To strongly dislike Nicola Sturgeon right now?

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Here to rant that Nicola has gone one step further and banned meeting in homes. She always feels the need to one-up Bojo, and hasn’t even given the rule of 6 she introduced last week a chance to see if it’s working.
Interested to know what the English think - do you think she’s taken it too far, or Bojo hasn’t taken it far enough?!

Seems like such a disparity that in England you can meet with 6 other households indoors and here none 🤯😡🤬😭😭

So yes if you think the Great Leader broadcasting daily without criticism along the lines of Orwell's "1984"is a good thing. In other countries, more people would see through it

The PM of Great Britain and his senior ministers refuse to be interrogated by the British media regarding their policies - so denying the public a critical view of the direction the country is being led in - that is 1984!

in other countries people would see through it.......there you go again! Do you really believe their is some superior intellect in mainland European countries and that somehow Scotland is inferior? Now that is a Zenophobic attitude.

Everyone knows its more expensive to get a car ferry from Aberdeen to Lerwick than from Newcastle or Hull to Holland because the SNP punish Shetland for not voting SNP
Rubbish - it's more expensive because there is less traffic going on that route. Always has been and long predates SNP dominance. Off course 'rich Shetlanders' will fly - surely?

She's using the Coronavirus crisis as a free daily party political broadcast Derxa! I can separate public information announcements from party politics. You seem to be suggesting that Scots are badly educated and stupid. Nice try.

She would argue whichever is opposite to Boris. She's only interested in independence and it's wearingthin now. I'm a proud Scot but equally a proud Brit.

She's using the Coronavirus crisis as a free daily party political broadcast Derxa!

As opposed to BJ’s long slow suicide note...

@Ludo19 100% with you .

@Aridane 😂😂😂love that comment

She's using the Coronavirus crisis as a free daily party political broadcast Derxa! It's nothing but product placement

Of course she is. Yes she does the daily figures and the rules but then slides in a wee dig about how if she had tax raising powers she;d extend the furlough scheme, or how BoJo hasn't spoken to her in months.

It’s lovely to see the nastiness and misogyny is alive and well on MN.
Some utterly pathetic and outright vile comments directed at a FM trying her best to protect the population and making decisions based on clinical and scientific information but let’s name call her, criticise her appearance. I’d rather have her any day of the week than the bumbling incompetent Johnson.
If she didn’t bring in restrictions and the R number continues to rise, she’s be getting attacked for that.
What do you nasty bitches on here want? No restrictions so you can put ppl at risk? It’s being reviewed in 3 weeks.
See when your braying about the union and hating SNP and clapping your NHS, cast your minds back to the 70s/80s when the Tories destroyed industry in Scotland and near brought this country to its knees, have a think about the cronyism in the Tory party, millions handed out in useless projects. SNP at least have our best interests at heart, what other country in the world is dictated to by a neighbouring country?
This thread is full of disgusting comments and the women making them need a hard look at themselves.

How can anyone be so patronising as to assume that someone else hasn't visited different parts of the UK, just because they are a foreign national?

My comment to you about 'travel' I have explained, and predated you mentioning 'I'm Dutch honey'. I'll be clearer then - your mind, not just your body, needs to travel and take a wider perspective than you have got now.

Scotland's control of their own affairs is essential. The people of Skye had to pay to get in and out of their island until the Scottish Executive removed the tolls in 2004, 'sweeping away one of the last vestiges of the Conservative era'. Scots have a choice who they vote for, they will vote who represents their country's interest best. Problem is, while being part of the UK their best interests are torpedoed by getting a Tory PM that does not give a fig about Scotland, and is infamous for publishing an anti Scottish racist poem when he was editor of The Spectator.

I like her. Shes a competent politician and a working class girl who got herself into this role. Not some privileged toff who went to the right school and has no idea how ordinary people live. I believe she has the best interests of the Scottish peoples health. Why so many Scots are happy to be continually ruled by a Tory government beats me??

@luckylavender

I can call her stupid because she is. It's what I would define someone as who has failed at their job in so many ways. She has failed on education, she has failed on the NHS, she has failed on care homes and she has failed on the police. Everything that she handles in her devolved government, she has failed on. Granted, her predecessor that slimeball Alex salmond did no better. Her buddies like Ian Blackford are a complete and utter shambles and they will no doubt take guidance from her, so their failings are hers too. It's her party after all and she is not leading them well. If someone else made these amount of mistakes in their job, they'd be fired. She's safe because the majority of Scots will only vote snp. Although hopefully this year might make them see sense finally.

She might talk well, say the right words, but what has she actually done to make this place better? I'm struggling to think of anything that has improved in recent years.

StoneofDestiny there aren't even motorways between Aberdeen or Inverness and Edinburgh or Glasgow! It's dual carriageways or single carriageways! I cannot think of any other modern country that still hasn't managed to build motorways between its main cities! As for the Edinburgh bypass and the rail system! Are there still currently no trains between Aberdeen and Edinburgh or Glasgow?

I'm really turned off by cult like following of particular leaders and political parties. I know when you're obsessed with someone or something, it's difficult to cope with criticism. Hugs.

It’s lovely to see the nastiness and misogyny is alive and well on MN.

