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To strongly dislike Nicola Sturgeon right now?

651 replies

Loobyloo71 · 22/09/2020 19:22

Here to rant that Nicola has gone one step further and banned meeting in homes. She always feels the need to one-up Bojo, and hasn’t even given the rule of 6 she introduced last week a chance to see if it’s working.
Interested to know what the English think - do you think she’s taken it too far, or Bojo hasn’t taken it far enough?!

Seems like such a disparity that in England you can meet with 6 other households indoors and here none 🤯😡🤬😭😭

OP posts:
StoneofDestiny · 22/09/2020 21:27

Today, British people were invited to enjoy the spectacle of Johnson shutting pubs – for an hour – and the irony of being hectored that they are “in the last chance saloon” by the very people who herded them back to the saloon and bought them half-price lunches there.

Three weeks ago, unnamed government ministers were trying to put the frighteners on anyone wary of returning to their offices, pointedly telling the Daily Telegraph that those working from home could be “vulnerable” to being sacked. Does this include Johnson, who famously works from his own home in Westminster’s Downing Street? This home is, by all the accounts we have been forced to endure recently, a ghastly little hovel, and his job a series of degradations and privations

The Times on Saturday catalogued the baroque indignities visited upon Johnson’s personage therein, ranging from the impossibility of managing on a salary of £150,000, to not being sure he could afford a nanny, to having to pay for his own food at Chequers, and to Downing Street being “not a nice place to live … even if he and Carrie want to go into the rose garden they have to go through the office”

Well said Marina Hyde in The Guardian today

AnyFucker · 22/09/2020 21:28

No. It"s a statement about fugly footwear. I hate the shoes. I hate Boris's ill fitting suits too.

Amortentia · 22/09/2020 21:29

@KeepingPlain

I've always strongly disliked her - nothing to do with a global pandemic

This. She's a stupid woman who has done nothing but ruin Scotland with her obsession to make it independent, and if she gets her way there she will completely ruin us. Fix the schools and NHS first nicola, then we'll see about trusting you with everything else.

I've seen comments like this before and my first response is always incredulity, then curiosity. I want to know where about in Scotland you lived in the 70s, 80s & 90s. Because you're talking absolute nonsense. And if you lived anywhere near Glasgow in that time period you should be bloody ashamed if you can say Scotland is worse now.
Thewiseoneincognito · 22/09/2020 21:29

Hate to say this OP but she is usually right. BoJo will follow her lead. You are quite lucky to have her in charge because she has the best interests of her fellow countrymen at heart.

IncandescentSilver · 22/09/2020 21:30

Can't stand her, her state-controlling policies or her grating, trying-to-sound-tough voice. Particularly can't stand what is happening in Scotland now - curbs on Scottish student numbers at universities, less funding for further education places, dreadful roads, higher taxes and the carry on of City of Edinburgh Council which goes uncurbed and undebated by the Scottish Parliament (e.g. the statutory notices fraud/scam). The second homes tax means that some Highland villages are full of abandoned properties.

I work in higher education and have been made redundant once due to Scottish Gov policies. This latest round of restrictions makes it quite likely I'll be made redundant again.

And why the hell has the world famous epidemologist, Sir Hugh Penninton, At Aberdeen University, been sidelined in favour of a dentist and a GP?

SallySeven · 22/09/2020 21:30

I noted the Saltire blue of her suit today.

Monkey2001 · 22/09/2020 21:31

@fluffyugg

I live in Scotland in a low case area but honestly I think she's done the right thing and acted early. What was the UK government's big announcement? Pubs shut at 10 and keep working from home...really? That's it?
Exactly what I thought! I have never liked NS, but I thought she showed compassion when she talked about children being allowed to play and non co-habiting partners being able to visit each other (much to the relief of my DS!) It would be interesting to see a graph comparing covid impact on Scotland and England.

I agree that a England should have done more, this is tinkering round the edges.

Lovely1a2b3c · 22/09/2020 21:31

I think Nicola Sturgeon has dealt with Covid far better than Bojo. Taking slightly more precautions earlier is a good idea.

legoqueen · 22/09/2020 21:32

Here in West Yorkshire we can't meet other households in houses or gardens. It's just what we need to do at the moment. I'd much prefer Nicola's sensible & cool-headed approach than Boris's flim-flamming & pathetic cronyism re testing.

Pan2 · 22/09/2020 21:32

I'm a Scot in England - most of the folk I talk to want NS as PM. No-one wishes Johnson to remain - NS comes across as very competent, a leader and demonstrates a warmth of concern for the population. Johnson does none of that.

I think I'd be fairly unhappy if I lived in a well-managed low infection part of Scotland, to be lumped in with Greater Glasgow/Lanark etc.

