How much do you end up spending on Botox and fillers per year

[Jodiewa]

I am 45 and beginning to look like hell. I know the price of Botox per thing but don’t know how much it ends up costing per year. How much do you end up sending year in year out? I am a Londoner. Thanks.

Actually, I'm sure if you just have the no 11 lines done twice a year, no-one would notice. It's getting sucked into the other stuff or overuse of Botox over the whole forehead that I think creates the slightly odd look. So that wouldn't be that expensive, if you can resist the temptation to try to fix the whole darn thing.

I’m one that would not have it. I’m not for sneering at those who do, however, and I’m glad it makes you feel more confident, but I wonder, don’t you think it’s sad that the natural ageing process makes you lack confidence and feel low about yourself? Again not judging, not individuals faults, but this says so much to me about how woman’s internal and externalised value is placed on how she looks. Wouldn’t it be better to spend our money and time on challenging this? Trying to change the way women are viewed and by extension how we view ourselves? Why does how we look have to be so tied up in our self worth? Its so sad.

I don't think they're jealous because they can't afford it necessarily, they're just judgemental because like many women, they've been socialised to assign moral values to things that have none. Botox is simply not a moral issue. If someone wants to think she's a better human than I am because she doesn't get it done, let her. She's obviously wrong, but she gets to feel morally superior and I get to look and feel nice. Win win.

Most of the cases where people think it's been overdone are not Botox, they're something else. It really doesn't change much, doesn't freeze your face either. I had heard so much vicious moral judgement about Botox before I started, I was a bit disappointed that it was literally 60 seconds of minor injections. I was expecting the doc to bring in a virgin for sacrificial burning or make me dance inside a pentangle or something.

• But don't you think it's worth saying that these things are not compulsory or even that common?

I'm sure the OP doesn't 'look like hell' just a normal 45 year old woman, and if you asked the question to a group of men, almost none of them would have it.

So it's doing women a disservice to not remind them that this is something that they don't 'have' to do.*

I think women are intelligent enough to understand it's not compulsory.

And I also think it's doing a disservice to women to suggest that they don't know that it's a choice. It's their body, their choice.

Oh, another misconception: the majority of people don't get Botox to make them look younger, just less frowny, angry and tired. I look my age with Botox, I just don't look like a serial killer my age.

There is a degree of restricted movement for a while after I have it, but not totally; I can still frown, just not as deeply. And it wears off, but the lines don't come back as deep as they were before.

£250 3 times a year, or 4 times if I can afford it! Also in London. Just Botox, never had fillers. And I can move my face just fine .

I get Botox and I think that people would be shocked to know I do.

I get it because I'm short sighted and had a really horrible frown line that made my face look like I was grumpy all the time. Also I can't wear eye make up due to a skin problem.
I'm totally aware it's not compulsory.

It makes me feel good about myself and I look much fresher and my face matches my emotions a lot more now.

I was very judgemental about it until I got it and now I can see how positive it can be and I can't imagine not getting it done now.
I also get it in my jaw to stop me grinding my teeth and that has been life changing.

I pay £140 three times a year for my forehead and £250 a year for my jaw.

I love that all the posters on MN who've had Botox or fillers have natural looking faces and even their husbands don't notice it. Yet I've seen plenty of dodgy examples in the street and on TV. Better class of therapist for MNetters I reckon!

I wonder whether all the people who are sneering about ‘not pumping themselves full of toxins’ are teetotal? And only use natural and alternative medicine? And eat strictly organic?

I know some people like to insist that they can ALWAYS TELL and the reason I think nobody can is because they're too polite to tell me. I can't disprove this, of course, but I can tell you that people who love me, and who have told me I'm beautiful and a good person, have ranted about Botox in front of me and how vain it is and how shit it looks. If they're bluffing to make me feel pretty sure they haven't noticed, they are doing a terrific job.

'Yet I've seen plenty of dodgy examples in the street and on TV.'

You probably just don't realise now common it is because you don't notice the people who look normal.

There's definitely people who overdo it but the majority of women who get it done just look like themselves but like they've had a good nights sleep.

I think lots and lots of women get secret Botox.
I haven't told anyone I get it (except my husband and sister) and I was talking to the woman who does it and she says it's far more common for people to secretly get it than not.

Oh, another misconception: the majority of people don't get Botox to make them look younger, just less frowny, angry and tired. I look my age with Botox, I just don't look like a serial killer my age

As with make up though, i never understand why it’s only women who need botox and fillers to stop them looking angry, tired, frowny etc.

Do men not care? Or have we been socialised into thinking we must look fresh and happy all the time.

