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Will you be getting the COVID-19 vaccine?

208 replies

sloganhan · 01/10/2020 15:43

It’s looking like this vaccine will be here sooner rather than later. I’m not sure how I feel about it to be honest.

Will you be getting the vaccine?
YABU - YES
YANBU - NO

OP posts:
NameChange84 · 01/10/2020 18:02

@blueberrypie0112

More like they become pregnant and didn’t know if and this vaccines didn’t work out well.
That’s not really a helpful reply. Is it your opinion or fact? You are scaremongering!
blueberrypie0112 · 01/10/2020 18:05

There are a lot medication out there that have a class of how safe is it to take during pregnancy, I am not sure they can class this yet because it is new.

RubixMania · 01/10/2020 18:09

Nope and neither will the dc.

WitchQueenofDarkness · 01/10/2020 18:13

Probably not no.

Florencex · 01/10/2020 18:19

I have volunteered as a test subject, although I am not expecting to be called up as I don’t think I would be in a group that would be of any particular interest.

I won’t rush to be at the front of the queue as I would rather it was first given to vulnerable, key workers and people whose work involves face to face interaction with the public.

blueberrypie0112 · 01/10/2020 18:21

I don’t mean it , yes it is a opinion, I don’t trust anything new until several people tried It first. I am happy to volunteer as I am done with kids so I have done everything I can to make sure I am done. But my local area won’t let me do the trial because I have high blood pressure and they want healthy people first.

GoldenOmber · 01/10/2020 18:27

I’ve said they are rushing a vaccine they have spent 20 years trying to make particularly since SARs. And yes multiple big pharmas were involved. But still no Covid vaccine.

They have not spent 20 years trying to make a vaccine for a virus that wasn’t discovered until last year, no. They haven’t even spent 20 years trying to make a vaccine for SARS. They didn’t skip animal trials, and the government is not the one making the call about whether the vaccine gets licensed or not, that’s up to the regulators. (And thank God for that!)

I’m not going to make you get any vaccine, but I wish you would not talk bollocks about them.

Cinderellashoes · 01/10/2020 18:29

I used to work directly in clinical trials of new drugs and it really frustrates me that people on Mumsnet and generally think they know what they’re talking about when they say it’s a rush job and stuff has been covered up. Research data is so so tightly controlled and data has to be so transparent. The nhs won’t use it unless it’s safe.

Codexdivinchi · 01/10/2020 18:34

@GoldenOmber

I’ve said they are rushing a vaccine they have spent 20 years trying to make particularly since SARs. And yes multiple big pharmas were involved. But still no Covid vaccine.

They have not spent 20 years trying to make a vaccine for a virus that wasn’t discovered until last year, no. They haven’t even spent 20 years trying to make a vaccine for SARS. They didn’t skip animal trials, and the government is not the one making the call about whether the vaccine gets licensed or not, that’s up to the regulators. (And thank God for that!)

I’m not going to make you get any vaccine, but I wish you would not talk bollocks about them.

Both COVID-19 and SARS are caused by coronaviruses. The virus that causes SARS is known as SARS-CoV, while the virus that causes COVID-19 is known as SARS-CoV-2.

They are all from the same strain. Didn’t you know that?

Many pharma groups have been trying to find a vaccine against the corona virus for years.

Do you think that every year when there is a new strain of influenza that they do a whole separated trial Confused

blueberrypie0112 · 01/10/2020 18:34

@Cinderellashoes

I used to work directly in clinical trials of new drugs and it really frustrates me that people on Mumsnet and generally think they know what they’re talking about when they say it’s a rush job and stuff has been covered up. Research data is so so tightly controlled and data has to be so transparent. The nhs won’t use it unless it’s safe.
You can blame them after what happened to Tuskegee Syphilis Study
duffeldaisy · 01/10/2020 18:38

Definitely, as soon as it's offered to people in my (less likely to get it badly) category. I feel privileged to live in a country where we're likely to be offered this through a national health service, and I am very keen to have it, not just for me, but for people who can't have the vaccine for some reason.

