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DP lying - help me figure this out

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diannetol · 07/09/2020 09:38

Hi all. NC as outing - not posted this topic before so this might be long to not dripfeed.

For background: around 4 months ago, I finally caught DP out lying. I'd been suspicious for ages but made to feel like I was completely wrong. He was using an anonymous online chat room (not one ever listed on here) to speak to people. Whilst you can speak innocently on this I knew what he'd use it for which he admitted, speaking to other women. It's a childish weird website and he gave me his username once caught and login (i'd have never found this out) and I read it all. It was quite boring, a bit like an alter ego. It wasn't emotional and I knew it hadn't become physical so I am still deciding what to do because I was willing to try and see if we could heal - however I was very hurt. I only found out because he was caught with solid evidence, before he just denied anything circumstantial.

Now, I need to tell this story which is a bit TMI but is the only way to explain.
Last night DP said he was horny, I wasn't but it was also whilst we were watching TV and I said I will be later. He then went for a shower and I said 'don't wank' because I thought we could instead have sex. He took a while in the shower so I kind of knew and asked him when he returned very casually but he said he hadn't. I then went to brush my teeth and noticed there was baby oil on the toothpaste. I then just knew - it's the only reason he'd ever touch baby oil. He immediately denied it. Almost laughed AT ME and then even said 'if you want to believe I did then sure I did'.

He eventually admitted he did wank but said he never used baby oil "why would I, in WATER that doesn't even make sense" I explained how it's the opposite actually. It took an argument later for him to actually admit the baby oil usage. It then became a horrible argument, he said he wanked because "he would rather wank than have sex with me" and how he's not attracted to me (because of my personality - he is very physically attracted to me - he didn't say this but he can't deny it as it's always something he remarks on).

We now aren't talking and I don't even know why he feels so morally right in this instance. I'm angry and I'm upset. I don't care that he did what he did, I care that he lied. I cared that after everything, I have to still catch him out and be relentless with my questioning to get the truth. If he had just been honest when asked I'd have actually trusted him more.

So this is where I need your advice, ignoring LTB or whatever, I still have to live in a house with him, we just bought this house and it was very expensive. We would struggle to sell. So how do you handle a man in this situation?

When he lies and is caught out, he laughs almost like a psycho, he then makes the argument not about what he's done but about anything else and all my flaws, he then tries to say things to hurt me. What is the best approach? I used to think that it is to say 'look I don't care, just be honest' but that didn't work! I'm quite numb to him saying anything mean so it doesn't really hurt me.

A long time ago a therapist (with an ex partner) told me that the issue is if you speak to someone like you're a parent, they'll respond like a child. I'm wondering if that's applicable here.

Overall, I don't think what he did was a big deal (last night, not the thing 4 months ago) but it was the lying. Which I've explained to him. He almost deflects it because I'm sure he knows it's wrong. he then says how he only lied to avoid an argument.

OP posts:
12309845653ghydrvj · 07/09/2020 12:38

To be totally honest it doesn’t sound like you have any respect for him, or that he has much for you either.

Your style of interrogating people is extremely offputting and something I could not live with. It sounds like you’re in a toxic dynamic and you’re both aware this relationship is dead.

If you want to coexist, you’re going to need to learn some respect for boundaries. I’ve read all your updates on the wankvestigation—frankly if a partner ever treated me the way you did him, they would be out the door. Doesn’t mean he’s ok to say hurtful things, but he probably also would have paid you £10k to shut up in that moment. Humiliating people like that is not ok.

You don’t trust him, but it sounds like he might not be totally trustworthy, so I get it. However when you start Ms Marple-ing his wanking YOU are starting a fight. Living with anyone involves a lot of letting things go!

canigooutyet · 07/09/2020 12:49

@oakleaffy

Oil and condoms don't mix Too true.. I was having a blood test once, and watched in surprise as the latex gloves on the nurses' hand just disintegrated on the glove backs.

She said she's used hand cream as her hands get very dry.

It was a new type of hand cream.
latex gloves are a lot thicker than yer average condom, so oil and condoms would be a serious no no. 😱

It was body lotion that got me. Only used a condom as I was on antibiotics that I was allergic to and vomited. Either would interfere with the pill. That learning curve is in her 20's now 😂
NoProblem123 · 07/09/2020 12:53

Just the phase ‘relentless questioning....’

Not even a wanker deserves that.

You’re not DS Arnott.

Lolapusht · 07/09/2020 13:19

OP, in answer to one of your questions, you don’t “handle him”. He’s a grown ass adult who is responsible for making his own decisions. If he chooses to lie to you or cheat then that’s on him. There is nothing you can do to control, or change that. You can, however, chose to trust him. Trusting someone is also a choice. He has lied in the past so if you want to continue in the relationship then you have to chose to believe him otherwise you are doomed to spending every waking moment trying to find proof of his lies and trying to catch him out and that’s no way for either of you to live. If you can’t allow yourself to trust him then you need to end the relationship. If you can’t afford to sell then you need to become housemates and lead totally separate lives while staying under the same roof. Both of you deserve more.

ravenmum · 07/09/2020 13:38

Just as a tip, though, OP, my mum is selling her house, and the housing market is extremely fast-moving at the moment. I read the same thing in the news recently. Are you sure you'd struggle to sell? (I'm not saying you should LTB - just saying that if that is the only thing stopping you, it's something to consider!)

Cruachan31 · 07/09/2020 13:40

“I thought it was my problem being anxious. I sat him down before we went through with the house and explained how I felt and that going through with this house would be killer if he's lying. He assured me I was just paranoid...”

@diannetol He has messed with your mind. The wanking lie seems to be the straw that broke the camel’s back. You should have gone with your instincts when you had the above conversation, as you are both going to have to pay heavily now. For the sake of your mental health you do need to split as any trust has gone! In future relationships try to make sure you listen to what your head is telling you,as it will save heartbreak. Sorry you are going through this OP, but stay strong. For you.💐

lottiegarbanzo · 07/09/2020 13:47

He assured me I was just paranoid is quite a line, isn't it.

He didn't assure you he loved you, would never do anything to hurt you, could always be held to account for his actions and would always be honest with you, however difficult or uncomfortable he might sometimes find that.

No. He assured you that the problem was all with you, in your head.

lottiegarbanzo · 07/09/2020 13:55

I mean, I know it's just a line. A way of saying 'he assured me there was nothing to worry about'. I can't help finding it an interesting choice of words though.

rosiejaune · 07/09/2020 14:06

What if your parents sold their house instead of rebuilding it, and used the money to buy your partner out, and adapt your house instead?

You don't need to know how to handle him if you are splitting up; just engage as little as possible and ignore any lies that are not about practical details of separating.

MiddleClassProblem · 07/09/2020 15:48

@rosiejaune

What if your parents sold their house instead of rebuilding it, and used the money to buy your partner out, and adapt your house instead?

You don't need to know how to handle him if you are splitting up; just engage as little as possible and ignore any lies that are not about practical details of separating.

Why should their parents lose their home for this!?!
Thripp · 07/09/2020 19:02

@Bananalanacake I was also wondering if it was something to do with using the toothpaste tube or his toothbrush for the purposes of self-pleasure. 😂

@ShastaBeast I am glad I don't have a television if that's the kind of thing it would tell me (I have also had a sheltered life, for which I am now even more grateful).

OP, thank you for shedding some light on this.

I now need to know why anyone would choose to brush their teeth in the shower. Confused

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