This is such a lazy argument. We couldn't possible dislike the Great Leader because of her policies, tribalism and failure to call out the nasty and xenophobic element of her support. We couldn't possibly disagree with her handling of Covid-19.

It's entirely because she's a woman.

Everyone knows its more expensive to get a car ferry from Aberdeen to Lerwick than from Newcastle or Hull to Holland because the SNP punish Shetland for not voting SNP

Rubbish - it's more expensive because there is less traffic going on that route. Always has been and long predates SNP dominance. Off course 'rich Shetlanders' will fly - surely?

If its rubbish, why does Shetland not vote snp? If they like her, why do they not want her leading them? Why did they vote against independence?

They have their reasons. Its obvious enough.

There is utter frustration from the Welsh and Scottish governments about the lack of united leadership from Johnson, specifically at this time. United Kingdom - don't think so:

Mark Drakeford, the Welsh first minister, said there was a “vacancy” at the heart of the UK government and argued his country’s porous border with England made it crucial for the prime minister to communicate directly with him regularly
The Scottish first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, backed Drakeford, saying the UK was at “the most critical point of decision-making” since March, and calling for a Cobra meeting involving the heads of all four nations to be convened immediately
There is growing frustration in the Welsh and Scottish governments at a lack of direct communication from Johnson. Drakeford said he had only spoken to the prime minister once since the end of May, while Sturgeon said she could not remember the last time she talked to him.
At a press conference on Friday, Drakeford said there were lockdowns in north-west England, close to the Welsh border, and “speculation” of a “circuit-breaking” lockdown across England but he had had no recent direct communication from the prime minister
“I make this argument not because we should all do the same things, but because being round the same table allows each of us to make the best decisions for the nations we represent
Sturgeon called for an immediate Cobra meeting, warning that politicians needed to act “quickly, decisively, early” to prevent the virus getting out of control again

(worth remembering that Germany hasn't a great record at choosing democratic, non shouty leaders historically!)

Le sigh.

And that country has a specifically constructed constitution to stop that happening ever again. Whereas the UK with it's laughably undemocratic FPTP system still elects utter wankspangles like Johnson. As they say here: crack on.

@IncandescentSilver

StoneofDestiny there aren't even motorways between Aberdeen or Inverness and Edinburgh or Glasgow! It's dual carriageways or single carriageways! I cannot think of any other modern country that still hasn't managed to build motorways between its main cities! As for the Edinburgh bypass and the rail system! Are there still currently no trains between Aberdeen and Edinburgh or Glasgow?

I'm really turned off by cult like following of particular leaders and political parties. I know when you're obsessed with someone or something, it's difficult to cope with criticism. Hugs.

Yes, this is the thing. For the past 300 years, spending on infrastructure in Scotland has been tiny. Partly due to political will prior to devolution. But also because anywhere north of Stirling has been treated as a holiday home for the elite. They don't want their views ruined by motorways or hydro electric power stations.

Weirdly, in the 70s when all that oil money started pouring in, very little was used on infrastructure in Scotland. It was used to build up major infrastructure in London and was used as a catalyst to move from heavy industries to financial services.

SNP at least have our best interests at heart

Breathtaking naivety. SNP have their own best interests at heart. Just like any other political party.

I don’t agree with some of her policies but she’s doing a good job here. Again she is on GMB this morning defending her decisions.

Worth noting that Scottish Independence does not equal SNP rule.

Plenty arguments here which echo those of the last referendum I.e. I hate SNP and therefore I’m against Scottish independence. Segments of other political parties also supported independence (e.g. Labour for Independence). Scottish Greens also backed Scottish Independence. SNP will get us over the line but once independent, we will elect whichever party wins the majority.

@KeepingPlain - she is still clearly not stupid. You may think she's dishonest, disingenuous, playing politics, whatever. But she is not stupid.

Comparing Scotland with England is not exactly equitable as England has 10 times the population but only 1.6 times the space so population is density is higher, however there is very little difference between infection or death rates per million, they are very very slightly better in Scotland apart from care homes where they are very slightly worse,

England is not comparable with Sweden but Scotland could be mostly rural with a few larger cities and similar population density, there is not much difference in results. The harder lockdown in Spain and France didn't stop second wave. In reality the differences between rules in the 4 nations are on about 5-10% of the rules / numbers the other 90-95% are practically identical

however there is very little difference between infection or death rates per million, they are very very slightly better in Scotland Stats please
As for population density, you've clearly never been to the central belt.

'Comparing Scotland with England is not exactly equitable as England has 10 times the population but only 1.6 times the space so population is density is higher, however there is very little difference between infection or death rates per million,'

Exactly, I've been saying this throughout. Also England does have stricter restrictions in high rate areas. I can’t believe the Scots are falling for it, imagine living in an area with very low infection rates and compliant residents but you can't visit your family all because Sturgeon daren't just do a targeted approach at the densely populated areas like the UK government.

@DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult

It’s not been that bad up here really and yet we’ve always had it stricter.

Doesn't that tell you something.

I think she has been great through this, far better than Bojo and his waffling.

You’ve had it worse, relatively speaking. More cases per 100,000 and a much higher R rate. 🤷‍♀️

But also because anywhere north of Stirling has been treated as a holiday home for the elite. They don't want their views ruined by motorways or hydro electric power stations

Think you’ve described The Cotswolds (and any English National Park area.