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To tell all the black mumsnetters we now have our own forum

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Marg33t · 16/09/2020 13:40

Thanks to the fab PatricksRum for fighting against racism we've got our own board here

Look for black mumsnetters 👍🏿

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Quaagars · 16/09/2020 20:31

I wish the new board massive success

Same

StormzyinaTCup · 16/09/2020 20:32

I have just read through to the end of this thread.

My opinion, fwiw, I think an internet chat forum should be run on opinion, views and advice and that skin colour shouldn't come into it unless its relevant/specific to the post. I wouldn't post on the Hair&Beauty board if a poster was asking advice on black hair but I might post if it was about why it's not a good idea to dye your hair red during lockdown Blush. As soon as you create a board for a specific group based on the colour of their skin it doesn't feel progressive, feels to me like a backward step and creates division, there is 24 pages of it here and counting (as if we aren't currently divided enough as it is).

If posters are on the end of offensive/racist comments on an existing board, then it should not be tolerated and should be reported and MN Mods should deal with it accordingly by way of deletion and/or a ban. If that's not happening then that's a failing of MNHQ.

EDSGFC · 16/09/2020 20:33

myrtleWilson

Which wasn't the point made was it?

A poster said that MN had set the rules and MN had named the board - so what's the relevance of trollers spamming the off site open poll? Did MN name the board?

Havaiana · 16/09/2020 20:33

But why isn't it regressive to have boards for LGBT, autism etc?

Lollee · 16/09/2020 20:35

Gosh, I thought we were all meant to be equal. Can you imagine the furore if there was a white mumsnetter? I have also seen black hair and beauty sites, and a magazine for black people only. I ask again, would those be tolerated if you swapped the word black for white.

Livelovebehappy · 16/09/2020 20:36

Gosh, 45% think it’s unreasonable though.......

Havaiana · 16/09/2020 20:38

Here is a website for blonde hair only

www.bblondehair.co.uk/

Where's the furore?

Bearbehind · 16/09/2020 20:39

But why isn't it regressive to have boards for LGBT, autism etc?

Because they don’t start off by stating that anyone who is not in this ‘category’ is banned from posting

This thread got out of hand due to the implication that you are entirely unwelcome to post in this section if you yourself are not black

LaceyBetty · 16/09/2020 20:39

I have been watching this and need to say that I am in shock that there has been any resistance to this. What is wrong with a board that is geared towards a specific lived experience. Step-parents, LGBTQ, Dads, Single Parents etc. The vitriol has shown why such a board is needed 100%.

GoldenKelpie · 16/09/2020 20:39

@StormzyinaTCup

I have just read through to the end of this thread.

My opinion, fwiw, I think an internet chat forum should be run on opinion, views and advice and that skin colour shouldn't come into it unless its relevant/specific to the post. I wouldn't post on the Hair&Beauty board if a poster was asking advice on black hair but I might post if it was about why it's not a good idea to dye your hair red during lockdown Blush. As soon as you create a board for a specific group based on the colour of their skin it doesn't feel progressive, feels to me like a backward step and creates division, there is 24 pages of it here and counting (as if we aren't currently divided enough as it is).

If posters are on the end of offensive/racist comments on an existing board, then it should not be tolerated and should be reported and MN Mods should deal with it accordingly by way of deletion and/or a ban. If that's not happening then that's a failing of MNHQ.

Mmm, makes sense.
Havaiana · 16/09/2020 20:39

Because they don’t start off by stating that anyone who is not in this ‘category’ is banned from posting

No one has said anyone is banned, stop stirring.

EarthlyTent · 16/09/2020 20:39

Gosh, 45% think it’s unreasonable though

There was a thread just a few days ago started by someone saying " I keep hearing people saying racism is rife onmumsnet, but is it really??? "

Whoever started that thread, it seems your question has now been definitively answered!

myrtleWilson · 16/09/2020 20:40

@EDSGFC I've already suggested that you could ask that question to @MNHQ - my point was that you were insinuating the name had come about via sneaky means - a closed poll; whereas the OP had to create another route to choose the name because of the racism explicit on the first poll. I would assume that the posters on the first poll didn't stumble across it randomly but rather were N/C from here or lurkers - neither of which is a good look really is it?

