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BJ in Italy?

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Cam77 · 21/09/2020 10:40

This claim is all over the news now, but here it is from the original source.

Exclusive: according to an official statement of the Italian airport dated September 17th, the British prime minister “travelled to Perugia over the past few days”. (He aphas visited many times in the past. On this occasion, apparently a long weekend for his son’s baptism)

Official Airport Sources: “Johnson landed in Perugia on Friday 11 September at 2 pm and left on Monday morning”.

Downing Street: “This claim is wrong”

So, either that airport is engaging in massive shit stirring (libel?) or Downing Street is lying and the whole government should resign.

OP posts:
PicsInRed · 22/09/2020 10:19

So Wilf is baptised on the 12th and Boris flies to Perugia on the 13th. Pretty rubbish alibi that one.

Anyone else Hmm at the revelation Carrie is a committed Catholic who speaks publicly of her faith? I despair and Marina's eyes must roll right out of her head.

Itsabeautifuldayheyhey · 22/09/2020 10:20

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8758129/Boris-Johnsons-son-Wilfred-christened-catholic-Westminster-Cathedral-confirms.html

For those who don't want to click on the link, here are the salient points:
"Boris Johnson and his fiancée Carrie Symonds had their son Wilfred christened a Catholic, the largest Catholic cathedral in England and Wales has confirmed.

Westminster Cathedral said the couple had their four-month-old son baptised there in a ceremony on September 12 by Father Daniel Humphreys.

The Prime Minister and Ms Symonds, who has previously talked about her Catholic faith on social media, were reportedly holding Wilfred as he was baptised.

Crucially, it gives Mr Johnson an airtight alibi after he was accused of flying into Italy that weekend for a jaunt despite the twin crises of Brexit and coronavirus.

A spokesman for Westminster Cathedral told the newspaper: 'I can confirm that he was baptised at Westminster Cathedral on September 12. It was a private event.'

The Prime Minister had been accused of leaving the UK for Italy after newspaper La Repubblica published an article carrying a statement from Perugia Airport which claimed that Mr Johnson had passed through 'in the last few days'.

It was accompanied by a quote from an airport source, saying that he landed on Friday, September 11 at around 2pm.

The airport was forced to retract its claim when No10 said the allegations were 'completely untrue' - and revealed that staff had him muddled with Tony Blair.

An airport worker mistook a 'private citizen' arriving from Farnborough in Hampshire as the Prime Minister, the president of the airport said yesterday.

However after checking their registry and liaising with police, the airport found that the one passenger who had landed at the airport on September 12 was 'a private citizen and not Boris Johnson'.

Perugia Airport's president has now told the Daily Telegraph that Mr Johnson was 'definitely' not at the airport and staff mistook him for ex-Labour PM Mr Blair.

The withdrawal draws a line under a mystery that had Westminster puzzled.

On the Friday he was claimed to be in Italy, Mr Johnson was faced with MPs preparing to rebel on his international law-breaking Brexit legislation and rising numbers of coronavirus infections across the UK.

Mr Johnson has reportedly travelled to the airport before to visit his friend Evgeny Lebedev, owner of the Evening Standard, at his medieval castle.

According to one report Mr Johnson worked from Downing Street on the day in question and took part in a Zoom call with 256 Tory MPs on Brexit."

Nikori · 22/09/2020 10:21

I didn't say they were lying, but they never confirmed that he was actually there. They just said his son was baptised there. They are not releasing any photos of the event, which is fair enough. Maybe he was there, maybe he wasn't. Who can know for sure?

Itsabeautifuldayheyhey · 22/09/2020 10:31

@redlockscelt

Idon't believe a word of it, the President is trying to get the PM off the hook.
What about the staff of Westminster Cathedral?
Father Daniel Humphreys?
Are they lying too?

What about all the MPs who saw the Prime Minister in zoom at Downing Street? Have they all lied? (You can always tell when people have a background on zoom when they move).

You're showing yourself up as being really stupid here.

PerkingFaintly · 22/09/2020 10:38

No, she's showing Johnson up as such an inveterate liar that no one believes a word he says.

She's showing up that we want more reliable sources than Downing Street, and that we check who the sources are and what they've actually said not what they have merely implied.

I don't like being in this situation wrt the people running my country.

Itsabeautifuldayheyhey · 22/09/2020 10:40

"@Nikori*

'they never confirmed that he was actually there. They just said his son was baptised there"
What, you think he peed off to Italy and let his baby at Westminster Cathedral to be baptised whilst he was on a jolly? 😂😂😂

Can you read?:

"Westminster Cathedral said the couple had their four-month-old son baptised there in a ceremony on September 12 by Father Daniel Humphreys.

