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To be sick of people assuming the PTA is full of a certain type of parent/social climbers etc

156 replies

PartyCat · 04/09/2020 14:08

I am a single working parent with a very busy, stressful life, not your typical tiger-mom by any stretch. I am sick of the number of times I have read people on here saying something about the PTA type mums - I only did it because it is basic social responsibility and we need to raise money for our schools as they are on their knees, and no-one else would bloody well step up. There were only a handful of us (at best) who did all the heavy lifting, the rest would just turn up and everything already be organised, as if by the magic PTA pixies! I am sick of hearing about whatsapp groups about people complaining about something we did or arranged, or how it was handled. Then step the fuck up yourself and do it as it was the last thing I wanted or needed to do, and was extremely stressful. I know some schools may fit the stereotype that everyone seems to think about PTAs, but not ours. Even if the women (let's face it, it is usually women, not sure why men think they have nothing to do with their kids education) in your school do fulfil the stereotype you have, at least they are actually doing something to help their kids and YOURS. Stop carping from the sidelines and get off your arse and help out too. Or at the very least, please stop making massive assumptions about the types of people in them. Cheers!

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AnneElliott · 05/09/2020 17:29

I hear you op. I did 7 years as treasurer and couldn't believe how much the other parents moaned.

I still help out as the new treasurer is a mate and last year it was me, her and another mum who turned up at 8:30am. Most of the others didn't get there until 12.

There are regular moaners who would never lift a finger.

MsTSwift · 05/09/2020 17:40

It’s the moaners I resented. Fine not to help out whatever but don’t bitch about events put on by volunteers to those volunteers 🙄. Dh manned a BBQ once after a very intense week at work and did not deal well with moaners complaining they had to wait too long for their burgers. He is still bonded with the mum who did the bbq with him. He is certainly not cut out for selfless volunteering!

BlowingmyJets · 05/09/2020 17:45

I'd strongly object to a levy without options on what to spend the money on.

Whoever gave out paper packs to deprived dc during lockdown!

Our school didn't even give out paper packs!!

cologne4711 · 05/09/2020 17:48

I wonder if the stereotype is the reason parents don't volunteer. Sure, some are lazy. Some are busy. Some don't feel social responsibility. Maybe all three. But perhaps they're just intimidated by bad experiences in the school playground etc.

DoubleDolphin · 05/09/2020 17:51

"10MsTSwift

Funding is so low we had to fund raise for paint and paint the loos ourselves. That was a fun weekend 🙄. We painted both girls loos then some parents queried why we hadn’t done the boys. Well there’s the paint love knock yourself out!"

School didnt have a caretaker?

cologne4711 · 05/09/2020 17:53

After nine minutes, I came out with the bags and tried to find out where to put them. They fucking blanked me in favour of continuing their conversation about Ballet lessons

Not PTA but I had a similar experience a few years ago when I helped marshal at my local triathlon. I stood at my post for hours and nobody offered me tea or a glass of water (which had been promised) or came to tell me that I could finish as the participants had finished. Eventually I wandered off and the person who organised it had the cheek to tell me off or going into the restricted bit where people left their bikes. Well maybe you could have had the courtesy to tell when I could stand down. Should have got a t-shirt for volunteering but didn't. Never offered to help again again. He was so unpleasant, I don't actually know why I didn't tear him off a strip for his rudeness and lack of any sort of gratitude for people helping.

MsTSwift · 05/09/2020 18:04

Not one that would deign to paint the loos no 🙄

ALLIS0N · 05/09/2020 18:10

Caretakers don’t do painting , this isn’t an Enid Blyton book.

squeekums · 05/09/2020 18:15

Ahh the joys of dd on the school bus, going to school the town over.
I've never once been bailed up or guilted into helping with the pta at this school. I've been on school grounds twice this year, not on fb or WhatsApp so dont see that stuff if they put it there. I miss all this school gate, pta drama
Dd isn't interested in many of the things put on anyway

Dd old school, they fit the pta stereotype perfectly.

