To strongly dislike Nicola Sturgeon right now?

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Here to rant that Nicola has gone one step further and banned meeting in homes. She always feels the need to one-up Bojo, and hasn’t even given the rule of 6 she introduced last week a chance to see if it’s working.
Interested to know what the English think - do you think she’s taken it too far, or Bojo hasn’t taken it far enough?!

Seems like such a disparity that in England you can meet with 6 other households indoors and here none 🤯😡🤬😭😭

Yes Laguna, my highly educated family, all in professional jobs vote SNP.
Glasgow is a city with 5 Universities and numerous colleges - hardly an ill educated populace.

@StoneofDestiny
I think it was mass murdering witch?
For the ppl so offended by the word bitch Id call a man bitchy too 🤣🤣
Anti SNP deflection, they can run a woman into the ground but oh the horror someone used the word bitch 🤣🙄

I'd stopped reading, sorry if I missed it. (Damn that female conditioning forcing me to apologise!😆)

It was the hypocritical accusations of misogyny I was pointing out in an effort to enlighten.

I'm away now to do something less fruitless.

Do carry on though.

@SallySeven nobody needs your attempts at enlightenment, off you trot.

Yes SBT, it was indeed "mass murdering witch* - and no eye blinked at it. Says a lot when a person resorts to medieval insult.

@Ecosse

There's been 2506 deaths in Scotland not 4500.

Politician who spends many years trying to divide people and a country, suddenly asking people to work together?

The irony.

@luckylavender

What would you call someone then who has spent a good portion of their life training and learning to do a particular job, and then failing at it dismally? She's spent her life since 1999 learning to do the job she's got now, and shes not doing a good job. That's stupid. That's 21 years of her life she's essentially wasted, because all she's doing is ruining scotland.

And to whoever said that they'd rather have our education system than England's, that's the same as saying you'd rather have covid than ebola. Both are diseases that could kill you, just one has a higher chance, doesn't mean you should have to pick the lesser of two evils. We should actually want more from our politicians, not accept mediocrity just because of where they were born. We should expect more from sturgeon and expect a better education system than what we have. She has failed us and she knows it. We shouldn't sit back and go 'well it's better than England, it will do'. It bloody should be better already, she has a smaller population to deal with. Her job is easier.

It's a pity that the thread has got derailed by personal comments re NS (but I guess it IS titled: 'AIBU to strongly dislike NS right now'

It should be about her policies and esp handling of the current crisis.

Personal stuff is so subjective. I told my tale earlier of the Pizza Express encounter precisely because I had to laugh at my own cognitive dissonance re NS she was so charming I was bowled over!
I don't like many SNP policies, esp re education or their control over media / their own MP's. The Supreme Court called them wrong over Named Person quite correctly. She has not called all the C-19 decisions correctly - re the walking tour of Edinburgh, re Aberdeen, re Glasgow local lockdown vs National Action. But she's better than BJ

NS is a very effective SNP leader. BJ is a poor PM / Tory leader, imo.

If you look at the stats behind who voted yes and who voted no, the split along the lines of education is quite stark

This kind of arrogance is exactly why some people will never understand why the independence vote did not go their way, and why they will lose next time too.

I once met Margaret Thatcher and she was charming too in person - it is one of the essential skills!

Personally, I think she's doing a good job, but I'm happy to accept other people take a different view

I hate all the personal digs about her appearance / her voice. That does seem like misogyny against a strong female leader

The issue is that the country is completely divided and asides from a small minority, no-one is likely to listen to anyone and change sides.

I feel it's all a bit emperors new clothes, I see people raving about her and wonder if no-one else can see what I do. That's not true though as the naysayers tend to be less vocal. I've said before that the only peoples political persuasions I am aware of are snp supporters. They seem compelled to post memes and various stuff about it on their SM all the time. I wonder sometimes if they get paid by the post/comment.

She has some good leadership qualities, is intelligent and articulate and hardworking. However, I'd say she is also skeekit and underhand and a control freak amongst other things.

I could go on all day but the problem mainly is that there is a dearth in talent in politics right across the UK so she gets to look like she is a good option.

Personally I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire but she is playing a good game for herself and her party, not so much for the people of Scotland.

People take digs at Boris's appearance all the time but I wouldn't stoop so low on either of them. That's just bullying imo.

