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‘Fuck the Covid rules.’ Really?

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Yellownotblue · 10/09/2020 00:37

To all the posters (there have been many) saying they don’t plan to abide by the new rule of 6 - is your attitude specific to Covid, or do you generally don’t care about acting illegally?

For instance would you drink and drive ‘because you have a good reason’?

Or park illegally or drive without a seatbelt?

Would you drop litter on the streets?

I’m genuinely confused by the admission that so many posters see law-abidance as a “nice to have”, rather than some basic standard of life and morality in a society.

OP posts:
TinySleepThief · 10/09/2020 12:46

Do people not realise that the longer they piss about socialising at will, the longer that this virus will be in circulation?!?!

I don't understand why people don't understand that the virus won't magically vanish from circulation even of this new arbitrary law is followed by everyone in the country. The virus is something we will have to learn to live with, its not going to just disappear.

TheGreatWave · 10/09/2020 12:46

Logistically I am unable to see my family, I'm sorry that some people are finding that so difficult to understand. So I will abide by the rules, at great personal cost.

But I really do not want further restrictions, do you?

Well, no, but as far as this one is concerned it is no different to when we were in lockdown.

Funkypolar · 10/09/2020 12:48

CuriousaboutSamphire - seeing as I am housebound with Hyperemesis gravidarum I’m hardly going to be breaking any roolz. 😂

Alabamawhirly1 · 10/09/2020 12:49

Do people not realise that the longer they piss about socialising at will, the longer that this virus will be in circulation?!?!

Do you really think it will go out of circulation because only one of my parents visit my family of 5 at a time. When people are still going to pubs, gyms, restaurants, theme parks, swimming pools.

We are not, and have not ever been aiming to get rid of the virus. The plan is to manage infection levels until we have a vaccine or herd immunity. This new set of rules are designed to stop large private family gatherings which have led to an increase in infection in certain communities, and to stop large social gatherings of young people. And of course to make it look like the gov are doing somthing without effecting spending and earning.

Takingontheworld · 10/09/2020 12:50

FYI on mumsnet, its acceptable to just state your feelings on the original thread. No need to start a PA TAT.

Hope that helps.

middlenglander · 10/09/2020 12:54

It's not a criminal law, is it? Not like drinking and driving

CrunchyNutNC · 10/09/2020 12:56

How can it be consistent when a virus is still waxing and waning on very local as well as a global scale?

I don't think it can. What I was trying to say was that the 'fuck the covid rules' people do so claiming there is no logic to them (and thus 'what is the point ') when in fact there is plenty of logic and what they feel is 'illogical' is only inconsistent.

Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 10/09/2020 12:56

Incredibly selfish for people to say “fuck the COVID rules”. We need to act now to stop this spreading around and avoid another lockdown, which could end up being at Christmas (really hard for many) and in winter , making it much harder for the NHS to cope.

OK Dominic Cummings broke the rules, and i despise the man as much as any, and think he should have resigned or been sacked. But if we all use this as an excuse it will not go well.

torn2020 · 10/09/2020 12:58

I'm not complying. My DD is one, I've had severe MH issues all this year (pre-COVID) and I'll be damned if I'll see my recovery jeopardised over a ridiculous rule. I'll be carrying on with my own risk assessment which says that visiting my DM and her family doesn't get safer just because my step-DF stays in his bedroom.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/09/2020 12:59

@Funkypolar

CuriousaboutSamphire - seeing as I am housebound with Hyperemesis gravidarum I’m hardly going to be breaking any roolz. 😂
Not sure what is funny! You have a specific circumstance that I couldn't possibly know!
Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 10/09/2020 13:02

Do you really think it will go out of circulation because only one of my parents visit my family of 5 at a time.

^^
I do have sympathy for this situation, and do think that there should have been some sort of exception for families with lots of children, such as “a group containing no more than 4 adults, from no more than two households, and the children of those adults up to a maximum of (whatever number is judged fair ) children” or something to that effect.

A single parent of 5 kids could end up being able to meet no one if they don’t have a support bubble.

But maybe that would be too complicated.

Funkypolar · 10/09/2020 13:03

CuriousaboutSamphire - I think it’s funny that you presumed I wasn’t following the rules when you know nothing about me. I don’t believe in this nonsense but when I have gone to shops I have been wearing a face mask and standing apart from others. It’s hardly like I’ve been breaking the rules running around licking people’s faces.

nokidshere · 10/09/2020 13:06

I follow the rules and still will.

If the majority did the same simple thing ie: stayed at least a metre away from everyone else, washed our hands etc etc I think it would work better .

