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Not to tell DH that DD at uni has Covid?

158 replies

Saracen · 30/09/2020 09:34

Our eldest went off to university a couple of weeks ago and just told me she has tested positive for Covid-19. She feels okay so far, with just cold-type symptoms which she's had for four days. She's in halls and has flatmates who can push food in to her room etc. Of course I wish she hadn't caught it, but I'm not particularly worried about her.

I don't want to tell DH until she has recovered. He worries about this sort of thing. In March when our eldest was still living at home, we (probably wrongly as it turns out) thought she might have CV, and he was beside himself. Our younger teen has a learning disability and was extremely anxious at that time about her sibling, and of course her father's behaviour made her even more frightened. He is quite incapable of keeping secrets from her even at the best of times, so I can't tell him without her finding out.

I asked my older DD's permission to keep it quiet and she agreed. I said I didn't expect her to lie, I just wasn't planning to mention it to DH. But now I am wondering whether this is fair on DH or on her. I don't know whether he'll feel I should have told him. There have been a few times in the past when he's said to me "if you do such-and-such dangerous thing please don't tell me until afterward", but he has never said he didn't want to know if DD was ill.

Plus I've realised it may be tricky for her not to tell him, because it's her birthday in a few days. No doubt we'll skype her to wish her well. He'll be asking her about her plans, whether she's going out, whether she'll celebrate at home with her flatmates, and of course the truth is she's got to stay holed up in her bedroom all alone for some time to come. It isn't so simple to avoid the subject. This may push it from "we won't mention it" to actual deception.

Should I try to keep it quiet?

OP posts:
Antimacassar · 30/09/2020 10:38

@Xenia

You are not allowed by law to tell her father without her consent otherwise you breach GDPR/ DPA 2018 and this is special category (health) data so a serious breach if you do tell him.
It's at moments like this that I am reminded that @Xenia has dialled in from Planet Elsewhere. Hmm
FourTeaFallOut · 30/09/2020 10:38

@Xenia the op asked her dd not to tell her father.

bellinisurge · 30/09/2020 10:40

Xenia that is a load of shite. Whatever the dynamic is in this family which means you wouldn't tell the student's father, don't drag fucking GDPR into it
I work with GDPR daily. This kind of nonsense gives me the rage.

Sparklesocks · 30/09/2020 10:42

@Xenia

You are not allowed by law to tell her father without her consent otherwise you breach GDPR/ DPA 2018 and this is special category (health) data so a serious breach if you do tell him.
Err what
AryaStarkWolf · 30/09/2020 10:42

You can't not to tell him his child is sick fgs

Fluffalo · 30/09/2020 10:43

People's lack of understanding around GDPR is astounding, what a load of horse poo.

christinarossetti19 · 30/09/2020 10:43

Yep. That's a particularly unique stretch for GDPR legislation Grin.

OP's dd is happy for her father to be told. Even if she wasn't, OP wouldn't be breaking any law if she did.

blueberrypie0112 · 30/09/2020 10:46

@Xenia

You are not allowed by law to tell her father without her consent otherwise you breach GDPR/ DPA 2018 and this is special category (health) data so a serious breach if you do tell him.
Does this apply to adult children or are they entitled to privacy?
Oysterbabe · 30/09/2020 10:46

I'd be furious if my DH kept something like this from me when it's my own child. Your DD is happy for him to know then tell him.

My DH kept information about a medical condition our DD has from his mother because she's a worrier. In the end he had to tell her because DD needed surgery. She was very hurt that it was kept from her.

AranciaRosso · 30/09/2020 10:47

@Xenia

You are not allowed by law to tell her father without her consent otherwise you breach GDPR/ DPA 2018 and this is special category (health) data so a serious breach if you do tell him.
Good to know.

So next time DH wants to know if DS is in the bathroom having a stinky shit I'll quote that at him.

Grin
Legit · 30/09/2020 10:50

It's you who doesn't want to tell him, not your daughter. If she's fine with it, you should tell him.

Belladonna12 · 30/09/2020 10:52

I can see why you don't want him to know but he is going to find out eventually. If he realises you kept it from him he will wonder what else you keep from him. The whole thing could backfire and your attempts to stop him worrying could make him worse.

Legit · 30/09/2020 10:52

Xenia - the GDPR doesn't apply to individuals outside the work context. It's ridiculous to suggest that this information can't be shared by family members.

SoupDragon · 30/09/2020 10:52

@Xenia

You are not allowed by law to tell her father without her consent otherwise you breach GDPR/ DPA 2018 and this is special category (health) data so a serious breach if you do tell him.
Which is entirely irrelevant given the DD does want to tell him.
SlightlyJaded · 30/09/2020 10:54

OP ignore Xenia.