I've met NS in a social/professional capacity (drinks and nibbles after a professional event) and she clocked me straight away. It's like she could literally tell that I wasn't likely to be one of her fans and she was quite curt and disengaged with me as quickly as possible. I'd love to get an opportunity to debate with her on TV, especially on on the EU and on human rights, which are my specialist fields.

I actually found her a bit disappointing, as I used to meet a lot of judges and politicians in the EU, and they were all much more personable and warm than her. She is very "quick" and can be dismissive. The media here don't question her in nearly eniugh depth and she is allowed to monologue far too much.

I don't really give much credit to all the talk about joining the EU - it's unlikely to happen and Scottish Government legislation is moving further away from what the EU would find acceptable every year. So much of it is in breach of EU Competition law. The next thing to go in Scotland once Brexit is done will be freedo of information rights.

Which will be interesting for people in future years trying to assess how effective all these anti virus restrictions are.

you look at the stats behind who voted yes and who voted no, the split along the lines of education is quite stark

This kind of arrogance is exactly why some people will never understand why the independence vote did not go their way, and why they will lose next time too

What are you talking about? The poster is inferring Yes voters are less intelligent than no voters, the vote did go No the last time....

I once met Margaret Thatcher and she was charming too in person

she failed to charm Scotland!

I could go on all day but the problem mainly is that there is a dearth in talent in politics right across the UK so she gets to look like she is a good option.

See that's the thing. You can make anyone (maybe not trump) look good when you compare them to boris. He's completely useless. But that doesn't mean we should accept uselessness just based on the fact that it's better than one other option. Although God knows there aren't actually many good options available.. I can't think of any sadly.

If she actually stopped her independence campaign for a while, knuckled down and sorted out education, NHS, police, and everywhere else that has been neglected while we spend lots of money on flyers for independence, she'd actually have a lot more support for independence and it would be a landslide of a win. I'd even vote for her. But I will not vote for incompetence and that's all I see right now. Why give her more power when she can't handle what she has? She has no excuses. Prove she can lead us properly then go independent. Don't make promises on how it will be better after, I do not believe promises from a politician.

@KeepingPlain - that's your opinion but 'stupid' is still the wrong word. I strongly disagree with Farage & most of what he stands for & I think he's destroyed the U.K. But he's not stupid, he's an arch manipulator. Johnson isn't stupid either, he's lazy & self serving.

I am also in Scotland and as upsetting as it is that I can no longer go and sit in my parents house. I think Nicola has been doing a great job through this whole thing and I am not a fan of hers. The numbers are going up and we need to protect the vulnerable in society. My dad is really high risk and I would like to make sure he survives this. So suck it up buttercup.

Only a total idiot thinks this is about "getting one over" on Johnson. She's doing her job like it or loathe it.
He's fucking his own reputation with each passing day. He doesn't need anyone to do it for him.

One thing that peed me off were the adverts that went on about how well we were doing when we were not. We were doing (at that point) marginally better than England but we should have been doning better simply given our population density, point at which we started lockdown, bame levels etc.

You can make anyone (maybe not trump) look good when you compare them to boris. Much as I agree about Trump, Biden is doing his best to look a worse option given his proven lies, sexual behaviours and Alzheimers (granted this is not his fault but does make him less of a good choice for a leader). Despite all the complaints, I can see Trump getting a second term even if the press/media show a complete bias. But I digress....

He's fucking his own reputation with each passing day. He doesn't need anyone to do it for him

He's living up to his reputation - he was and he is, a shagaholic, self serving, puerile, lying, amoral buffoon who fitted in perfectly with the values of the Bullingdon Club.

I think a lot of it with politicians is down to spin. I'm not a fan of Boris, but the Scottish press is spectacularly feeble in holding Scottish politucuans to account. Possibly because any journalist with any ambition moves to London. It's astonishing that so many people cannot see through NS using a DAILY press briefing to her favour.

I also find the puritanical image tied in with supposedly "good" politucuans a bit archaic. Yes, Nicola, with her scandal free marriage to a much older man, her thinly veiled pursuit of her odious predessecor Salmond (whom no doubt the same posters were waxing lyrical in favour of til he lost the last I dependence vote) and her disinterest in foreign travel and luxury, makes her the poster woman of the Calvinistic remnants of puritanical Scotland. You aren't even supposed to have holiday homes here (unlike the Scandinavian countries) and woe betide if you try to run an Air B&B - hotels and licensed guest houses are best for Scots!