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Not to tell DH that DD at uni has Covid?

158 replies

Saracen · 30/09/2020 09:34

Our eldest went off to university a couple of weeks ago and just told me she has tested positive for Covid-19. She feels okay so far, with just cold-type symptoms which she's had for four days. She's in halls and has flatmates who can push food in to her room etc. Of course I wish she hadn't caught it, but I'm not particularly worried about her.

I don't want to tell DH until she has recovered. He worries about this sort of thing. In March when our eldest was still living at home, we (probably wrongly as it turns out) thought she might have CV, and he was beside himself. Our younger teen has a learning disability and was extremely anxious at that time about her sibling, and of course her father's behaviour made her even more frightened. He is quite incapable of keeping secrets from her even at the best of times, so I can't tell him without her finding out.

I asked my older DD's permission to keep it quiet and she agreed. I said I didn't expect her to lie, I just wasn't planning to mention it to DH. But now I am wondering whether this is fair on DH or on her. I don't know whether he'll feel I should have told him. There have been a few times in the past when he's said to me "if you do such-and-such dangerous thing please don't tell me until afterward", but he has never said he didn't want to know if DD was ill.

Plus I've realised it may be tricky for her not to tell him, because it's her birthday in a few days. No doubt we'll skype her to wish her well. He'll be asking her about her plans, whether she's going out, whether she'll celebrate at home with her flatmates, and of course the truth is she's got to stay holed up in her bedroom all alone for some time to come. It isn't so simple to avoid the subject. This may push it from "we won't mention it" to actual deception.

Should I try to keep it quiet?

OP posts:
AutumnSuns · 30/09/2020 13:29

OP, please tell your DH. If mine did this to me it would have me reevaluating the relationship. Your daughter has said she would prefer him told, as she although feeling well will be feeling vulnerable isolated and scared and the more parental support she gets the better, especially as it is her birthday FFS.

Blulorry · 30/09/2020 13:30

Also how old is your DD with a disability? If he cannot control himself not to repeat something you have told him.... that’s a problem too.

AutumnSuns · 30/09/2020 13:32

OP you said To clarify about my daughter's preference: she'd rather her dad knew
That’s all that needs to be said. Please support your daughter and do not ask this if her when she is unwell. If there are issues with your DH and other daughter please give your support to your daughter currently stuck away from home relying on flat mates.

corythatwas · 30/09/2020 13:39

It’s not fair to upset your other DD because he will also make her even more anxious.

Ok, so the eldest daughter just has to accept that her role is to conceal the state of her health because her dad will make her youngest sister anxious? That's nice for her. Hmm

GlomOfNit · 30/09/2020 13:40

Lots of people having a pop at the OP - I think it all depends on why her DH gets so anxious (and lets that spill over so everyone else knows). If he has mental health issues, eg extreme anxiety or depression, or if he's on the autistic spectrum, I can see how he might very well fret away at this sort of knowledge without being able to control his response to it. Why is that so hard to imagine? And given that possibility, I'd also be tempted to keep certain things on a need-to-know basis and not allow him to suffer unduly.

But yes OP, this is really for your DD to decide.

corythatwas · 30/09/2020 13:48

If he has mental health issues, eg extreme anxiety or depression, or if he's on the autistic spectrum, I can see how he might very well fret away at this sort of knowledge without being able to control his response to it. Why is that so hard to imagine?

He is still a father. It is his responsibility to seek help for his difficulties and to make a plan for how he is going to deal with inevitable cases of illness etc.

It is not the responsibility of his child to have to tiptoe around him or to feel her sister's peace of mind is more important than hers.

I have lived for over 20 years with a child with extreme anxiety- I do everything I can to support her, but I would not let her younger brother feel that she is the only one who has the right to be ill and that he would have to hide his problems away if something happened to him.

She now shares a household with other people and though she has no children, she is a responsible adult- she has plans for how she is going to make sure her anxiety doesn't impact too much on other people.

If she failed to acknowledge the needs of other family members when they are ill and worried, then I would have words. I have in the past.

smalalalalalala · 30/09/2020 13:59

@BusyBB

Is it a bit unfair on dd that she cant tell him now? Maybe she is worried and would also like him to be worried for her?
I don't think you are unreasonable. Maybe the other posters don't know what it is to live with someone with an anxiety disorder?

I would wait a few days, maybe the day before her birthday to tell him, so you can break the news, have the call as normal and also the most dangerous part of the symptoms have past (hopefully).

Who would want someone to worry for them? That is a bit strange !

corythatwas · 30/09/2020 14:12

Maybe the other posters don't know what it is to live with someone with an anxiety disorder?

Yes, I do, as per my post above.

I also grew up with a parent with an anxiety disorder- though thankfully not concerning health- and a brother with other MH issues. I have very strong views on the subject of one child always being expected to be the strong one. I have seen the damage it does. I was not going to do that to my seemingly healthy child.

Blulorry · 30/09/2020 14:17

@corythatwas

It’s not fair to upset your other DD because he will also make her even more anxious.

