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To find Jameela Jamil the most annoying body positivity advocate

140 replies

Imworthit · 14/09/2020 06:52

She's tall and slim, model perfect, always made up, perfect hair, beautifully dressed and all she seems to do is rage at other women for their beauty choices. I know we can't help how we look but she just seems the biggest hypocrite. AIBU for thinking this?

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feelingverylazytoday · 14/09/2020 11:27

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mocktail · 14/09/2020 11:32

She was recently outed by a journalist as making up and exaggerating various illnesses for sympathy and attention: www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18093883864083603/

@TweeBree Wow, that Instagram link makes me think she's actually quite troubled.

WildAboutMyPlanet · 14/09/2020 11:42

@mocktail for some reason that link doesn’t work for me, when I click it it says the link is broken? Can I ask what it is please?

ZarasHouse · 14/09/2020 11:44

@lborgia

I absolutely agree with you. She reminds me of girls I knew growing up who very much became like this as young women. I imagine if we were still in contact then they would be very much like JJ. There's a kind of craving for uniqueness and attention, combined with a lack of self awareness, and some combination of self diagnosed health conditions (usually something like fibromyalgia), eating disorder, anxiety, trauma, and a heavy dose of internalised misogyny. The entitlement of the upper class, but with massive insecurity behind it. You're right it's like watching a very slow motion car crash. It's not in your face like Jade Goody or Katie Price, but she's unravelling herself publicly from a giant spidersweb of contradictions, and the media will be done with her when she's just a big spluttering mess apologising for everything she is, everything she's ever said, put back in her place by the internet en massse or the patriarchy, and cancelled from Twitter.

unmarkedbythat · 14/09/2020 11:45

I just googled her, I'm very boring and out of touch with modern TV and current slebs so didn't know who she was. She seems no more annoying and a lot less of a twat than many of the people I do know about (politicians mainly).

lborgia · 14/09/2020 11:49

@ZarasHouse - I’m so pleased it made sense to you, I wasn’t sure if it would sound strange to everyone else.

The one thing I would say though, is that I think it’s quite possible she has a medical issue or two, (esp EDS), and it’s entirely reasonable for her to suffer with eating disorders, and anxiety, but it doesn’t stop you becoming deeply self absorbed, and that’s not attractive to anyone.

Given that personality disorders are usually described as appearing during childhood, usually as a direct result of trauma, it’s not a surprise there are messes like this.

Laaalaaaa · 14/09/2020 12:02

[quote WildAboutMyPlanet]@pinkbalconyrailing she has written that as she has gone after Kim K for her ‘maternity shapewear’. I don’t like Kim K particularly and I wouldn’t wear maternity shapewear as all through my pregnancy I have wanted to be the loosest, baggiest stuff possible, but Jameela has never been pregnant so how can she know what support is important for pregnant women? Shapewear is probably not a good word to be honest, but lots of women like support for their bumps and legs to make them feel more comfortable as pregnancy is bloody uncomfortable! Just because Jameela doesn’t understand it or like it doesn’t mean that it should be ‘cancelled’. I don’t believe Kim K is suggesting that pregnant women need to look slim, I believe she has created a line to support pregnant bodies, the same as LOADS of clothing out there already does. But it’s a good bandwagon to jump on and say it’s attack on pregnant women and make her look good. As a heavily pregnant woman who has gained weight and whose body looks very different, I am not offended by Kim’s line and anything that makes you feel more comfortable and happier in pregnancy is ALWAYS a bonus! For me it’s an xxxxl T-shirt and pants, for other women it’s something which holds their bumps up. Each to their own![/quote]
I only wore shapewear underwear whilst pregnant. It was the only underwear I found comfortable and could rely on not to roll down so to speak. I’m in no way a Kardashian fan either.

Fromage · 14/09/2020 12:07

In terms of her iweigh campaign, she is right. She has been overweight and bullied for it. So in terms of body positivity I think she does the right thing, however she also doesn't think one's gender identity is valid if one is a female woman whose gender identity is rooted in her biology.