Amortentia · 22/09/2020 21:33

@IncandescentSilver

Can't stand her, her state-controlling policies or her grating, trying-to-sound-tough voice. Particularly can't stand what is happening in Scotland now - curbs on Scottish student numbers at universities, less funding for further education places, dreadful roads, higher taxes and the carry on of City of Edinburgh Council which goes uncurbed and undebated by the Scottish Parliament (e.g. the statutory notices fraud/scam). The second homes tax means that some Highland villages are full of abandoned properties.

I work in higher education and have been made redundant once due to Scottish Gov policies. This latest round of restrictions makes it quite likely I'll be made redundant again.

And why the hell has the world famous epidemologist, Sir Hugh Penninton, At Aberdeen University, been sidelined in favour of a dentist and a GP?

Higher rate taxes? Only for those on a higher income. Those on low income pay less in Scotland. And why is a retired academic not being used as a health advisor? He's 82.
MegaClutterSlut · 22/09/2020 21:34

I don't think shes taken it too far, boris has been too relaxed imo. I really don't think the restrictions he's placed will make a blind bit of difference. The rule of 6 is just pointless, if anything it will escalate a lot more still but hopefully I'm proved wrong

ceeveebee · 22/09/2020 21:34

I much prefer Nicola Sturgeon to Boris, I wish she was our PM! The new rules make absolutely no sense in England - pubs shut at 10pm so everyone is just going to go back to their mates house for the after party (even if they stick to the rule of 6 that will be a high transmission risk)
I’m in Greater Manchester and we can’t even have people in our own garden, but can meet them in a beer garden? And we are in Trafford and have the lowest rate in the area (although still high) and yet there are two boroughs who were released from restrictions and are now way higher than us! Nonsensical

StoneofDestiny · 22/09/2020 21:34

And who needs misogynists when people are critiquing her footwear choices during a global pandemic

Exactly - painful how much women still have to battle against, even a clearly articulate women - while a mock stammering, inarticulate, evasive, shagaholic buffoon like Johnsons' footwear goes unnoticed.

annabel85 · 22/09/2020 21:34

Difference is NS is prepared to make the tough decisions. Johnson will do it in a couple of weeks and will blame the public for not heeding their warning.

SunshineCake · 22/09/2020 21:35

@Loobyloo71

Yeah to be fair he does usually copy what she does a week later. It’s just the injustice that makes me mad. It’s not been that bad up here really and yet we’ve always had it stricter.
Then strict works Hmm.

And Scotland is a different country so doesn't have to be the same as England.

SallySeven · 22/09/2020 21:35

Shagaholic buffoon made me smile at least! Thanks.

AnyFucker · 22/09/2020 21:38

I can't see his shoes. His suits are fucking shocking though.

Dee1975 · 22/09/2020 21:39

She does like you say, likes to get one up on boris.
However, I don’t boris did enough. I think we need to ban households mixing too.

ilovesooty · 22/09/2020 21:39

I think she's made the right decision and Johnson should have done the same thing.

SomewhereEast · 22/09/2020 21:39

I'm Irish, so have no ideological axe to grind with NS, but people have been banging on since forever about how much better Scotland is than England re Covid, yet six months in Scotland's infection rates aren't noticeably better & its Covid policies aren't actually massively different. So I'm not clear that Scotland's follow-England-but-two-weeks-later policy has much to show for itself.

StoneofDestiny · 22/09/2020 21:39

I work in higher education and have been made redundant once due to Scottish Gov policies. This latest round of restrictions makes it quite likely I'll be made redundant again

Of course, there have been no redundancies in England, Wales and NI. Roads are just perfect too.
You need to travel more!

Pan2 · 22/09/2020 21:40

Hi AF - yes is an utter embarrassment to the office, not least to his sartorial mess and knuckle-dragging posture. He looks unevolved.

TheVanguardSix · 22/09/2020 21:40

She's only doing what other countries or regions in other countries are doing. It all sucks eggs, big time. And I hate it. But the second wave was always going to show up for fun and games.

LoveMyPeanut · 22/09/2020 21:41

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'Its not done in some sort of competition with Johnson, who takes advice from Cummings, one of the worlds leading experts in manipulation.Johnson will be introducing far tighter restrictions v soon.'

🙄

England has a population of 54m, Scotland 5m. England has areas the same size of Scotland already in tighter restrictions. If it ends up that more areas have to be locked down that won't be because Nicola led the way, it will be responding to an ever changing situation.

But when NS makes different decisions based on Scotland's different circumstances, she's engaging in one-upmanship not just, you know, responding to the ever-changing circumstances of the country she governs?