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To find Jameela Jamil the most annoying body positivity advocate

140 replies

Imworthit · 14/09/2020 06:52

She's tall and slim, model perfect, always made up, perfect hair, beautifully dressed and all she seems to do is rage at other women for their beauty choices. I know we can't help how we look but she just seems the biggest hypocrite. AIBU for thinking this?

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Blondiney · 14/09/2020 09:23

I cannot bear the self serving, hypocritical gobshite. YADNBU.

sst1234 · 14/09/2020 09:27

Reading these comments, it sounds like the woman is just trying to hide her lack of talent by being a Twitter warrior. Now what time is the next bandwagon due?

Swallowzandamazons · 14/09/2020 09:28

She's no friend to women unless they have a cock.

unicornpower · 14/09/2020 09:31

She is a bully and i find her so so irritating! Everything thats trending at the time has happened to her. She isn't a woman i would want as a friend thats for sure!

SpecialWGM · 14/09/2020 09:39

@Sanitisethat

She's in a relationship with a man and "came out" as queer hmm

All you need to know.

I’m bisexual but married to a man. My sexual orientation hasn’t changed because of who I’m in a relationship with. It’s not really that hard.

Didn't she do this before she was due to be part of a show though? I think the show might have been about the original Voguers (not sure what the actual name for the collective is called).

From what I can remember it felt like calling herself 'queer' aligned her being part of the show in a much better light.

Also, I'm sure she fabricated some of her narrative/history. I remember reading an article about it.

caughtalightsneeze · 14/09/2020 09:39

@sst1234

Reading these comments, it sounds like the woman is just trying to hide her lack of talent by being a Twitter warrior. Now what time is the next bandwagon due?
I haven't actually seen her acting so I can't judge for myself but the sad thing is that I quite believe that she might well be quite talented at acting. And she's certainly very beautiful (on the outside).

If only she would stick to using her talent for comedy acting instead of her talent for bullying other women.

Eyesofdisarray · 14/09/2020 09:40

swallowzandamazons- Grin love that!!!

No fan of JJ either

BigBadVoodooHat · 14/09/2020 09:42

I know we can't help how we look but she just seems the biggest hypocrite.

There are countless reasons for thinking JJ is a hypocrite, but none of them have anything to do with her looks.

She's a delusional liar and an absolute gobshite. But she certainly does look good.

Alabamawhirly1 · 14/09/2020 09:43

Her insta on pregnancy shape wear was so fucking cringe.

Refering to pregnant persons. I'm offended by that term. I am not a pregnant person. I embrace and celebrate my womanhood and should not have to reject or ignore that fact when I'm going through a process that only women can actually go through.

If she wants to be inclusive say pregnant woman and pregnant persons. Don't remove me from the statement in the name of inclusivity.

And as many people who've actually had babies pointed out - shape wear can help with muscle pain. So she doesn't even know what she's talking about while she's trying to shame pregnant women, sorry pregnant persons.

Binding you're breasts and denying you're womanhood is celebrated - but wearing some underwear to help lift you're baby bump is shamed. Fucking hipppcrit.

raddledoldmisanthropist · 14/09/2020 09:49

I’m bisexual but married to a man. My sexual orientation hasn’t changed because of who I’m in a relationship with. It’s not really that hard.

I think the cynicism about her being 'queer' is that she suddenly discovered that when she landed a gig on a show focusing on gay black people and got criticised for it.

Similarly, of course unreasonably pretty people can feel self-concious but she seems to have Paltrow levels of un-selfawareness when lecturing others that they should feel positive about their looks.

Similarly her 'feminism' involves a lot of #bekind and 'sexualising women is bad' and also a lot of unkind comments about women and quite a lot of sexy magasine shoots.

It's not just one thing that makes people cynical about her claims.

