To ask if giving a false phone number is a thing?

[DuckyMcDuck]

Went to a cafe with a friend, we sat outside but she was asked for her phone number. Once we sat down, she admitted that she always gives a false number and so does everyone she knows.

Is this really a common thing? I haven't been in places very much but have always given my number when asked.

It's a bloody phone number, not the combination to your safe full of gold bars.

@ClinkyMonkey

It's a bloody phone number, not the combination to your safe full of gold bars.

You never know with people these days.

But @roarfeckingroarr by refusing to give details you are shitting on those businesses too. The guidelines they were previously given are now law, if they don't abide by them they could be closed.

Also if test and trace doesn't work then various businesses will have to close and hospitality will be first in the firing line.

Also if test and trace doesn't work then various businesses will have to close and hospitality will be first in the firing line

Did you honestly think it would work. Think beyond numbers for a secind. This thing has been up ajs running fir a week. Months after the whole thing even started. There are far far too many variables amd becessary adaptions. We have far too many unscrupulous employers. Infact one of the outbreaks was down to poor working conditions in a factory wasn't it?

We allowed protests and political garherings where people could cone from all over the country and indeed were probably happening all over the country.

We do not take people's word for it under any other circumstances. If I ID someone I cant take their word for it I have to check. But there's nothing we can check with this. If they leave a home number they are out so whos gonna answer. If we call their mobile we risk confrontation and abuse.

We can walk around unchecked in supermarkets and shops and parks abd shopping centres. I could manhandle every bag of pasta in tesco ir sainsbury's fir an hour if I wanted all over the county and the real problem is I dont leave a number in Costa?

It was never going to work. They left it too late to do anything and whT they did do originally had so many exemptions it was always going to be patchy .

@AvocadosBeforeMortgages
Of course it's good to get out for the benefit of your mental health, but how exactly does withholding your phone number in a coffee shop help with this?

I haven't slagged off people's children or wished death on anyone. I still think people who won't provide an accurate phone number for track and trace are despicable, irresponsible and selfish and their actions are a threat to others. I wouldn't want to associate with anyone admitting to doing that but unfortunately I might have be unable to avoid them. They might work in or be customers in shops, doctors ' surgeries, hospitals or business places I may have to visit, even if I can choose to stay away from pubs or restaurants they're using so selfishly. Their potentially infectious children will be at school with other people's children and teachers. And they can't know if those people have vulnerable family or friends.

I totally agree with Boobissue.

[quote ClinkyMonkey]@AvocadosBeforeMortgages
Of course it's good to get out for the benefit of your mental health, but how exactly does withholding your phone number in a coffee shop help with this?[/quote]
If I'm told to self isolate, I have to shut down my business for a fortnight, and have no income.

I won't be eligible for the £500 because I'm not on benefits.

I cannot afford to self isolate, hence giving an incorrect phone number.

The second the government starts making it possible for people like me to afford to self isolate, I'll start giving out my correct phone number.

Their potentially infectious children will be at school with other people's children and teachers. And they can't know if those people have vulnerable family or friends

You don't know that. As I said earlier most have cooperated until this point. How many if you were on the other threads calling anyone who stocked up fir a 14 day isolation selfish and irresponsible and are quite happy to risk infecting their friends and family getting them running around after them or others in the supermarket doung what they should have done already but didnt so they can earn their " I only bought one can of soup" badge.

If the friend you meet up with tested positive so you were deemed a close contact @AvocadosBeforeMortgages would you self isolate?

How would you feel if the cafe you meet up at had to close because weren’t complying with the rules?

@ineedaholidaynow

If the friend you meet up with tested positive so you were deemed a close contact *@AvocadosBeforeMortgages* would you self isolate?

How would you feel if the cafe you meet up at had to close because weren’t complying with the rules?

I'd minimise my contact with others (eg I wouldn't go to coffee shops for a fortnight) but I have no choice but to continue working

@AvocadosBeforeMortgages so don't go anywhere where you might be at risk of coming into contact with the virus the.

