To think new laws are needed ASAP to protect Mrs Hinch and other influencers

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Mrs Hinch has the number 1 best selling book at the moment where she goes into the heartbreaking trolling she received on tattle. They've been critical at everything from her weight, to her parenting and how her husband looks. It's virtually broken her at times and she felt like quiting the internet all together.

Why isn't this illegal today? Why do people think it's acceptable to give harrasment and hate speech because someone makes their money on social media. In no other workplace would this be accepted. Have people forgotten that Caroline Flack took her own life and nothing has changed :(

How would that even work?

You arent allowed to say anything derogatory about people with 200000 followers? Or is it people who post more than 5 times a day? Someone who puts 'influencer' on their CV? What would the cut off be?

Threats are already illegal, saying that someones a bit ugly in your opinion isn't illegal.

I agree, people shouldn't get abused in the workplace because it is 'a part of their job'. The thing is, social media isn't a workplace and you have a choice to participate. Trolls are neither customers or colleagues, so unless it is actual hate speech there is nothing you can do.

Mrs Hinch is that you?

That said I agree some things sound bitter but mostly they speak the truth.
Mrs Hinch is undeniably transparent and I feel sorry for her son.

Oh come on! She's just using Tattle for sympathy and you're absolutely buying into it.

She doesn't have to go and read all the negative stuff about herself and I'm sorry but if she's soooo anxious and knows that that kind of shit makes her even worse then more fool her to be quite honest.

I used to like her but not anymore and a majority of the stuff on tattle is bang on. As it is with a lot of "influencers".

@Pukkatea

I will add that influencers are directly responsible, through the selling of their fake perfect lives, for the poor mental health of many young people. I have no time for them.

Agreed. They don't care much for the people they dupe into thinking their own life is substandard and meaningless against theirs.

I guess if she got a real job then she'd be less open to criticism.
Or maybe not, because that's how real life works (without having a load of freebies thrown in).

I mostly avoid "influencers" because life's too short but I've heard of Mrs Hinch. I had no real opinion about her until this thread and now think that if she doesn't want to hear shit about her it's quite easy to avoid Tattle which is clearly bitchy as hell but people gonna bitch. Clearly, she's just trying to make her book a bit juicier and play the victim because that sells well. My opinion of her now is that she's clearly a savvy businesswoman and still not someone I have any interest in.

Seriously, how is it trolling when it's done behind your back? I've always been of the opinion that I have no fucks to give about what people say behind my back because, yet again, life is too fucking short.

Mrs Hinch has the number 1 best selling book at the moment

I did enjoy this part of the op though. Not Mrs Hinch has a book out.... its Mrs Hinch has the number one best selling book 😂😂😂

Why does Caroline Flack always get dragged up? It's sad that she took her own life and all but surely an alleged abuser is nothing to look up to.

Anyway OP, yabu. If anything more protections need to be put in to protect the public and influencers children from the influencers. While I don't like Tattle etc and don't go on it myself, the influencers have chosen to put themselves in the public eye. They can't pick and choose how the public react to them.

Are you the same person that posted a few weeks back suggesting that hate speech laws should be extended to include “mum influencers on YouTube” as a protected category?

And how fucking sad is that, as an indictment of our society’s relationship with literature, that MRS HINCH currently holds the number one bestselling spot.

I’ve been on Tattle a couple of times and I do think it’s pathetic the level of hatred, gossip and negativity on there. Also wondered how people have the time to spend bitching about someone they don’t know who they clearly hate.

you haven't been on MN long, have you 😂

but Tattle seems to be half bitter hatred, half valid points. A bit like the reddit sub about MN.

@MissBaskinIfYoureNasty

Oh you're doing this again 🙄 will anyone that disagrees with you be called a mean troll like last time?

This!!!

How many more of the same threads can you start op? Are YOU Mrs Hinch?!

I've just looked on three websites for the non-fiction bestsellers and she's not the number one book on any of them. One is a NHS book and the other two were Captain Tom's book.

@SachaStark so depressing.

What other people think of you is none of your business.

As the mother of a very famous person said to me several years ago:
"Fame is not all it's cracked up to be."

