To think that if you are high risk you should prob not be on the bus?

[malificent7]

Prepared to get lynched here but i get the bus to hospital placement every day. There is a young man on bus who normally wears a mask. Today he wasn't. He forgot.
A woman on the bus kicked off at him massively as she has cancer. Yes i do sympathise with her but if I had cancer I wouldnt be travelling by bus. Id go to chemo by taxi. The risk is just too great atm.
He should have worn a mask but she should be protecting herself. My mum died of cancer so I know how hard it us.

You say for the sake of your health you would pay. But what if you had no spare money? What would you sacrifice - food? Heat? The reality is some people live hand to mouth and there is nothing spare how ever much they may want to pay for the sake of their health.

@malificent7

If the nhs are providing the service ( which they were for mil) I would urge the high risk to take it...especially for chemo as your immune system is fucked.

Unfortunately, many of the volunteers that would have done it are unable to do so now. Because of Covid.

It's all very well saying 'well, I'd pay it', but if you don't have the money, you don't have the money, either. An income of £72 a week after rent doesn't give somebody on JSA/UC (as they don't automatically qualify for sickness or disability benefits unless they're already dying and expected to do so within six months) any means of getting it. Being made redundant just as a diagnosis was made as a result of the lockdown or being fired on the grounds that they aren't physically capable of remaining on the shop floor/pub/restaurant means not being able to find the money.

In short, don't be a dick. It could have taken every penny she had to be able to catch the fucking bus - and you're saying 'well, you should have paid for taxis, then'.

@myrtleWilson. Have a cuppa love, it's really not that important

[quote QueenPaws]@juliastone and who is paying for and fitting these masks? Because cancer is already devastating for people without adding extra costs in [/quote]
They are not really much more expensive than the surgical masks.

YANBU, ridiculous.

I got on my first bus since March saturday, not doing it again will stick to taxis. Half the bus did not have a mask on driver did not question anyone. A group of 4 got on none had a mask they cannot all be exempt. Not doing it again was vile.

@MomToTwoBabas

I got on my first bus since March saturday, not doing it again will stick to taxis. Half the bus did not have a mask on driver did not question anyone. A group of 4 got on none had a mask they cannot all be exempt. Not doing it again was vile.

Good choice if you can afford to do it. Unlike presumably, the lady with cancer and people like me, who can't afford a cab to and from work every day as well as the cost of travelling into London to see a consultant.

DP has said he doesn't have a problem with me doing it, but I'm better at maths than he is £375 a month for work plus £180-odd for hospital visits (and I don't have to go as often as somebody on chemo or radiotherapy) comes in at around a third of my salary. And we kind of like having a roof over our heads and food to eat.

@MomToTwoBabas why is it ridiculous?

I think its so difficult for bus drivers to police wearing a mask. There are some horrible individuals that wouldn't hesitate using violence. The government are making these rules and have every one arguing about it. Some people are just horrible

Not everyone can afford a taxi to every hospital appointment! Honestly, if someone can't remember to wear his mask, then maybe he shouldn't be on the bus! It's not a case of someone who can't wear a mask due to a disability - he just forgot. Why should someone who is already enduring cancer and chemo have to pay for other people's carelessness?

Well the lady ended up getting off at the shopping centre not at the hospital which was my stop. I waa a bit

I have not read this whole thread but is the OP ‘on placement’ at the hospital because they work/want to work in a caring profession? Because if so, I don’t think they have what it takes. Christ.

Well the lady ended up getting off at the shopping centre not at the hospital which was my stop. I waa a bit

Wtf, I have cancer, my kids still need food and clothes, I have to go pick stuff up for going for my op very soon, sometimes i want a fucking mooch around b&m because sitting at home staring at 4 walls because i can't work is fucking depressing as fuck. You have chosen the wrong bloody profession. People with cancer still have a fucking life you know. You might want to remember that before you have to deal with any ill people.

Well the lady ended up getting off at the shopping centre not at the hospital which was my stop. I waa a bit

why? people with cancer go to the shops.

OP please tell me you are not a healthcare student?

I missed where she said she was going to chemo. Transport to that isn’t funded where I am unless you’re a set distance away. But it any event - people with cancer and other conditions still need to leave the house for reasons other than treatment.

And you must know that even if you could find the money for taxis (which doesn’t fit with my experience of being ‘skint’ - was a 90 minute walk home from placement when I was a student as the buses stopped running and I certainly couldn’t afford a taxi), not everybody can.

There’s a really horrible lack of empathy here.

I know a very high risk person in a dangerous abusive relationship- and the abuse escalated during lockdown. She recently lost her car as her abusive partner sold it to restrict her movements knowing she was high risk. My friend is currently taking the bus occasionally into the local town so that she can speak freely with her lawyer, with women’s charities and her friends as she’s planning to leave the relationship.

You have no idea what that woman’s circumstances are, OP. And your taxi suggestion is ridiculous given how much more expensive than a bus they are.

@malificent7

Well the lady ended up getting off at the shopping centre not at the hospital which was my stop. I waa a bit

We know, you've already told us. The need to repeat this statement merely highlights your lack of insight and empathy and makes visible your staggeringly obvious misplaced capacity to work in healthcare and reinforces your unpleasantness.

You mean she probably went to work or buy food? Oh, shock, horror.

Well the lady ended up getting off at the shopping centre not at the hospital which was my stop. I waa a bit hmm

What were you hmming about? I genuinely don’t understand. Do you think if you have cancer you should just sit at home and wait to die or something?

@malificent7

Well the lady ended up getting off at the shopping centre not at the hospital which was my stop. I waa a bit

So she should just stay home and go to chemo but nothing else?

Lol at just get a taxi - to travel to the next village (2 miles) from my house is £10 each way and then £40-50 each way to the hospital.

ya probably bu but I do see your point. Would the country be in a better situation if we isolated/helped the vulnerable (by helped I mean give lifts to rather than have them get the bus) and let people who were low risk go about their business?

Oh you're going to be one of those delightful health professionals aren't you.

@transformandriseup

Lol at just get a taxi - to travel to the next village (2 miles) from my house is £10 each way and then £40-50 each way to the hospital.

Just looked up what it would cost for my hospital visits.

£81 to £359 depending upon the time you need to be there for, who is available and willing to sit in solid traffic for around 2 hours (if you're lucky).

It's twelve miles. Twelve miles into London, yes, but still only twelve miles. It's 40 minutes and £7.50 by bus/train.

£7.50 or £81. What do you think you would choose?