To tell all the black mumsnetters we now have our own forum

[Marg33t]

Thanks to the fab PatricksRum for fighting against racism we've got our own board here

Look for black mumsnetters 👍🏿

@OnceUponAThimble I don’t for a minute believe you are mixed raced with black or that if you are, you have ever grown up around black people otherwise you wouldn’t be spouting your nonsense and so keen to prevent black women from discussing issues which particularly affect them.

I have met, luckily rarely, other mixed race (half black) people with no connection to the black side of their family, full of resentment and self hatred that they would bend over backwards to denigrate black peoples issues in an attempt to ingratiate themselves more with white people. It’s embarrassing to watch as they will never be seen as white.

I don’t believe I will be thrown out of the black board for being mixed raced because I’m respectful. I am close to my black family so am experienced in many issues. I have been called racist names and there are places I would be fearful of going on holiday due to my colour for example. Even 100% black people are extremely varied on skin type, culture, language. The experiences of a Nigerian poster will be different from a Trinidadian or a 1st gen immigrant from a 3rd gen. There are mixed raced people who are darker than some fully black people.. I’m sure there are hardly any black Caribbean families without mixed raced extended family members. My kids are 3/4 white but they know their Jamaican heritage as well as their British.

Black is a broad church and it’s a very welcoming one as long as you show respect. So remove the chip from your shoulder about being mixed raced and your fantasies about being excluded by the black women of MN.

I’ve perused LGBT boards etc because I’m interested in their experiences. I would never try and shut them down or shout them down. This is no different.

Not a group where white parents of black children won't be welcome

Where has anyone said that?
I know I saw a post where it was made clear that of course white people of black children can use it (will try and find) - why on earth wouldn't they be able to go and ask for help/advice from people who know more than say me on black issues/advice?
Sounds like people are just making stuff up now, that hasn;t been said at all.

I am not a racist thanks but I'm guesing black people can't be racists can they. hmm
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Are you sure you aren’t racist? Cuz you kinda sound like one.....

@SionnachRua

Yes why not and one for Polish and one for the people from south America and ones from blah blah blah..... and the list goes on.

Nonsense. You will have hundreda of boards all asking the same questions really but separated. This is daft! PC PC rubbish!

‘Racist trolls’

So anyone objecting to this weird regression is racist? Even the black people objecting to it?

Because I’ve got to say that I’ve found it disturbing. The majority of support for segregation has been from ‘I’m white, but’ posters, tripping over themselves for cookies. And black posters who found the idea offensive have been ignored.

At the end of the day I’m not going to get too worried about it. I predict it will be a dusty forgotten corner of MN before long (as most of us who understand how backwards it is avoid it like the plague and continue discussing things with any poster whose experiences are relevant, regardless of race.

I understand why MN had to do it, given the current climate. I imagine thought that it is only because they predict the same as me.

[quote Tellmetruth4]@OnceUponAThimble I don’t for a minute believe you are mixed raced with black or that if you are, you have ever grown up around black people otherwise you wouldn’t be spouting your nonsense and so keen to prevent black women from discussing issues which particularly affect them.

I have met, luckily rarely, other mixed race (half black) people with no connection to the black side of their family, full of resentment and self hatred that they would bend over backwards to denigrate black peoples issues in an attempt to ingratiate themselves more with white people. It’s embarrassing to watch as they will never be seen as white.

I don’t believe I will be thrown out of the black board for being mixed raced because I’m respectful. I am close to my black family so am experienced in many issues. I have been called racist names and there are places I would be fearful of going on holiday due to my colour for example. Even 100% black people are extremely varied on skin type, culture, language. The experiences of a Nigerian poster will be different from a Trinidadian or a 1st gen immigrant from a 3rd gen. There are mixed raced people who are darker than some fully black people.. I’m sure there are hardly any black Caribbean families without mixed raced extended family members. My kids are 3/4 white but they know their Jamaican heritage as well as their British.

Black is a broad church and it’s a very welcoming one as long as you show respect. So remove the chip from your shoulder about being mixed raced and your fantasies about being excluded by the black women of MN.

I’ve perused LGBT boards etc because I’m interested in their experiences. I would never try and shut them down or shout them down. This is no different.[/quote]
You could have saved yourself a half hour typing if you had read my post (I'm white).

So is this thread only for black MNers

No

CBA to read the whole thread
Says it all really

but I see that the OP has barely commented on a 7 page thread

Don't blame her to be honest if so, after the great work of getting the board set up, fielding off all the ridiculousness and attacks over the past few days, I hope she's having a lie down and a nap somewhere or cracked open the lol

I think it smacks of unwanted segregation.

And a backwards step. Surely anyone of any colour can post on everyday pages.

But if makes people happier, do so.

Am I on my own feeling really sad that this should be necessary? How are we ever to reach a more equal society if we all separate into our different groups? I suppose I'm old fashioned but it depresses me. I was reading about an online org. for black women knitters and thought how much I'd like to join because the craftwork looked so interesting but though I'm a woman, I'm not black and suspect I'm too old. I suppose someone is going to tell me off for this.

@OnceUponAThimble

I'm BAME, there will be times when I will need a safe place to post and I'm happy BMN exists

Well unless you black honey, you ain't welcome.

I'm not black. Why are you writing like an American?

To tell all the black mumsnetters we now have our own forum

Implies to me that this thread (think the OP is getting confused with thread and forum meanings - apologies if I've misunderstood) is only for black MNers.