Your DD has a slight preference for sharing, so you do need to tell him. Perhaps your DD is actually looking or some sympathy from both her parents - not in a spoilt way, but she may be feeling pretty lousy and appreciate a bit of 'special treatment' which she won't get from her dad if he doesn't know.

HOWEVER I have kept things from DH before due to his inability to moderate his responses and his immature emotional intelligence at times. That makes him sound awful - he isn't, but his whole family (mediterranean) err on the side of dramatics and sometimes, it just makes things worse. A perfect example is when DH was working away on a massive event and had tacked two days 'breathing' time on to the end (with my encouragement). He had 48 hours to unwind after working 20 hour days for several days and his brother called me to tell him that their DM was ill. She was never in any danger and I know this because I spoke to the consultant. I suggested we wait till DH was home to tell him as he would just worry himself stupid when he was meant to be de-stressing, was a long-haul flight away and needed the break. But, no, that wouldn't do - he had to be told immediately so that they could all be dramatic and imagine the worst together. It helped precisely noone.

So I get it.

But your DDs wishes trump everything else - sorry.

LUZON · 30/09/2020 10:54

xenia
You are not allowed by law to tell her father without her consent otherwise you breach GDPR/ DPA 2018 and this is special category (health) data so a serious breach if you do tell him

Lol

bumblingbovine49 · 30/09/2020 10:54

@MoonJelly

Which are you most concerned about @Saracen, that DH will worry or that his actions when he knows will set of a chain reaction in younger DC? He is an adult and should be able to behave appropriately. If it's not in your younger DC's best interests to know then he should be able to control himself enough in order for her to not find out. If he can't he really needs to seek help.

It's all very well to say what OP's DH should do and how he should react, but the fact is that she knows from previous experience that he isn't able to control his reaction and the simple fact is that, with an actual diagnosis and his daughter being away at university, that reaction is likely to be even more over the top and upset the younger child even more. Sure, he needs help to control his reactions but that doesn't assist OP in the current situation.

As he's said before that he doesn't want to know about potentially worrying things till they are out of the way, I think you effectively have permission not to worry him about this one.

Op the fact that you DD would rather her dad knew but is agreeing with you to keep the peace is what swung this for me. You should tell your DH I am afraid
SickToDeathOfThis · 30/09/2020 10:55

My father pressured me to keep a serious diagnosis from my (mentally sharp) grandmother “to keep her from worrying”. I was very very hurt & felt like someone else’s sense of normalcy and comfort was being prioritised over my emotional and physical agony.

Having to fake good health to keep someone else feeling cheery made me feel worthless and unseen. It can’t be undone. Don’t do that to your daughter, please X

unmarkedbythat · 30/09/2020 10:58

Xenia
You are not allowed by law to tell her father without her consent otherwise you breach GDPR/ DPA 2018 and this is special category (health) data so a serious breach if you do tell him

GDPR? The what now? The ICO guidance doesn't seem to support that argument.

Antimacassar · 30/09/2020 10:59

@Fluffalo

People's lack of understanding around GDPR is astounding, what a load of horse poo.
Agreed, but @Xenia purports to be a hotshot lawyer, doesn't she?
blueberrypie0112 · 30/09/2020 11:00

@LUZON

xenia You are not allowed by law to tell her father without her consent otherwise you breach GDPR/ DPA 2018 and this is special category (health) data so a serious breach if you do tell him

Lol

I don’t think Xenia is entirely wrong since this is an adult child. But only if the adult child does not want her health issues shared with the whole family
bridgetreilly · 30/09/2020 11:00

If worriers think you aren't telling them everything, they will be in constant states of high anxiety. For his sake, you have to tell him, so that he knows he can always trust you to tell him things in the future. Keeping things from him now is not doing him any favours.

Seeingadistance · 30/09/2020 11:04

If the daughter wants to tell her father, she can do so herself, surely. OP isn’t forcing her DD into silence, just trying to avoid a shitshow caused by panicking DH.

Murmurur · 30/09/2020 11:05

Getting covid is big news even when you experience it mildly. It's not fair on DD or DH to lie about it by omission.

Also, although the chances that she will need to be hospitalised are very small, unfortunately they are not zero. Tell him now, for her sake so she has the extra support and for his so there is no huge shock coming if she does need to be admitted. Worrying about your children is part of loving them.

Howlooseisyourgoose · 30/09/2020 11:09

Of course YABU. You’re reasoning doesn’t stand.

Your DD is unlikely to be frightened if her Dad gets worried as she is over 18 and living away from home! The comparison with your younger teen is irrelevant.

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