To strongly dislike Nicola Sturgeon right now?

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Here to rant that Nicola has gone one step further and banned meeting in homes. She always feels the need to one-up Bojo, and hasn’t even given the rule of 6 she introduced last week a chance to see if it’s working.
Interested to know what the English think - do you think she’s taken it too far, or Bojo hasn’t taken it far enough?!

Seems like such a disparity that in England you can meet with 6 other households indoors and here none 🤯😡🤬😭😭

Are you for real?!!! utter nonsense!

35 Billion is a larger sum that 62 Billion in your world then?

I don't like NS nor do I like BJ. Don't think either of them are doing a very good job. Obviously rates are lower in Scotland because it's smaller than England.
To my mind they should just lift restrictions and let the virus get on with it.
It's what Denmark did and they have virtually
no cases.

Denmark locked down 10 days earlier than the UK and has only eased restrictions very gradually. Perhaps if the UK had locked down at the same time, our original spread would have been contained far better, we would not have suffered anything like the number of infections and deaths we have, the virus would have been more effectively suppressed, and our easing of restrictions may have been far easier to manage without a resurgence in infections.

I cant atand her as she refused to lock down Glasgow. It then spread areound Glasgow. The only resteiction was not houng to others houses.

When Aberdeen had 82 cases we had a severe lockdown.

As it stands Tayaide, highlabds and Grampian have low cases and we are being restricted sue to issues in the west. The womans a disgrace

I loathe her and always have.

She has done a terrible job.

Most of her supporters are in Glasgow which is why we now have rules affecting the whole country.

The fact remains that scotland has a massive obesity, poverty and deprivation problem and these issues are worse in areas where she has most votes. So she will kill her own voters by doing anything else now.

I don’t like Nicola Sturgeon.........I don’t like her as she’s a liar and she doesn’t respect the democratic process

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Hilarious - Johnson's lies have become the stuff of legend and illegally proroguing Parliament and breaking International Law shows he really is unfit to lead a democratic country!

I know its the "hard as nails" image that makes Scotland a laughing stock with my Danish and German friends

So? Your German and Danish friends can choose the leader they want for their own countries! (worth remembering that Germany hasn't a great record at choosing democratic, non shouty leaders historically!)

As for Orkney and Shetland - their allegiances have long pointed in other directions, long predating NS and moves for Scottish Independence.

NS is a highly articulate and straight talking leader, willing to be cross examined on TV for her views and her policies. Johnson is hiding behind his bluster and buffoonery, refusing to be cross examined on TV, or permit his senior ministers or ad isles to be. Soon as one attracts too much attention they are hidden - seen Rees Mogg or Cummings lately anyone?

I went to The Meadows this week lots of times and people are just having a party down there!

Substitute Bournemouth, Brighton, Manchester, Oldham,...............etc etc for The Meadows and you'll find picture can be appear quite similar.

I think you will find that there is a silent majority in Scotland who despise Nicola and her government. But they are drowned out by the vocal majority, who are often unilaterally breathtakingly nasty about any opposition. Sadly the way the vote works in Scotland it's almost impossible to remove the SNP from power. God help us if they ever achieve independence (I don't believe that they will, again there was a silent majority who did not speak up because of the bile unleashed at anyone who did, hence SNP were very sure they would win), she will destroy what is left of Scotland.

Posted 1 hour ago on BBC website:

Hospitality venues will also have to close early in Scotland and Wales - but Scotland has gone further, banning people from visiting other people's homes from Wednesday. Northern Ireland has also already banned households mixing indoors.
The government's chief medical adviser, Prof Chris Whitty, is understood to believe it is inevitable England will to have to follow Scotland's latest move, according to the Times.
Conservative MPs also expect limits on visits to households to be "the next step", according to Nicholas Watt, political editor of the BBC's Newsnight
"They don't like it but they could probably live with it," he said, though he added that if the government went further with restrictions on the hospitality sector "that would really create insurrection on the Tory benches"

@RedRawShoulder

I think you will find that there is a silent majority in Scotland who despise Nicola and her government. But they are drowned out by the vocal majority, who are often unilaterally breathtakingly nasty about any opposition. Sadly the way the vote works in Scotland it's almost impossible to remove the SNP from power. God help us if they ever achieve independence (I don't believe that they will, again there was a silent majority who did not speak up because of the bile unleashed at anyone who did, hence SNP were very sure they would win), she will destroy what is left of Scotland.

The way the system is set up for holyrood elections makes it very hard to get a majority, the SNP command a really strong vote.

Opinion polls consistently show SNP support is strong.

I agree a minority dislike the SNP but blaming the electoral system is back to front - the Scottish system is noting like the UK system where minority winners command parliamentary majorities.

I think you will find that there is a silent majority in Scotland who despise Nicola and her government. But they are drowned out by the vocal majority

Nope - can't really have two majorities 🙄

The majority voted SNP in.

The majority of people of voting age in Scotland did not vote for the Snp. This sort of fake statement is typical of the thick "its all hunky dory in paradise" attitude of SNP supporters.

Not being able to do basic arithmetic is farcical.

@IncandescentSilver

The majority of people of voting age in Scotland did not vote for the Snp. This sort of fake statement is typical of the thick "its all hunky dory in paradise" attitude of SNP supporters.

Not being able to do basic arithmetic is farcical.