It isn't difficult.

What will you do if you do test positive? Carry on working?

Surly you’d want to know if you’d been somewhere and sat near someone who had it?

I don’t get it. Just give your number. All the people that try and find loop holes are firmly to blame for any second lockdown.

Is the money you would earn more than the fine you could incur?

Do you have contact with people whilst working @AvocadosBeforeMortgages

Omg how selfish to give fake numbers!!!

I don’t get it. Just give your number. All the people that try and find loop holes are firmly to blame for any second lockdown

No they aren't ffs.

A few weeks ago they were pushing us all to go out fir heavens sake. Track and trace is a squirrel. And while you are all pointing fingers at someone over a phone number you arent blaming the guberneny fir the shit handling of the whole thing. Employers who make it impossible to phone in sick. The fact no one can get a test. I mean if u want to set up a track akd trace system at least enable people to get a test other wise whats the point theres no results to post up anyway.

Government

Stupid auto correct

[quote Ginfordinner]@AvocadosBeforeMortgages so don't go anywhere where you might be at risk of coming into contact with the virus the.

It isn't difficult.

What will you do if you do test positive? Carry on working?[/quote]
It's not that simple - both DP and lodger work outside the home, as do I.

I won't be getting tested

@Whatwouldscullydo So you are saying that if there are shortfalls in what the government are doing, in your opinion, that's a really good reason to make it all worse by ignoring what can help?

You do realise that you are suggesting that, don't you?

You criticise what's not worked and use that as a perfect reason to not use track and trace.

@ineedaholidaynow

Is the money you would earn more than the fine you could incur?

Do you have contact with people whilst working @AvocadosBeforeMortgages

I don't earn more than than the potential fines (I'm fucking skint - that's WHY I can't afford to self isolate) but the level of enforcement is so low that I think my chances of getting caught are slim-to-none. If the police can't get on top of the rampant local drugs trade then they're definitely not going to have time to track me down

As I say, if the government helped people like me then I'd self isolate. It's not an issue of not wanting to self isolate, it's about not being able to afford to self isolate.

You are also behind with the news @Whatwouldscullydo T&T has been fixed, tests are available, people are being notified.

@AvocadosBeforeMortgages You are eligible for a payout of £500. Your employer should also pay you if you are off with Covid and self isolating. If you are s/e you can apply for the grant. NO excuse to be irresponsible

. How will we all ever get out of this mess if people don't all do their bit?

If I'm told to self isolate, I have to shut down my business for a fortnight, and have no income.

so what kind of business is it? Presumably you have no family or anyone to help you, no savings of any kind, no credit cards and no right to the s/e grant.

You cannot find money for 2 weeks of not earning?

I do hope you aren't in catering or cleaning where you mix with lots of people.

Why would you not want to know if you were a contact? FFS

[quote JinglingHellsBells]@AvocadosBeforeMortgages You are eligible for a payout of £500. Your employer should also pay you if you are off with Covid and self isolating. If you are s/e you can apply for the grant. NO excuse to be irresponsible

. How will we all ever get out of this mess if people don't all do their bit?[/quote]
I am not eligible for the payout of £500 because to claim it you must be simultaneously working and on benefits. I'm not on benefits , so I cannot claim the £500

I'm self employed. I was refused the SEISS grant (which I'm assuming is what you're referring to - the self employed equivalent of furlough) because I'm newly self employed (since summer 2019). That automatically rules me ineligible for the SEISS grant. Around 3 million people have fallen through all the cracks of government support in different but equivalent ways - see the #ExcludedUK campaign to get a flavour of it.

I have been through everything, in fine detail, and have been unable to identify any source of financial support that I would be eligible for if I self isolate.

I have had no support whatsoever from Central Government - despite playing by all the rules and paying all my taxes. I don't even know if I'll be allowed to work properly in 2021.