Personally I find her irritating as fuck so I take no notice of her iweigh thing because I find it overshadowed by all her other levels of bullshit. On the one hand she's saying don't value yourself according to your appearance (I agree) but also that you have no value if you think that someone with a penis has every right to wander naked around a female changing room, or to perform smear tests on women who have asked for a female nurse. So fat is fine, but a female woman's feelings are invalid when it comes to her safety and that kind of wrongthink makes you a shit who should be silenced.

mocktail · 14/09/2020 12:09

@WildAboutMyPlanet Sorry I think I messed up the link. It was www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18093883864083603/

RedWoollyHat · 14/09/2020 12:14

[quote mocktail]@WildAboutMyPlanet Sorry I think I messed up the link. It was www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18093883864083603/[/quote]
Yep. I used to admire her for her work attacking the diet industry, etc... But she's a deeply troubled individual. She lied about having cancer twice. I hadn't see than Instagram post you linked to before - it explains it really well. Anyone who lies about having had cancer is pretty low in my book. She must have serious MH issues though to do that.

DishingOutDone · 14/09/2020 12:30

Last week I googled "celebrities who have body dysmorphia". Big list came up of people claiming to have it, who clearly knew jackshit about the condition. I was with my DD17 and I read out some of her quotes - DD loves her in The Good Place - and it was if the scales fell from her eyes, she said it was the first time she'd heard someone describing how SHE feels, DD felt very much she could identity with JJ and its been a big step forward for us - so much so that she has agreed to try a new psychiatrist. So just based on that, I'm a big fan of JJ - she "spoke" to my DD in that article and its made a very positive change for us.

I probably wouldn't go out of my way to read anything else about her though.

user1471565182 · 15/09/2020 00:52

What happened after the alleged lying about cancer incident? are people seriously still handing out work to her? Thats the sort of thing oiks like us get torn apart in the tabloids for.

froggygoneacourting · 15/09/2020 10:04

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froggygoneacourting · 15/09/2020 10:13

And before the homophobes start policing my sexual orientation: I don’t like the term bisexual because it implies (or people certainly assume it means) liking both sexes equally. I came out as a lesbian at 13 and exclusively had relationships/sex with women for most of my life.

I fell in love with a man in my late 30s and he’s the only man I’ve ever slept with. Obviously I can no longer call myself a lesbian but I don’t feel that “bisexual” is the correct term to use when my orientation is maybe 95% gay 5% straight, as many people assume it means 50\50.

Many many LGB people prefer the term “queer” because they don’t want to shove themselves in a little box.

Don’t tell LGB people what terminology they are allowed and not allowed to use for themselves.

And the comments acting like Jamil isn’t allowed to identify as anything other than straight just because she’s in a relationship with a man are pure biphobia and bi-erasure.

You can tell me and other non-heterosexual women to fuck off to Twitter all you like, I’m not going to ignore open bigotry.

BrumBoo · 15/09/2020 10:50

@froggygoneacourting

And before the homophobes start policing my sexual orientation: I don’t like the term bisexual because it implies (or people certainly assume it means) liking both sexes equally. I came out as a lesbian at 13 and exclusively had relationships/sex with women for most of my life.

I fell in love with a man in my late 30s and he’s the only man I’ve ever slept with. Obviously I can no longer call myself a lesbian but I don’t feel that “bisexual” is the correct term to use when my orientation is maybe 95% gay 5% straight, as many people assume it means 50\50.

Many many LGB people prefer the term “queer” because they don’t want to shove themselves in a little box.

Don’t tell LGB people what terminology they are allowed and not allowed to use for themselves.

And the comments acting like Jamil isn’t allowed to identify as anything other than straight just because she’s in a relationship with a man are pure biphobia and bi-erasure.

You can tell me and other non-heterosexual women to fuck off to Twitter all you like, I’m not going to ignore open bigotry.

Nobody is telling what term to apply to yourself, and no one would say the same to Jamil. People question her motives for labeling herself 'queer' because of many reasons pointed out in the thread.

As for yourself, you may be a gay woman who's currently with a man, you may be bi, but don't be deciding for others that 'queer' is now an appropriate or inoffensive term just because you like it, or suggest all people think 'bi is 50/50 attaction' (utter bull), or talk about 'putting people in boxes' then speak about how much of a percentage gay or not you are. It's childish at best, and considering your previous post got deleted for some unknown reason, I suggest you possibly think out how you say things before angrily posting online. 'I'm angry people don't agree with the labels I set myself' is definitely Twitter type rant territory.

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