@SionnachRua "Why does Caroline Flack always get dragged up? It's sad that she took her own life and all but surely an alleged abuser is nothing to look up to."
A million times this! So many people commit suicide and yet the poster girl for "be kind" to prevent suicide is someone who killed herself because she didn't want to go to court after hitting her sleeping partner over the head with a lamp! The fact that taxpayers money was spent on an entire investigation where the CPS had to justify why they charged her with a crime is insane. I feel so sorry for her family but she's not a victim because bad things happened when those bad things were entirely deserved justice for her awful behaviour. If I attacked someone, I wouldn't expect sympathy if people stopped liking me for it.

A friend was recently telling me about tattle as there is a girl we know who is an 'influencer' nothing as big as Mrs Hinch but over 10k followers and there is a thread of there about her. I had a look through the comments and although some of people's points were valid other people just seem to get almost obsessed with the lives of these people they say they hate so much. I don't get it - if someone winds you up so much and you hate them why waste your time and energy watching them? People were also going out of there way to contact DVLA and report them, they were even reported to SS for apparently having their child strapped into the wrong car seat, although SS never took the complaints any further.

Sadly it's part of the job. Comments can be moderated and removed. Most platforms have systems to report genuine hate speech and harassment. These do need to be tightened though as they are often inconsistent.

It sucks but it's always been that way for anyone in the public eye. These kind of comments have been aimed at entertainment industry veterans for years. It's not just influencers. Actors, musicians, writers, presenters, journalists etc all get them. It's just that social platforms give people an easier way to do it so it's more common. Other people in the public eye are also affected eg politicians, royals.

Sadly we can't stop people being dicks. I work in the media and both me and everyone I work with has had the same issues she has to variable extents. Generally the more widely you are known the worse it is and the more personal info you give out the more it hurts. If you put your home, family and life online that's some very personal info people are picking apart. My job doesn't involve that but I've still had comments that make personal
assumptions about me based on my work.

I have my personal information and accounts locked down strongly and maintain an open easily discoverable public account I temporarily mute or ignore if I get a particularly nasty shitstorm.

What needs sorting out are the laws for when this behaviour moves beyond words on a keyboard in a comment section or on a
Forum so basically stalking, swatting, releasing personal information etc. Things that actually compromise safety.

The rest you just need to ignore as there's no way to police it and too many other things that are far more vital than someone calling you fat, saying you are talentless etc.

Having a thick skin is absolutely essential if you are putting your life up for public scrutiny. Breaks are essential and if you have fragile mental health then you get someone you trust to do your moderation and only check what's essential.

My work is frequently pulled apart on social media. I never read the comments. Someone else moderates them, removes genuine hate, replies where needed and passes on anything I need to know eg constructive comments to me/asks me for a reply if required. This is absolutely the best way to protect your sanity.

Who is Mrs Hinch?

It's not illegal and I don't think new laws would work. Free speech and all that. Tattle is horrible though. It really does go beyond gossip. I only looked once a long while ago and have seen people who seem to spend a weird amount of time delving into peoples private lives, bragging about how they sneak onto someones private accounts to get more information, and then they accuse others of being sad and pathetic, it's weird.

Although to be honest I feel worse for the smaller accounts/youtubers who get a lot of shit on there, who don't make any money but get torn apart, than the most successful people who make very decent livings with their public platform.

Mrs Hinch is a liar, a fraud and a fake. Just as he found BFF Stacey Solomon is. They both pretend to have perfectly clean houses, ideal lifestyles, feed their kids fancy meals which are all documented on IG but when you look closely most of it is all prerecorded. This makes people, usually women, whose lives aren't like that, who maybe struggling, who've given their kids Cheerios for breakfast instead of a watermelon swan feel like shit. Neither of them care about that.

Tattle tries to hold influencers like that to account and I'm glad they do. The sooner more people see the real side of these influencers and this culture is finished the better imo.

Mrs Hinch is the number one best selling book on Amazon, who sell most of the books in the country! It's a fact she's number 1 so if people can't even get that I don't think we can have a conversation

I suggest anyone reading and things these gossip sites are fine they need their head looked at, Mrs Hinch shortly after giving birth they were commenting on her weight while wrapping Christmas presents. The chapter on trolling is heartbreaking 😔