Will you be getting the COVID-19 vaccine?

[sloganhan]

It’s looking like this vaccine will be here sooner rather than later. I’m not sure how I feel about it to be honest.

Will you be getting the vaccine?
YABU - YES
YANBU - NO

No, no and no. We don't get the flu vaccine either since DD ended up in hospital with...the flu. Haven't had a bad flu for 23 years.

@Yorkshireswithallroasts

At this point I’d probably let Boris inject me himself so absolutely yes I will.

Hopefully that's not a euphemism

@sloganhan

Given that it usually takes 9-10 years to safely produce a vaccine, I’m not sure if I would feel comfortable risking my families long term health especially my children.

The flu vaccine hasn’t eradicated the flu just like the malaria vaccine hasn’t eradicated malaria. I feel the vaccine may just offer us a false sense of security.

This isn't flu though. Flu mutates a lot more than this virus, and there are lots of different strains. Covid seems to be relatively stable, which is why a vaccine would be more effective.

As far as I understand it, the reason they could start to develop a vaccine so quickly was that the research group was already working on a vaccine for a similar virus, so a lot of the work had already been done. It won't be released if it isn't safe.

@mindutopia are you with the OVG?

Oh yes although dh and dm and df and dc will be higher up the list...Happy to wait my turn but the sooner the better

I hear what you are saying about the 9/10 years period for vaccine production but that isn’t necessarily to see the long term effects, it’s because of cost and resource restrictions that mean it takes time and money to vaccines through to fruition.

Governments are throwing money at this vaccine and taking the risk that it will pass the former stages whilst going ahead with the latter at the same time. Usually you wouldn’t do this because of the financial risk associated with failure.
So many scientists are involved across the world and I believe there is good information sharing about what works and what doesn’t in different trials.

Also I believe a number of the vaccines being tested are parts of other ones so aren’t “new” new. Ebola vaccine was fast tracked in a similar manner.
In short, the timeframe itself isn’t really a cause for concern if all the usual very tight regulatory steps are being followed.

Yes absolutely. I’m not in one of the categories who’d be first to get it, but I’ll be lining up as soon as I do get the chance.

Given that it usually takes 9-10 years to safely produce a vaccine

That’s not because there’s some kind of safety test that takes 9-10 years to give results. They’re still doing the same safety testing, they’re just compressing timescales on a lot of the rest of the process because it turns out you can speed things up a lot when money isn’t an issue (and there’s loads of volunteers, and lots of chance of volunteers getting exposed to the virus so you can see results fast).

Yes

@sloganhan

Given that it usually takes 9-10 years to safely produce a vaccine, I’m not sure if I would feel comfortable risking my families long term health especially my children.

The flu vaccine hasn’t eradicated the flu just like the malaria vaccine hasn’t eradicated malaria. I feel the vaccine may just offer us a false sense of security.

Jesus wept. How are there STILL people, educated enough to read, who do NOT understand this?

Basically, it's being done so quickly due to money, time & other resources being thrown as it. No massively long waiting for funding. No massive long time allowed for essential
people to read & approve things. It's simply being efficiently done. The TESTING isn't being skimped on

The flu vaccine is different each year to protect against different strains of flu. It's likely we will need a booster (annually/periodically) for this too - it doesn't mean it's not worth having 🙇🏻‍♀️

Being young, fit & healthy is NO guarantee you won't get serious health problems from Covid or die from it. It's really not.

You'll also be helping to protect others who are unable to have the vaccine.

We don't get the flu vaccine either since DD ended up in hospital with...the flu

Aren't you the poster who swore blind that the flu vaccine gave her DD the flu despite this not being possible?

Source for the sooner rather than later news please?

Of course!

I don’t think it’s going to be a straightforward choice like that. I imagine it’ll be offered by the NHS to certain vulnerable groups, like the flu one is, and everyone else will have to go private if they want it.

@Marmunia1975

No, no and no. We don't get the flu vaccine either since DD ended up in hospital with...the flu. Haven't had a bad flu for 23 years.

1. The flu vaccine doesn't help against all types of flu, you can still get a flu if it wasn't invluded.

1. It takes around 2 weeks before the flu vaccine actually works, how soon was she ill after the injection? If it was within two weeks she was infected before it worked.

1. No vaccine works for a 100% of the people vaccinated.

I wouldn't rush out to be first in the queue because I'm not vulnerable, but I would be happy to in order to protect others.

A vaccine they've made within a year... When others take years to get through trials. Absolutely not!!!!

@combatbarbie

A vaccine they've made within a year... When others take years to get through trials. Absolutely not!!!!

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And I mean trials for side effects etc.....

@combatbarbie

A vaccine they've made within a year... When others take years to get through trials. Absolutely not!!!!

Because they spent more money and time now. If say for example you spend 1200 hours normally developing something on your own, that would take 1 person around a year to create. Now imagine that because of more money you hire 11 other people to do tge same work, now all of a sudden it's ready within a month. Still the same work done, just with more resources it is ready quicker.

Get it?

Not only will I get it, I've volunteered for the clinical trials. I'm in an area with very little covid transmission at the moment, so I'm unlikely to be selected.

As far as I know it's still in the testing phase, and I don't think the facilities to produce it in large quantities are ready yet

I just thought I'd correct this. Manufacturing, at least in the US, is already underway ahead of approval.

2 Companies Supplying US with 100 Million Doses of COVID-19 Vaccine

Can you link to the update on the vaccine?

I just thought I'd correct this. Manufacturing, at least in the US, is already underway ahead of approval

Thanks, I don't know much about the US side tbh, thanks for clarifying

Vaccine development usually goes roughly like this:

Research team wants to look in X Disease > applies for go ahead to start research > wait > approval given > applies for funding for research > wait > funding awarded > research starts > research is promising > reports findings > wait > findings reviewed > wait > reviewed support initial findings > apply for permission to proceed to next step > wait > permission granted > apply for funding to proceed to next step > wait

And so on and so on.

Many of the steps in research and development involve applying for funding and waiting for approval.

The covid vaccine wasn't starting from zero, there have been several ongoing studies into a coronavirus vaccine for years and the research into those was able to be carried across. They have been given all of the funding they need and the funding is there when they need it with no delays due to "apply and wait", and they are able to run stages concurrently rather than consecutively. None of the stages are being missed out and none of the safety protocols have been cancelled or suspended.

This new vaccine is an example of how quickly medicine can advance when given proper funding.

@MJMG2015 The trails DO take years and rightly so! It’s not ONLY funding that goes into vaccine production / research. Those educated enough to read would also know this.

When my turn comes - absolutely.

But what about long term effects of the vaccine? That’s something you can’t speed up with all the funding in the world.

@Fudgefeet Exactly!