feel like shit tbh

You deserve to be supported in your interests even if he isnt interested in them
You sound like a really clever and skilled person op , be proud of yourself! X

Princessdebthe1st · 01/10/2020 22:41

Dear OP,

Do you have or are you planning to have children? If either answer is yes how will you feel if your DH make your DC feel like they are ‘unexceptional’, that they can’t achieve anything worthy of praise? Would that be OK? If not, why is it OK for you?

Lilymossflower · 01/10/2020 22:45

Also, if he had ASD that would also have nothing to do with it

I have ASD and I am still aware of what is rude or not and able to behave accordingly.
Same for friends and others I know with asd

However I have also encountered narsististic men who also have ASD and it's always the asd that is used as the excuse for there shitty behaviour. It's not. It's the narsisism.

Eddielzzard · 01/10/2020 22:47

I couldn't get over the lack of respect. It's fundamental to what I need.

I also don't think it's right to excuse this behaviour as part of his ADHD. And he mansplains. Urgh enough said.

MiniMum97 · 01/10/2020 22:49

@Lilymossflower

Also, if he had ASD that would also have nothing to do with it

I have ASD and I am still aware of what is rude or not and able to behave accordingly.
Same for friends and others I know with asd

However I have also encountered narsististic men who also have ASD and it's always the asd that is used as the excuse for there shitty behaviour. It's not. It's the narsisism.

Good for you. A lot of people with ASC do not know when they are being rude. Especially if undiagnosed and they've never had it pointed out to them so they know what to look for.
TestingTestingWonTooFree · 01/10/2020 22:50

You’re right OP, he does sound awful.

Tzigane · 01/10/2020 22:52

I have ADHD, it's nothing to do with that.

I think he's just self-obsessed and competitive. It's not that what you do is

Tzigane · 01/10/2020 22:53

...not good enough, it's that's it is good and he belittles you for it to keep you in your place.

MinesaBottle · 01/10/2020 22:56

I wonder if he’s a bit envious of your ability to apply yourself and learn so fast? I have ADHD, DH doesn’t and the way he can set himself to something - even something boring - and do a thorough job of it amazes me! I am also in awe of how he can focus on a conversation, actually listen and not be coming out of his skin with boredom Grin However, I don’t think I’m better than him, I’m just different. He has his strengths and I have mine - he can’t make a decision to save his life whereas my impulsivity has saved the day a few times. Your DH sounds a bit of a knob and as pps have pointed out that’s nothing to do with ADHD.

I do think though that as people with ADHD we’re often made to feel a bit inadequate, lazy, flaky etc and that doesn’t go along with his wanting to see himself as this brilliant person with you his adoring audience. That’s his issue to sort out though and he shouldn’t be making you feel bad.

He just sounds really rude...I’d never just walk away from a conversation. Maybe as women, as we’re socialized to be nice and supportive etc, even with ADHD we know not to do stuff like that whereas male socialization encourages them to centre their wants.

MinesaBottle · 01/10/2020 22:57

Sorry, rambling a bit there...that’s ADHD for you!!

Coyoacan · 01/10/2020 22:58

I love mumsnet on threads like this.

I'm sorry but quoting latin and paragraphs from books means he has a good memory, not that he is particularly intelligent.

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