Quaagars · 16/09/2020 20:41

Because they don’t start off by stating that anyone who is not in this ‘category’ is banned from posting

For the gazillionth time, that has not been said.
Are people actually reading the thread or are they being wilfully obtuse?

Malahaha · 16/09/2020 20:42

[quote BadBanana]@Havaiana I’m black, can’t you read? I am saying I would think nothing of posting those topics on the normal mn sections, why not? Only people that are interested/knowledgable will mainly answer.

Don’t worry, all the black people objecting to this have been completely ignored.[/quote]
If you're black and don't feel a need for a black space -- don't go there. That's all. I have grandchildren but I'm not on gransnet. It's quite simple, really. I don't know why you're so upset. Nobody is forcing you to post on the black subforum. Others felt a need, canvassed for one, got it. Why not just let them be?

Phoenix21 · 16/09/2020 20:42

@Sanitisethat

You could play a racist drinking game with this thread

Not without an ambulance on standby Grin

🤣🤣🤣
PurpleHoodie · 16/09/2020 20:44

For those who want to contribute the the BMNetter section, and see what it's really about (compared to the spoutings over here) you'll find it under the Other section.

Some good opening posts there.

stayathomer · 16/09/2020 20:44

The reason its different (I think, sorry if I'm wrong) is because it's not fair to make a person have to describe themself every time they post to ask about things. Do I'm irish and every time I post I say I'm Irish because in Ireland obviously things as re different to the uk. We all know the default is white british so that means if people ask about some of the different things listed above they have to add I'm black. It's different me saying I'm irish because (whispers) I dont even think I'm meant to be on mn, but black british people are and they still have to clarify themselves

doadeer · 16/09/2020 20:44

@Lollee

Gosh, I thought we were all meant to be equal. Can you imagine the furore if there was a white mumsnetter? I have also seen black hair and beauty sites, and a magazine for black people only. I ask again, would those be tolerated if you swapped the word black for white.
We have these, they are called Grazia, Closer, stylist etc - all mainstream media assumes white as the norm and designs content based on that. Many make up brands stock shades 1-5 for Caucasian skin and 1/2 for darker tones. Skin tone plasters come in "nude" which is peachy colour. Again, white skin is the default.

We don't need "white orientated" magazines or TV programs or boards - because they all are this anyway! White is the majority and makes up the majority of the ruling elite.

stayathomer · 16/09/2020 20:45

Ps just remembered theres a craicnet for irish people on mn

Bearbehind · 16/09/2020 20:45

@Havaiana

Because they don’t start off by stating that anyone who is not in this ‘category’ is banned from posting

No one has said anyone is banned, stop stirring.

Haviana read the post on the first page at 14.35 which said ‘it was made clear it should be for black people only. No whites and no other 'races'’ and then explain to me why I’m ‘stirring’
Tellmetruth4 · 16/09/2020 20:46

I’m not saying this is in anyway an equal situation but this whole thing reminds me a bit about Black Wallstreet in the 1930s when blacks who were not allowed to participate in the mainstream financial system created their own financial district (with the support of some progressive whites I may add).

It became a big success and a large black upper and middle class emerged. In response some resentful racist white people decided to destroy it killing 300 people and burning down over 1000 houses and business in the district.

They wouldn’t let the blacks participate but they weren’t allowed to have their own thing either.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/black-wall-street-tulsa-race-massacre

Havaiana · 16/09/2020 20:46

@Bearbehind

Haviana read the post on the first page at 14.35 which said ‘it was made clear it should be for black people only. No whites and no other 'races'’ and then explain to me why I’m ‘stirring’

Because it's hearsay. Where's the actual quote of the person who said that?

Bearbehind · 16/09/2020 20:47

@Quaagars

Because they don’t start off by stating that anyone who is not in this ‘category’ is banned from posting

For the gazillionth time, that has not been said.
Are people actually reading the thread or are they being wilfully obtuse?

It has, quite clearly at 14.35

it was made clear it should be for black people only. No whites and no other 'races'.

Bearbehind · 16/09/2020 20:48

[quote Havaiana]@Bearbehind

Haviana read the post on the first page at 14.35 which said ‘it was made clear it should be for black people only. No whites and no other 'races'’ and then explain to me why I’m ‘stirring’

Because it's hearsay. Where's the actual quote of the person who said that?[/quote]
Ffs - that is the quote