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To think new laws are needed ASAP to protect Mrs Hinch and other influencers

479 replies

vkocy · 01/10/2020 20:40

Mrs Hinch has the number 1 best selling book at the moment where she goes into the heartbreaking trolling she received on tattle. They've been critical at everything from her weight, to her parenting and how her husband looks. It's virtually broken her at times and she felt like quiting the internet all together.

Why isn't this illegal today? Why do people think it's acceptable to give harrasment and hate speech because someone makes their money on social media. In no other workplace would this be accepted. Have people forgotten that Caroline Flack took her own life and nothing has changed :(

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ThousandsAreSailing · 01/10/2020 22:13

Perhaps she could form a little support group with SBS

Someone1987 · 01/10/2020 22:13

@thefairycaravan totally agree

Fedupoftheworld · 01/10/2020 22:13

Nobody cares.
Tattle is just an opinion, it’s not bullying or abusive. You can’t silence people just because you don’t like their opinion. Hmm

notso · 01/10/2020 22:14

It's a big ridiculous circle.
Posters on Tattle follow Mrs Hinch in order to complain about her.
Mrs Hinch reads Tattle in order to have something to write/post about.
Both parties could chose not to read what the other posts, but they don't.

FlyingPandas · 01/10/2020 22:15

I would say that we need laws ASAP to protect people from influencers.They are a complete scourge of modern society.

As others have said, there are too many vulnerable people - especially teenagers - whose mental health is adversely affected by these idiots. Influencers are brutal, ruthless, greedy, selfish individuals who deliberately exploit vulnerable people for their own financial gains. They have no interest in anything other than making money and massaging their own voracious egos. And then they cry troll if anyone dares to express a negative opinion.

Genuine trolling is horrific and should quite rightly be illegal but the problem with influencers is that their egos are so massive, their greed so all consuming and their moral compasses so utterly absent that they perceive anything other than sycophantic adoration as "trolling".

I would quite like a new law to made "social media influencing" illegal, tbh, but I realise it ain't gonna happen...

pollypork · 01/10/2020 22:15

It seems infantile to me - wouldn't the 'followers' be better living their own lives than following these nonentities?

This! I just don't get it (no longer use insta). What is interesting about watching someone else talk about their kids or watch them clean. I just don't get it.

beachedwhales · 01/10/2020 22:17

There is no law which says I can't say that I think the likes of Mrs Hinch and her followers need to get a life

pollypork · 01/10/2020 22:17

Some of the teen girls I mentioned upthread watch people unbox or show off their shopping. Like wtf 😂😂

Hokeywokey · 01/10/2020 22:18

@pollypork

Also wondered how people have the time to spend bitching about someone they don’t know who they clearly hate.

Agree but also don't understand how people like the OP have the time to start threads defending their idols. These people are not your friends!!!

I find the obsession with influencers very odd. The same sort of people who spend hours talking about Meghan Markle.

Tattle is a gossip site, full of bitching women as far as I can see.

ClarencesMum · 01/10/2020 22:19

I'm scared to go down the SBS road... what is going on there? I followed her a while ago on the recommendation of Gemma from TOMM and fancied a stylist email but never did.

DeRigueurMortis · 01/10/2020 22:20

@ClarencesMum

I'm scared to go down the SBS road... what is going on there? I followed her a while ago on the recommendation of Gemma from TOMM and fancied a stylist email but never did.
Just do a search on the OP's threads and you'll see what the fuss is about.
canigooutyet · 01/10/2020 22:21

There does need to be laws.
It should be standard for them to let viewers know about their investors for that post or whatever.
Working laws that are in place to protect children should be investigated more.
Those begging for money should have to show where that money went.

I found out last year someone I know who is easily led donated thousands years ago for a book to be published and has given thousands more since. He is still waiting for a financial breakdown of where the book money went. He genuinely thought all these years she was his friend as they'd know each other beforehand.

Lavanderrose · 01/10/2020 22:21

The damage from tattle is probably nothing compared to the amount of cleaning products she’s single handily influenced people to buy and use, which leads to pollution and waste in our environment.

Some influencers are great because they actually shed light on different topics, sexism, racism, lots of important issues whilst making their money.