I thought it was SNP supporters who were supposed to be aggressive

[quote Nosenseofhumour]@Onemorefortheroad totally agree. She's careful not to mention independence despite goading by some press questions. The tone of some of the comments on this thread make me despair. "She's copying him". "She's only doing it to score points". "We call her Jimmy Krankie". Like how original, no one's ever said that before 🙄 Agree or disagree with her politics, that's legitimate and to be encouraged. Silly personal comments are misogynistic and don't do the commenter any favours. [/quote]
It really is misogyny. Heard someone the other day saying they can't stand Nicola, won't listen to a word she says and will only listen to Jason Leitch... eh?? They are literally saying the same message! 🙈

Btw I didn't say a clear majority of the electorate voted for the SNP, just that the system is set up to make it much harder to get a majority in Holyrood, compared to the UK system.

I'm not Scottish so don't have an axe to grind.

What is notable in Scotland is low turnout for holyrood elections?

SNP currently polling at over 50% so unlikely to see any change soon, unless something major changes.

[quote Notfeelinggreattoday]@LagunaBubbles because people were saying only Ns is mentioned and not wales and NI as they are run by men , and people only disliked ns as she is a woman as they were not complaining about bi and wales rules being different [/quote]
Arlene Foster is not a man.

More her party really. Id probably be politically alligned with most of them except their insistance that their nationalism isnt the usual dirty habit,the mad over sensitivity and tendency to claim their country took no part in the british empire or associated nastiness of the period.

@Laaalaaaa

If she’d got a grip on Glasgow, she might not have had to ban people meeting in houses. Other areas have such small numbers - it’s ridiculous.

Yes, she was quick enough to lockdown Aberdeen and to a lesser extent D&G, but no Glasgow is exempt!

Wonder if it is because Aberdeen and D&G didn’t vote SNP in the last election, but Glasgow did?? Don’t want to upset SNP voters do we!!

1,450,000 voters in Scotland voted for parties other than the SNP in the last general election. Nearly 700,000 voted Conservative. 1,250,000 voted SNP, which is 45% of the electorate, yet they gained 48 out of 59 seats on that minority vote.

Turnout in Scotland was 68%.

Therefore statistics show that a large majority of Scottish people did not vote for the Snp in the last general election in Scotland. They only won a majority of seats and part of the reason for that is that their vote is heavily condensed in inner city areas and the poverty-stricken conurbations of Glasgow and the west of Scotland, and Dundee.

It's hard to explain the sheer hatred that many people in Scotland have for the Snp. Beyond the over-prolific fans who spam the media, they are almost universally hated in rural Scotland, by farmers and fisherman, and by business people (at least those who aren't benefitting from the scam that is Scottish Enterprise and mysteriously receiving large sums to prop up their failing SMEs year after year).

The control that the Snp has over the media in Scotland is sickening. Other countries do not allow it. Sonething is going seriously wrong with the lack of Constitutional checks and balances in Scotland and loss of seperation of powers. In terms of standard of living and provision of basic public services such as roads, motorways between cities, public transport and basic things such as keeping streets clean, providing footpaths, provision of safe iedestrian crossing points and collecting rubbish, it's more like Lithuania or Latvia. Edinburgh City Centre opposite John Lewis has been a weed-strewn mess for years now.

How typical of the Snp supporter up thread to suggest that I "need to travel more" when I'm actually Dutch and have worked in 5 other European countries. The xenophobia is astounding.

they are almost universally hated in rural Scotland, by farmers and fisherman Our rural payment is usually late and I don't think NS cares much about farmers. However I like Nicola's clear messaging. She faces the press every week day.

How typical of the Snp supporter up thread to suggest that I "need to travel more" when I'm actually Dutch and have worked in 5 other European countries. The xenophobia is astounding

And how typical of you not to explain your comment when asked 'what has your nationality got to do with it?

My comment was in regard to you pounding forth the view that Scottish roads were bad and redundancies were high (including your own I believe).I was pointing out the same was happening in England - hence, you needed to travel more - specifically in the UK. Your '"I'm Dutch honey" was a bizarre response.

No xenophobia from me - likewise I've worked internationally and in Scotland and England. Your view of your 'pals' in Germany, Holland, Denmark etc are irrelevant, it's the voters in Scotland that count when it comes to Scottish affairs.

She's using the Coronavirus crisis as a free daily party political broadcast Derxa! It's nothing but product placement. Do you seriously think someone as manipulative as NS would turn such an opportunity down?

So yes if you think the Great Leader broadcasting daily without criticism along the lines of Orwell's "1984"is a good thing. In other countries, more people would see through it. Which brings me back to the education system in Scotland...

Stoneofdestiny I have been to every single county in the UK. I've just spent 3 weeks in Shetland, which is more than NS has ever done, although people there did vertell me that at the last bi-election, she did try popping up everywhere, such as the Unst Show, on a campaign blitz. It still didn't work because they are natural liberals who are wary of state control. Everyone knows its more expensive to get a car ferry from Aberdeen to Lerwick than from Newcastle or Hull to Holland because the SNP punish Shetland for not voting SNP. Fortunately, Shetland is too rich to care.

How can anyone be so patronising as to assume that someone else hasn't visited different parts of the UK, just because they are a foreign national? And why do SNP supporters always use the word "pals" to denigrate educated associates. These are the people Scotland would have to win over to make a successful EU membership application - not that that is likely.

Just remind me of what happened to that lovely piece of legislation, named person's again? (where every Scottish child was to have a state appointed guardian who could overrule the parents).

Or what would have happened to the minimum alcohol pricing legislation were the UK not coming out of the EU? After the decision by the European Court of Justice Advocate-General that it breached EU law? You will recall that the Scotch Whisky Association actually took the Scottish Government to court!