Personally I think pretty, skinny, rich, posh, influential people should talk a lot less about how hard life is and how us ugly, fat, poor, common, unknown folk need to have empathy for the less fortunate.

alittleprivacy · 14/09/2020 09:50

Jamil is an advocate for body neutrality - the idea that you don’t have to love your body, to steer away from self-hate without the pressure of having to achieve self-love. It's about working towards a place where people respect their bodies, but don't give too much energy to positive or negative thoughts about them.

I'm confused about why you shouldn't love your body. I mean your body isn't neutral to your life. It's not a utilitarian pair of shoes. It is literally you. At our most detached from it, it's the vessel that we live in which dictates much of our day to day ability, as well as the potential length and quality of our lives. But it isn't even that detached. How we use and treat our body has an enormous impact on our brain chemistry, the "who" of what we are. Our bodies and how we treat and use it impacts our mood, our concentration, our ability to think, to sleep, to relax. We should never feel neutral towards our bodies. We should revel in the abilities our bodies do have, work towards the potential abilities we have yet to achieve (if we want to) and do our best to find acceptance with it's limitations. Because we literally are our bodies.

A healthy way of thinking about our bodies would be to think of them primarily in terms of their abilities. To focus on how best we can treat our bodies so that we can get what we want from them. For how our bodies look, to be at most, of secondary importance. Because what our bodies can do is objectively far, far more important than how they look. And we really, really have to stop thinking of our bodies as separate from us. They are an intricate part of us, not some avatar our completely separate brains are stuck in.

When I was overweight, I didn't like how I looked. But that aesthetic was not enough to motivate me to change my life. It was full acceptance that my weight was likely to have an impact on how well and long I could be around for DS that motivated me to change. And once I found my sport my relationship with my body has become completely and totally about what my body helps me achieve and how best I can treat my body to keep meeting my ever growing goals. Do I prefer the look of my body now? Absolutely. It would be a total lie to say I don't have a very positive relationship with my body's current aesthetic. But is it what motivates me? No. My primary relationship with my body is because it is me and the better I treat it, and the more I get out of it. The better I treat me and the more I get out of me.

44PumpLane · 14/09/2020 09:51

I used to follow JJ and iWeigh on Insta and then had to stop as it was getting ridiculous.

I agree with the post by UpperLowercaseSymbolNumber that she is a hit of a mixed bag.

Personally the reason I unfollowed her was twofold. 1- she seemed to be trying so hard to be the most woke person in the room at all times, and 2- she and her supporters were cruel and bullying to anyone with a different viewpoint.

Anyone claiming to be as inclusive as she does should not be shaming and encouraging bullying of others.

I thoroughly agree with her that celebrities pushing diet pills and diet drinks is awful, but so is shooting down someones very valid concern over women's safety issues.

raddledoldmisanthropist · 14/09/2020 09:51

I don't know what happened there but Kristen Bell always comes across as friendly and laid back to me.

Kristen Bell is very down to earth and funny; everyone who works with her seems to like her. She does actual charity work (as opposed to photoshoots) without making a big deal of it and things like putting up strangers in her house during hurricane Katrina.

I'm not usually one to read much into the personalities of people I haven't met, but Bell is very consistent and it's certainly odd that she doesn't follow Jamil on any platform (yet follows the rest of the cast) and has ignored several attempts by Jamil to portray them as besties.

IheartJKR · 14/09/2020 09:52

@Alabamawhirly1

Her insta on pregnancy shape wear was so fucking cringe.

Refering to pregnant persons. I'm offended by that term. I am not a pregnant person. I embrace and celebrate my womanhood and should not have to reject or ignore that fact when I'm going through a process that only women can actually go through.

If she wants to be inclusive say pregnant woman and pregnant persons. Don't remove me from the statement in the name of inclusivity.

And as many people who've actually had babies pointed out - shape wear can help with muscle pain. So she doesn't even know what she's talking about while she's trying to shame pregnant women, sorry pregnant persons.

