Trump vs Biden who would get your vote?

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I’m up watching the first presidential debate from the UK. Who would get your vote?

YABU Trump
YANBU Biden

To all those posting "300 million Americans and this is what we have," I really feel the bigger issue is what's been voted in already. Trump is a dictator in waiting.

am trying to find you a link but am releasing they’ve done a big cull on YT since I last looked.

That's convenient. FFS are you not concerned about the fact that Trump has raped and assaulted women, including his own wife?

They’ve literally deleted the video that was circulating years ago with the full footage but this is a snapshot.

Anyone who says he’s just ‘overly affectionate’ can swivel. This man is a pro.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=JHbDVL1hp_U

Anyone see the video of Biden kissing the kids? Wayyyy too creepy for me, even the kids were creeped out!

@MsStillwell it’s not convenient at all, it’s censorship. I found a small example linked above. Enjoy.

As I said they’re both appalling humans. I wouldn’t want either of them.

I just can’t unsee the blatant paedophilic tendencies of Biden and how weirdly tolerated it is by the democrats.

A person can find Biden horrendous and still not be an alt right Trump red neck.

They are both AWFUL MEN.

End of.

Biden was too touchy-feely and invaded people's space.

I can't equate that with Trump who has sexually assaulted and raped women. www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped

They are both AWFUL MEN. End of.

So why do you prefer Trump?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=gA1j0rSkMqM

Is this touch feely? That little girl flinches and moves away. Something happened. It’s sickening. Touchy-feely and invasive of little girls is not presidential.

@MsStillwell

As per my repeated reference above. I don’t. If I HAD to vote, I would vote for him. Because I’m pretty sure Biden is a paedophile.

I’m not biting anymore.

Oh that's creepy and awful. @justanothermother2020

Exactly @ArnoldSweatyknickers. Something so wrong with it. And hiding in plain sight.

Pretty sure based on a hunch vs Trump admitting to sexually assaulting women.

@LadyEloise it really is.

I don’t understand how the MSM can just ignore it. I don’t understand how the Trump presidency wasn’t challenged over the whole Facebook data manipulation stuff during the election.

The world has just gone mad tbh.

justanothermother2020 I know!! The video I watched showed many clips of Biden inappropriately touching little kids and trying to kiss them. The one you posted was also in the video and not even the worst. Have you saw the clip of him holding the baby? Even the parents looked uncomfortable.

They’ve deleted so many of them. Yes the baby one was weird.

I can see how people would say ‘oh he’s just over familiar’. But the go read about grooming behaviours. The way he talks to teenage girls is grooming. It’s inappropriate and violating.

The way he groped and strokes and kisses children who are powerless and small is utterly horrible.

The fact we are in a situation where people have Trump so much they would just shrug and vote this guy because he’s not Trump is just insane. The best option would be for America to unite and say neither of these guys is worthy of a presidency.

Thank god I am not American and don’t have to make that choice.

The fact is, presidential race aside, if we saw a man acting like that at a school fete or kids party we’d be dragging our kids away in disgust.

@Handsoffisback I agree.

Sadly people are so determined to label anyone anti Biden as a pro Trump lunatic they just don’t even watch the footage.

I am personally someone who likes to be informed. (I am a trained journalist. Can’t help it.)

I feel like everyone should see this as well as read the stuff about Trump, and just say nah this is ludicrous we need to break the entire system down and start over.

But Biden will win and everyone will cheer. Not sure it’s even the lesser of two evils. But hey ho. That’s life, apparently.

I think Trump is the biggest danger that the US has ever faced, and the biggest threat to the rest of 'the West' since WW2.

Until recently, I rolled my eyes at those predicting civil war, however, with Trump's attempts to undermine the election, refusal to commit to a peaceful transition of power and apparent supporting of white supremacist thugs to intimidate and otherwise intervene at the ballot box, I have changed my mind.

I think we may be on the brink, and its terrifying.

In the circumstances, I'd vote for basically anyone else. Biden included.

Wow. I’ve just watched a video. This is outrageous. I feel ill. Another one. If he’s that overt on camera it’s highly likely he’s offended off camera.

Sorry and I have to share this right now. I told my husband and he was so dismissive of me and sarcastic. Apparently it would be known. And if mumsnet knows it must be true. Gaslighting etc.

Having been targeted by a geriatric paedophile, this is really close to home. Luckily I was 16 although, I passed for younger, feisty and managed to overpower him verbally, not physically though. He was still so strong.

And they are not at all offended by her claiming heritage she doesn't have?

No, I wouldn't say that, but their views are a whole lot more nuanced than Warren=Trump.

Yabu.... j actually like trump. Yes he is an idiot but he's more normal than Biden.

I bloody hope our votes correlate to the American ones

@madcow88

Yabu.... j actually like trump. Yes he is an idiot but he's more normal than Biden.

Good one. Very funny.

Neither are great, but watching Biden in the debate, he looks vacant. There’s no doubt that if he gets in he just won’t have the energy or capability to run a country the size of USA, and you have to wonder who the puppeteers will be pulling the strings.