I keep close tabs on what's happening with various trials, and have found that's really convinced me that the scientists are only going to release anything that's safe and that is also effective enough that it's not just giving false confidence.

For me, a vaccine will be the start of proper freedom again, and I'd like that for me and my family - so I can see relatives again who we've not seen for months - and also for people who can't have the vaccine for some reason, so need the rest of us to have it on their behalf.

GoldenOmber · 01/10/2020 18:40

They are all from the same strain. Didn’t you know that?

They are not the same virus. They are from the same family of viruses. The current research is not trying to find a vaccine against coronaviruses, it is trying to find a vaccine against this specific one. They are not ‘from the same strain.’

Again, you are making it blindingly obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about here. Usually that wouldn’t matter but this is about a public health emergency and a vaccine that could save lives. Would you at least consider making sure your facts are right before telling everyone that ‘they’ are skipping animal trials, and all the rest of it? Just take a little bit of time out of your day for a Google and check?

mouse70 · 01/10/2020 18:41

Yes

JoanApple · 01/10/2020 18:41

No

Cinderellashoes · 01/10/2020 18:48

There have been lots of studies that haven’t been run well or have gone wrong. Thankfully the guidance today is so robust it doesn’t leave much room for error. Of course things can wrong - as with anything in life nothing is certain! But the protocols for running clinical trials are beyond strict. No one is rushing an unsafe vaccine through.

Codexdivinchi · 01/10/2020 18:49

clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00533741

This is one trail from 2012 on the corona virus.

It’s a really interesting read. It states they don’t think it become an epidemic unless intentionally released.

www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2003/pr83/en/

This is from the WHO talking about the first trials for the coronavirus starting in 2004

This is not a new virus - just a new strain but still from the old coronavirus.

GoldenOmber · 01/10/2020 19:02

There is no 'the coronavirus'. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses. There are different ones within the same family. This one is not SARS, SARS is not MERS, MERS is not one of the coronaviruses that gives humans a bit of a cold. Same family, different viruses.

Codexdivinchi · 01/10/2020 19:06

Go back and read my posts. I said up thread they are from the same family. Do you know what SARs stands for ( with out googling now)

Backofthenewt · 01/10/2020 19:08

I will absolutely be having it as soon as I can.

DH is on one of the clinical trials and has already had it (or the placebo).

Echobelly · 01/10/2020 19:10

I can't imagine we'll see a viable one before March (ie, once we've been through a whole winter season) and can you imagine how incompetent this government will be in rolling it out? But yes, I'd absolutely take it - not really for me, but for other people who are vulnerable and those whose livelihoods are at risk.

GoldenOmber · 01/10/2020 19:11

Go back and read my posts. I said up thread they are from the same family.

You said, about four minutes ago, 'This is not a new virus - just a new strain but still from the old coronavirus.'

Once again, PLEASE would you at least CONSIDER doing a basic Google check about the things you're asserting, to make sure that you're not talking total bollocks? Please? This isn't a pointless internet spat - when you go around telling people 'they've been trying to make this for twenty years and they've skipped animal trials!' some poor soul might believe you.

Codexdivinchi · 01/10/2020 19:11

www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/covid-19

This might help you along.

Coronavirus’s has been here a long time and just by going off the WHO timing (2004) they still hadn’t found a vaccine in 16 years. So yes. If they create a vaccine in six months they are bloody rushing it.

nosswith · 01/10/2020 19:14

Probably, though I'm not expecting it to be available until next year.

Hingeandbracket · 01/10/2020 19:16

I'll have a go on it when it turns up - but I wouldn't trust this government not to have sold all ours to China already.

RollaCola84 · 01/10/2020 19:18

Some people on here really have the intelligence of a potato.

I'll be rolling my sleeve up as soon as soon as they'll allow me.

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