Binding you're breasts and denying you're womanhood is celebrated - but wearing some underwear to help lift you're baby bump is shamed. Fucking hipppcrit.

Agree with all of this.

Also dickheads like Jamil will be singing from a different hymn sheet in a few years after they’ve had dc and their life, health and how they are treated by society changes immeasurably.

But, I’ve got a long fucking memory and I for one will never forget how she traded women for woke cookies.

WhoAmIWhoAreYou · 14/09/2020 09:53

Shes a bully! She did it to Caroline Flack shortly before her death. She's also messed up and needs help.

yelyah22 · 14/09/2020 09:53

*She's in a relationship with a man and "came out" as queer hmm

All you need to know.*

I really, really don't like JJ - she's a liar who makes absolute nonsense up in the media about injuries she's apparently sustained that aren't true.

But this is queerphobic bullshit and you should be ashamed of yourself. Queer women can be in relationships with men and still be queer, you dick.

MangoFeverDream · 14/09/2020 10:00

She’s painfully woke and just follows the social trends of the day.

Mollscroll · 14/09/2020 10:03

Doubting all her illness and injuries - fine. Doubting that she is "queer" when she suddenly told the world she was having been criticised for muscling in on an LGBT show - "queerphobic bullshit, you dick"

Firstly, once an attention seeker always an attention seeker
Secondly "queerphobic bullshit, you dick" is some quite heightened language for some perfectly legitimate questionmarks over her behaviour.

teaandcustardcreamsx · 14/09/2020 10:05

I used to follow her but then ended up unfollowing her as she became rather annoying.

Strangely though, I was watching an interview from 2009 ish, with Jameela and a Male reporter interviewing two men and a woman. The woman wasn’t asked a single question and awkwardly looked at the two men Hmm (before anyone says that might just be the way she is—I have watched interviews with her before and she is usually very bubbly and outgoing)

TweeBree · 14/09/2020 10:07

But this is queerphobic bullshit and you should be ashamed of yourself.

We don't bow down to made up charges of phobia here. Try Twitter.

WonderTweek · 14/09/2020 10:08

I used to really like her and I thought she was really intelligent and articulate. Then the Twitter drama became wayyyy too much and she came across as quite mean and hypocritical, and some of her stories seemed made up (although they may well be true, I lost the plot) and it was really confusing to follow. Bit like Jack Monroe on Twitter I think.

caughtalightsneeze · 14/09/2020 10:09

I'm not remotely ashamed of myself for thinking the queer thing was a convenient revelation in order to enhance her career and deflect criticism.

The post telling us we should be ashamed of ourselves proves the point that once you veer into matters of sexual identity suddenly you are supposed to be beyond criticism.

Onxob · 14/09/2020 10:13

I vaguely remember her from my twenties as a small time television presenter. Haven't heard of her since but then I haven't really watched television since. Had a nose and was shocked to see she has millions of followers on Instagram so clearly I've missed something! Anyway she describes herself as a "feminist-in-progress"... I would think a feminist who can't bring herself to say the word woman has a fair amount of progress to make! So on that note I shall return her to obscurity in my head Grin

Onebigfoot · 14/09/2020 10:15

She is a horrible thin skinned cry bully. She believes full bodied male rapists should be be prison with women. She believes womanhood can be reduced to nothing more than a belief.

She used the age old misogynistic trope 'shut mouth, open purse' to JK Rowling on Twitter. She clearly believes silencing women who have a differing opinion to her is acceptable.

Her absolutely clear misogyny makes her body positivity stance look as shallow and self serving as it is. They are just for woke points to try and keep herself relevant.

She's just another low talent grasping 'celebrity' desperate to keep her trotters in the pot of fame and freebies. She's a horrible human.

raddledoldmisanthropist · 14/09/2020 10:15

@yelyah22

By queer, do you mean bi/gay?

If so I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that- just expressing distrust based on her prior behaviour and public statements, and the convenience of the timing.

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