The Prime Minister and Ms Symonds, who has previously talked about her Catholic faith on social media, were reportedly holding Wilfred as he was baptised. "

Is that clear enough for you?

Itsabeautifuldayheyhey · 22/09/2020 10:46

She's showing up that we want more reliable sources than Downing Street, and that we check who the sources are and what they've actually said not what they have merely implied.
Westminster Abbey staff are surely reliable sources.

CaptainVanesHair · 22/09/2020 10:52

Those Italy visits are well known though, aren’t they!? He has services to purchase there Envy

redlockscelt · 22/09/2020 10:58

@Itsabeautifuldayheyhey

She's showing up that we want more reliable sources than Downing Street, and that we check who the sources are and what they've actually said not what they have merely implied. Westminster Abbey staff are surely reliable sources.
They are now I know what they have said, when I posted it was only the word of the airport and I can't see anybody confusing Tony Blair and Boris Johnson unless they have extreme sight problems.
Thisisworsethananticpated · 22/09/2020 10:59

So what ? Why is this an issue

Notfeelinggreattoday · 22/09/2020 11:26

Surely airports shouldn't be given out this info any way due to data protection
Yes a passenger can say they see him but an airport itself

Notfeelinggreattoday · 22/09/2020 11:33

People looking for a story where there isn't one and even if he was its not breaking any rules and over a weekend
So much more to concentrate and hold him to task on than wether he was in italy or not

Friendsoftheearth · 22/09/2020 11:36

The italians mess up Boris with Tony Blair and people are still banging on about this even though the Italian authorities have since apologised for the mistake.

Boris was in London at the christening of his own child.

Dreadful fake news.

BrandyandBabycham · 22/09/2020 11:41

Did anyone else think the post might be about something else entirely?!!

Nikori · 22/09/2020 13:09

The airport initially said that both Tony Blair and Boris Johnson had visited recently. A source said "the British Prime Minister arrived "on Friday September 11th at 2 pm and left on Monday September 14th at 7.45”, while former PM Tony Blair was reported to be in Perugia from 8 to 11 September, according to the same source."

The airport is now saying that this was a mistake and when they said Tony Blair and Boris Johnson, they just meant Tony Blair and while a private jet did arrive and leave at those times with a lone passenger from the UK, it wasn't actually Boris Johnson, it was someone else and the airport source was mistaken in thinking it was Boris Johnson. A bit of an odd mistake, but fair enough.

Westminster cathedral confirmed that the baptism took place at the weekend, but made no mention of whether the PM actually attended or not. The papers said that both parents "reportedly" held the baby, but no source was given for this info. There are no public photos of the baptism to confirm his attendance.

The PM's only real alibi is a Zoom call.

Now, why on earth wouldn't the PM attend his son's baptism? Well, we do know that there have been rumours of his alleged affair with a violinist trending on Twitter. I suppose it's not beyond the realms of possibility that his fiancee might be a tad upset by these rumours and have kicked him out. He did attend an event recently on his own which was commented on by the press.

But, as I said, it's hard to tell for sure either way. It's just all very odd and the story from DS has more holes than a slice of Swiss cheese.

SheepandCow · 22/09/2020 17:40

Perhaps Boris and Tony planned a secret dirty weekend together...?

It won't be the first time Tory and Labour holidayed together. Some years back it was George Osborne and Peter Mandelson on a yacht.

nosswith · 22/09/2020 17:55

I wonder who the godparents were?

If I met the Pope I would ask for Mr Johnson to be excommunicated.

user1471565182 · 22/09/2020 20:54

No Brandy, nobody thought that

EternalOptimist7 · 23/09/2020 09:14

user14711565182 just look at the beginning of the thread! Loads of people thought that!

EternalOptimist7 · 23/09/2020 09:16

user1471565182 just look at the beginning of the thread! Loads of people thought that!

SerenityNowwwww · 23/09/2020 11:25

Well I thought that... and I’m not even a particularly crude kind of person...

PicsInRed · 24/09/2020 11:10

No idea if Boris was in Italy, denials abound, but it turns out Carrie certainly is. Bit of a press hint there.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8763869/Carrie-Symonds-enjoys-five-star-Italian-holiday-Rishi-Sunak-unveils-urgent-measures-save-jobs.html

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