Also, as a lip reader botox makes it much harder for me to understand you. You may think it’s subtle and unnoticeable, but your lips and face don’t make the same shapes. I can tell immediately, it’s like trying to hear someone while wearing earmuffs, it’s all muffled.

I love this!

Exactly my thoughts. I look like a much less angry version of my former self! The lines between my eyes always made me look like I was ready to pounce on my prey... totally misrepresented what I was feeling on the inside.

It looks awful I don't see why anyone would pay money to look plastic.

Nothing. But the title of the thread makes me think I should be having these procedures. Interesting and rather frightening how normalised pumping shit into your face has become.

@yeOldeTrout

Do people who get this treatment done 2-3x a year...

Are you in a job that requires effective personal relationships or persuasion or leadership, so "looking the part" is very helpful?

Or is it more that you find the treatment makes you feel more confident in (not work) personal social occasions?

Or is it more "being settled with myself when I look in the mirror" thing. Or not getting negative comments or yes getting positive comments about your appearance...

Or indeed any combo of the above.

I just wondered where/when in your life you are especially glad you had the treatment.

My dad would be delighted if I got Botox. He can't stop commenting on my wrinkles or any part of my facial skin. This makes me want to avoid him, is chief thing he achieves.

I do it mainly to look the part at work. I don’t mind my team knowing I’m 50 I’d just rather look 45

Seems like everyone including clients are all very young these days 🤷‍♀️ Helps me be relatable

Those saying what happens to your face when you stop? Answer is wrinkles start to come back but not all in one go like I drank from the wrong grail in Indiana Jones or something. When I eventually stop I reckon I’ll have bought 5-10 years on the wrinkle front

The "I can always tell" brigade make me chuckle. They really can't. They can tell the botch jobs and the ones that go to far, so can the rest of us! There's no way the tweaks are as easy to spot.

[quote Doingtheboxerbeat]@Glitteryone, I agree 100%, so utterly pointless. I don't have it/ or need it, so I wasn't planning to commenting but jeez, since when would anyone stop wearing makeup or whatever just because a snarky stranger on the Internet doesn't need to?[/quote]
Nobody needs to

The OP asked how much people spend on Botox & fillers. Like many others, my answer is £0 and we don't need anyone's permission to answer.

If people want to do it, that's their choice, but normalising something that's not normal, is what happens when when answers lead people to believe everyone's doing it. I think it's important to say 'plenty of us don't do it'

@bluebluezoo

Oh, another misconception: the majority of people don't get Botox to make them look younger, just less frowny, angry and tired. I look my age with Botox, I just don't look like a serial killer my age

As with make up though, i never understand why it’s only women who need botox and fillers to stop them looking angry, tired, frowny etc.

Do men not care? Or have we been socialised into thinking we must look fresh and happy all the time.

Also, as a lip reader botox makes it much harder for me to understand you. You may think it’s subtle and unnoticeable, but your lips and face don’t make the same shapes. I can tell immediately, it’s like trying to hear someone while wearing earmuffs, it’s all muffled.

I don't know, ask the men. My Botox doctor is male and he gets it done. After several life traumas, I looked like fucking shit and I'm pleased I no longer do. Women being judged on their looks is a different issue to people choosing to get a minor procedure to stop them looking angry and sad all the time.

I've never had anything done to my lips and I have a colleague who lip reads, so I don't think Botox alone makes much difference there...however, obviously as a lip reader you'll have a keener eye for some things than most. I feel for you in the age of masks. I maintain that the average person really can't tell. But if you look at some of the comments here, you'll see why so many people do it on the quiet.

'As with make up though, i never understand why it’s only women who need botox and fillers to stop them looking angry, tired, frowny etc.

Do men not care?'

Obviously more women get it than men but there's actually quite a lot of men get it too, they're just even less likely to tell you.

And yes it is unfair that women get judged more on appearances but we do.
I have a career where I am in front of people a lot and I see myself on screen all the time and I want to look my best.

It's not right that we're judged on our looks but we are. I don't have the best genes, and am only averagely attractive. I'm totally content with the way I look but I'll do what I can to make the most of the hand I'm dealt.

I'm 53 and had my first Botox 3 weeks ago. If I keep it up it will be around £300 - £450 per year

I've never had it but I have monthly dermalogica facials plus light treatment. £80 a time.

I have it occasionally. Once a year or so.

The comments about not moving your face are daft. You can still move your face and no one has ever noticed that I've had it. For me the only downside is that it only lasts a month or two so at a few hundred quid it's really expensive. Having said that, you do wear your face every day!

Have it, dont have it, but the judgement around it is tedious.