Ok, so the eldest daughter just has to accept that her role is to conceal the state of her health because her dad will make her youngest sister anxious? That's nice for her. Hmm

The dad should be able to keep quiet about something if OP has asked him not to say anything... he clearly has an issue if he doesn’t know not to relay certain things. Then OP has a disabled child who is anxious and a husband as well.
Gigglr · 30/09/2020 14:28

Don't teach your daughter to pander to ridiculous men! It's not a good lesson. Surely her father should be supporting her not having her keep quiet in case it upsets him.

Aridane · 30/09/2020 14:43

To clarify about my daughter's preference: she'd rather her dad knew, but she doesn't feel strongly about it. I'm the one who's inclined to keep it quiet

Not nice, OP, not nice. If I were your partner, your behaviour he would be a red flag

corythatwas · 30/09/2020 15:21

Then OP has a disabled child who is anxious and a husband as well.

Yes, so the whole family has to work out a plan for how to manage crises which means every member of the family can have their needs met. This involves the OP having very strong words with her husband, insisting that he has to seek medical advice if he cannot control his anxiety.

JenniferSantoro · 30/09/2020 15:40

I can’t believe you wouldn’t tell your husband and then also expect your daughter to keep quiet too. You are being unfair on your daughter and unfair on your husband.

DeliciouslyFemale · 30/09/2020 15:46

@corythatwas

Then OP has a disabled child who is anxious and a husband as well.

Yes, so the whole family has to work out a plan for how to manage crises which means every member of the family can have their needs met. This involves the OP having very strong words with her husband, insisting that he has to seek medical advice if he cannot control his anxiety.

Totally agree.
blueberrypie0112 · 30/09/2020 16:02

Just tell them. They may have to deal with it but family likes to be in it together, yes including your child with a disability.

blueberrypie0112 · 30/09/2020 16:04

Personally, I find it patronizing to keep it from me because I have a disability (which I do- deaf, slight learning disability, and have anxiety)

Howlooseisyourgoose · 30/09/2020 16:05

Still undecided.

It’s not your decision. Your dd wants to tell him so let her tell him. You sound controlling.

Blulorry · 30/09/2020 16:09

@blueberrypie0112

Personally, I find it patronizing to keep it from me because I have a disability (which I do- deaf, slight learning disability, and have anxiety)
Do you notice other people who may be anxious? Not just Covid just generally.... people who are anxious tend to think the worst possible outcome in a scenario and when you try to agree with them and state anything possible there’s always something...
corythatwas · 30/09/2020 16:11

I would also say, if the husband has a tendency to go off at the deep end, it should be part of the family planning to teach the younger daughter to understand that daddy gets scared and says things he doesn't really mean.

I think there is a risk in not preparing disabled children or children with MH issues for life. Not to mention adults.

blueberrypie0112 · 30/09/2020 16:25

Blulorry, I think they are already dealing with anxiety the day she left. But if you have to, get the counselor involved.

Jeremyironseverything · 30/09/2020 16:30

Perhaps leave it another day or so and then tell him she's just had her results after a long wait. She's not said anything until she got a definite positive because she didn't want to worry people.
By tomorrow you can honestly say that she's obviously had it a while and she's looking like she's only got a mild case as she's had symptoms that hasn't got worse.

So telling the truth but diluting the worry.

Saracen · 30/09/2020 22:56

Well, in the end the decision was taken out of my hands. DD had given our phone number to Test and Trace as a backup number. They couldn't reach her since mobile reception is terrible in her flat, so they phoned our number trying to reach her.

DH said it was probably best I hadn't told him. Instead he has been getting angry at everyone who could possibly be blamed for her contracting coronavirus. My youngest, on the other hand, seems entirely unbothered. Maybe she thinks that her sister survived last time just fine and so there is nothing to worry about after all?

Thanks again for all your thoughts!

OP posts:
corythatwas · 01/10/2020 08:50

DH said it was probably best I hadn't told him

Sorry, but I think this is the time you get angry at him. So he thinks it's better than he doesn't feel anxious than that he is there to support his child if needed.

From a parent, whatever their mental state, that is an extremely selfish attitude.

A correct attitude would have been "I am sorry you didn't feel safe to tell me. I have been thinking about the way I handle these occasions and I am going to get treatment/work with relaxation techniques because I obviously want to be there for my children when they need me".

PortugeseManoWar · 01/10/2020 09:56

@corythatwas

DH said it was probably best I hadn't told him

Sorry, but I think this is the time you get angry at him. So he thinks it's better than he doesn't feel anxious than that he is there to support his child if needed.

From a parent, whatever their mental state, that is an extremely selfish attitude.

A correct attitude would have been "I am sorry you didn't feel safe to tell me. I have been thinking about the way I handle these occasions and I am going to get treatment/work with relaxation techniques because I obviously want to be there for my children when they need me".

Hear hear. It's completely inappropriate for your husband to want to be babied by having concerning information concealed from him, rather than being aware of all factors that influence his support for a young adult child.
FourTeaFallOut · 01/10/2020 09:59

And how long does your family intend to form a human shield around your DH and his overreaction to the stresses of the world?