Others, like Mrs Hinch are literally walking advertisements so j can see why some may criticise. But I’m sure that for every 1 tattler, there are 100 positives.

Nomorepies · 01/10/2020 22:24

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jerometheturnipking · 01/10/2020 22:25

Yabu on the basis that she’s a one-woman environmental disaster.

I take it “author” is being used in the very loosest sense of the word too?

canigooutyet · 01/10/2020 22:26

And some of the gamer influencers should also be taken off the air. Although noticed since that farce of a show some did the other year, the obsession for them seems to have dwindled. Used to be endless threads about them

Burnout101 · 01/10/2020 22:28

I agree that harassment/death threats/abuse/hate crime should be illegal and they already are, there's even malicious communications law so I'm not sure what else you're wanting in place to protect influencers, force everyone to worship them?

I notice there's always someone asking for us to be kind to influencers or moderate criticism of them (criticism, not abuse or hate speech, that's already covered as above) - so we're being asked to obey rules about what we can say to them, when did they have to agree anything about what they talk about or spout? Surely it works both ways, if they want to control what people say about them then they should ask for concensus on what they're allowed to post, no? Bet they'd LOVE that!

Newschapter · 01/10/2020 22:28

I was reading tattle earlier.

Nobody trolled hinch on there. They called out her lies and her fakeness.

How is she relateable? She pretended she had a great life after her baby was born, was able to keep on top of housework and do her lists.... Made people feel inadequate if they couldn't do the same...then when she needs to sell a book said she had PND.

Said she struggled to conceive...I think the maths belies that one!

And then all this "I have had my say...!" What's that all about? What has she said?

She's just a caricature.....

@vkocy - are you ok Hun?

spongedog · 01/10/2020 22:32

Have people forgotten that Caroline Flack took her own life and nothing has changed

I think you have forgotten that CF was an alleged domestic abuser. No thanks. Not near me.

pollypork · 01/10/2020 22:33

I notice there's always someone asking for us to be kind to influencers

It's BS, it simply means don't criticise. Same with the don't follow. I don't follow the Kardashian's but I will absolutely criticise their promotion of weight loss products, materialism, blackfishing etc.

marniedes · 01/10/2020 22:37

@Rhine

Mrs Hinch is awful. All ‘influencers’ are pathetic actually and need to get proper jobs.

YABU.

But it is a proper job. Like it or not Instagram "influencers" are working in marketing. Where advertising budgets would have gone to making adverts and putting them on tv etc this is now how companies advertise. I hate this argument of freebies or get a job - they aren't freebies they are advertising a product!!! For money. Why's that so hard to understand?
marniedes · 01/10/2020 22:37

@Rhine

Mrs Hinch is awful. All ‘influencers’ are pathetic actually and need to get proper jobs.

YABU.

But it is a proper job. Like it or not Instagram "influencers" are working in marketing. Where advertising budgets would have gone to making adverts and putting them on tv etc this is now how companies advertise. I hate this argument of freebies or get a job - they aren't freebies they are advertising a product!!! For money. Why's that so hard to understand?
1Morewineplease · 01/10/2020 22:39

I strongly suspect that Mrs Hinch is more than ok.
If she genuinely believed that people were attacking her and her family , then she would abandon her online presence.

But she hasn't, because she needs her online presence and needs the praise, hits, adulation etc... as it augments her earning power.

SoulofanAggron · 01/10/2020 22:43

Why isn't this illegal today?

Where would you draw the line? It's free speech. As long as they're not threatening to kill people or anything it can't be illegal.

Have people forgotten that Caroline Flack took her own life and nothing has changed

Caroline Fleck had pre-existing mental health problems. She was also upset because of the police involvement/possible court case about her alleged behaviour etc.

Spiderbaby8 · 01/10/2020 22:46

It's BS, it simply means don't criticise. Same with the don't follow. I don't follow the Kardashian's but I will absolutely criticise their promotion of weight loss products, materialism, blackfishing etc.

I will criticise people like Kardashians and that whole culture, and I understand why people will criticise influencers like Miss Hinch, but I think it's a bit different from the weird way people on that site will obsessively follow these people and spend so much time going over every detail. It's weird af

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