But people don't. Lots of posts on my fb page saying 'lovely to have a socially distanced meet up with friends' but accompanied by a picture with said friends all sat next to each other on the sofa for a selfie, or pretend kissing face to face in a car and other such rubbish.

The rules don't make sense for a lot of people and it's their own prerogative to choose whether to follow them or not. But I make my decisions for me and whatever anyone else chooses to do or not do has no effect on mine.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/09/2020 13:08

@Funkypolar

CuriousaboutSamphire - I think it’s funny that you presumed I wasn’t following the rules when you know nothing about me. I don’t believe in this nonsense but when I have gone to shops I have been wearing a face mask and standing apart from others. It’s hardly like I’ve been breaking the rules running around licking people’s faces.
???? You said you'd stopped watching the news.. I said ignorance is no defence.

I inferred nothing about you, your actions etc!

As for licking faces... hyperbole doesn't help either!

Timeforanotherusername · 10/09/2020 13:08

The rules don't make sense for a lot of people and it's their own prerogative to choose whether to follow them or not.

Its being brought into law so its no longer peoples perogative.

CrunchyNutNC · 10/09/2020 13:11

What I find quite chilling/sobering is the fact that this new rule, which is being backed up by the law for the first time, is a very significant step and would not be happening were the government not very concerned about what is currently brewing. This is not something they'll have done lightly.

minipie · 10/09/2020 13:15

There is logic to the rules.

If doing A and B involve the same amount of contact with others then it may seem illogical that A is allowed and B is not. The reason is that doing A has another benefit like helping people stay employed or getting children educated, whereas B (seeing friends in your own house or in a park) doesn’t.

The problem is the government hasn’t explained this (or anything else) properly.

VoyageInTheDark · 10/09/2020 13:20

@minipie

There is logic to the rules.

If doing A and B involve the same amount of contact with others then it may seem illogical that A is allowed and B is not. The reason is that doing A has another benefit like helping people stay employed or getting children educated, whereas B (seeing friends in your own house or in a park) doesn’t.

The problem is the government hasn’t explained this (or anything else) properly.

I agree. They need to at least try and explain this to people
MarshaBradyo · 10/09/2020 13:21

@minipie

There is logic to the rules.

If doing A and B involve the same amount of contact with others then it may seem illogical that A is allowed and B is not. The reason is that doing A has another benefit like helping people stay employed or getting children educated, whereas B (seeing friends in your own house or in a park) doesn’t.

The problem is the government hasn’t explained this (or anything else) properly.

Johnson baulks at being straight on this.

Whitty is better at speaking realistically on hardship etc

LesLavandes · 10/09/2020 13:24

Do not break the rules. Please

nokidshere · 10/09/2020 13:26

Its being brought into law so its no longer peoples perogative.

It's still a choice only now it has consequences. Anyone can choose to break the law if they so wish.

HettyHet · 10/09/2020 13:33

I can understand why this way of thinking has come about. Not to say I won't follow the rules but I totally get why people are a bit Hmm about them. They are completely inconsistent, hypocritical, every changing and daft quite frankly.

And the thing that always gets me is the posters talking about reporting people to the police. 'Id report you for having 10 people round for your child's birthday OP', 'Should MN have a responsibility to report these threads to the police?' etc etc...

Come on... The police do not have time or resourfes to be enforcing these rules, let's be honest you won't get anywhere reporting your neighbour for having 7 people instead of 6 in their garden.

It'll be illegal in the same sense other things that nothing happens about are illegal.

For example, ringing the police because your neighbour is smoking a spliff in their garden. There's a very very high chance that absolutely jack shit will happen despite it being illegal be sure there are far bigger things taking up police time.

Coming from a family of police officers, the amount of calls from people reporting neighbours for this or that during the initial lock down was insane and completely unmanageable, I'm not entirely sure what people were expecting... A police officer to come and have a chat with Margaret down the road for leaving her house for non essentials? Or knocking on and fining John next door for having his mate round for a brew? Come on.

It'll be the same with this. Lots of reports from curtain twitchers I'm sure but no time to actually do anything about it in the majority of cases.

Selmaselma · 10/09/2020 13:34

Is the rule possibly meant to get people out of the house to meet elsewhere? That's the only way it makes any sense to me.

Neron · 10/09/2020 13:39

How many deaths came about because of the BLM protests? Crowds that large I'm assuming whole families would have been wiped out. Oh and the beaches, all those people too.

ChavvySexPond · 10/09/2020 13:39

I just assume anybody who does anything that spreads covid is enjoying this year immensely and wants life to be like this forever.