[quote GoGadgetGo]@SionnachRua

Yes why not and one for Polish and one for the people from south America and ones from blah blah blah..... and the list goes on.

Nonsense. You will have hundreda of boards all asking the same questions really but separated. This is daft! PC PC rubbish![/quote]
Well, why not? Maybe Polish people would get value out of a PoleNet? Craicnet offers great value to me and I know I certainly wouldn't use it to ask questions that could be asked anywhere.

Let's say I'm choosing an Irish baby name - perhaps picking between Aoife and Niamh. I could go to Baby Names and deal with all of the "Ay-wuffer?! What sort of name is that? Think of if she came to England!!" types* or I could go to Craicnet. It's no skin off anyone's nose in Baby Names if I pick Craicnet.

• note to all in Baby Names, I know the vast majority of ye are actually great and wouldn't do that

Congratulations on this achievement.

@Tellmetruth4

I have met, luckily rarely, other mixed race (half black) people with no connection to the black side of their family, full of resentment and self hatred that they would bend over backwards to denigrate black peoples issues in an attempt to ingratiate themselves more with white people. It’s embarrassing to watch as they will never be seen as white.

So judgemental.
If that is what you think, maybe go to your new little forum and spout this rubbish. I hope the place shuts down!

@Sanitisethat

excuse me but it's clear white people aren't welcome there.

But why do you expect to be? What are you planning to contribute to threads where black people discuss their experiences of being black?

If you had conceived five children in the first month of trying every time, do you think your opinions would be welcomed on a thread about infertility? If you’re a beef farmer do you think your opinions would be welcome on a thread about becoming vegan? If you’re English do you think Scotsnet would welcome your opinions on a thread about Scottish schools?

Obviously you can still post on these threads if you want to. If it’s so important to you, go for it. But why would you expect to be welcomed when you don’t have any relevant experience and can’t relate to the subject?

And actually, you might find you are welcome if you’re being genuine and decent. I doubt you would face any opposition for starting a thread saying something like ‘can anyone recommend a good hairdresser for black hair in south Glasgow because my black friend has just moved here and is looking for a salon’. But if the thread is a discussion on how to style black hair and you leap in to say you don’t like afros, or think that braiding looks unprofessional, or that you prefer natural hair to chemically straightened hair, you can presumably see why nobody would want to hear your views...?

I'd really like the "this smacks of segregation, why so divisive, its reverse racism" posters to answer sanitisethat excellent points in paragraph two of this post....

I think it smacks of unwanted segregation.

How though, when it was a space that people asked for voluntarily, wanted it, and got it?
Nobody is forced to post on it, I could see your point if it was said that black people could only post in the new section, that's not what it is at all though!
They can still post wherever, but just have an own space now for advice like LGBT, Scotsnet etc.
I'm really struggling to understand why people have such a problem with people being able to talk among themselves, surely it's MORE equality, making everyone have a voice - if people want Polish boards or any others, campaign for one and if there's enough interest you might get one!

Hmmm @Quaagars a simple read of page one tells you exactly that! What a disgrace to exclude people like that..

Maybe all the white mns want a group that excludes the rest of us? It's a mn woke reaction and divisive. There would be uproar if a white group appeared and so there should be.

This group is excluding others by suggesting that other races and indeed those with an interest in using it, can't. Racism feels like that, doesn't it.

It’s embarrassing to watch as they will never be seen as white

My dc don't want to be seen as anything other than themselves. It's you who is bringing skin colour into it.

@TwilightSkies

*I am not a racist thanks but I'm guesing black people can't be racists can they. hmm Bookmark*

Are you sure you aren’t racist? Cuz you kinda sound like one.....

You would say that cos all white people are racist yeah.... ah dear! Grow up.

It reminds me of diversity meetings we've had (virtually) at work. It was only when we were a group of BAME people together that we could be honest about the racism we experienced at work. The presence of white people inhibited us. We felt we couldn't speak our feelings in case we hurt the white people in the room, even though they were supportive.

Well @OnceUponAThimble if you are white and married to a black guy with mixed race kids and spouting racist nonsense then either your DH doesn’t really know that side of you or he has massive issues. Your kids will potentially be like those seriously confused mixed raced people I mentioned upthread desperate to emphasis their whiteness over any blackness.

I’ve seen mixed raced kids in extended racist white families. It’s not good to witness in terms of their self esteem and identities.

@StormzyInaDCup

Hmmm *@Quaagars* a simple read of page one tells you exactly that! What a disgrace to exclude people like that..

Maybe all the white mns want a group that excludes the rest of us? It's a mn woke reaction and divisive. There would be uproar if a white group appeared and so there should be.

This group is excluding others by suggesting that other races and indeed those with an interest in using it, can't. Racism feels like that, doesn't it.

What is the screenshot supposed to tell us?

@DoubleDolphin, @Florencex, @Bearbehind, if you genuinely think that the creation of a board just for black MNetters is racist, then may I politely suggest that you absolutely don't understand what racism is, and should go and do some reading. It is not racist to have a place which excludes the 'oppressor', ie white people, just like it is not sexist to have a space just for women which excludes men. It just isn't.

How are white people the oppressor on an anonymous forum where colour is not known?

‘My dc don't want to be seen as anything other than themselves. It's you who is bringing skin colour into it.’

This is as ridiculous as saying ‘my daughter just wants to be seen as herself and will ignore being female’. So sexism, gender pay gaps, PMT, conception, going through ‘the change’ isn’t relevant to her then? She can just ignore it all and sing cumbyah?