Boredbumhead · 05/09/2020 18:21

I couldn't understand the motivation of PTA's. To raise money of course. But all the cakes and rainbow stalls and cheap hot dogs at a packed Xmas fayre just made me depressed.

Miseryl · 05/09/2020 18:31

I have never and would never volunteer for the PTA but would always give a cash donation if I could and would never criticise those who did not volunteer.

BUT I don't think being on the PTA entitles anyone to be a martyr, as you are. Help out gladly or not at all. If the PTA didn't exist, well then it wouldn't exist. The school would still function.

AlexaShutUp · 05/09/2020 18:58

Are you involved in that?

Yes.

DoubleDolphin · 06/09/2020 08:16

"Caretakers don’t do painting , this isn’t an Enid Blyton book."

I think you will find its in the job description.

SimonJT · 06/09/2020 08:23

@ALLIS0N

Caretakers don’t do painting , this isn’t an Enid Blyton book.
They do at my sons primary school.
tearinyourhand · 06/09/2020 08:35

I've seen this from both sides. I was involved with the PTA for years and there was no drama, just parents who gave up their time to support the school.

Then we got a new chair and it became a nightmare. I would never have believed it could be so awful. She bullied and was sneaky, she tried to dictate how the principal ran the school. Eventually the PTA consisted of her and her two best friends. They repeatedly turned down offers of help at events and then complained that they had to do everything themselves. They raise far less money than under previous leadership, and mismanage their funds so badly that they are actually breaking the law (it's a registered charity). I will never again give them the time of day.

MNX42 · 06/09/2020 08:39

I was in the PTA for a while when my dc were younger. Christ it was tedious! No queen bee types, just interminably long meetings where people would dwell on and niggle about the most pointlessly tiny details this was my experience too. One particular meeting comes to mind, when most of the evening was taken up debating whether to have pouring cream or squirty cream for the strawberries at the summer fete. I did my bit for a few years, but didn't make any friends from it. I was always seen as a bit of an outsider as I was an incomer to the village.

Greysparkles · 06/09/2020 09:33

Our PTA clearly don’t want working parents as all meetings and events are in office hours. They would rather be martyrs than consider meeting in the evening as it isn’t convenient for them

Our PTA gets this critique alot, but tbh we've had so many evening meetings, at the pub, in peoples houses etc, but STILL no one comes! So we've stopped doing it, because yes it's not convenient for many of us so why bother?

unmarkedbythat · 06/09/2020 10:20

@ALLIS0N

Caretakers don’t do painting , this isn’t an Enid Blyton book.
Are you on the PTA?
DoubleDolphin · 06/09/2020 10:34

"ALLIS0N

Caretakers don’t do painting , this isn’t an Enid Blyton book"

Another pta person doing something that they didnt need to do, to make themselves look better.

Picklypickles · 06/09/2020 11:17

I was on our pre-school PTA for a few years, even after my kids had gone to school. There weren't many of us and so I was always willing to help out with things and made it very clear that I was usually available and willing to help with stuff, it got to be a real pain in the ass though, often 2 of the mums would meet up together just the two of them and decide things that should be done, not mention it to me or anyone else, run themselves ragged doing the thing themselves and then later on would be all snarky and passive aggressive about the fact that they were the only ones doing anything?! I honestly think they just enjoyed being martyrs and going around lying to all of their boring ass-kissing friends about how wonderful they are for running the PTA single-handedly because nobody else will pitch in.

MsTSwift · 06/09/2020 11:30

Hand on heart I would not choose to paint public loos in my spare time! The caretaker was adamant painting was not his job a local business kindly donated paint so parents (not pta just any parents who could face it) were asked to come and paint as there wasnt money available in the school budget to pay someone to do it. Was worth it though the loos were in a terrible state they were slightly less bad when painted.

MsTSwift · 06/09/2020 11:33

Not sure people aware of extent of under funding for primaries 🙁

MsTSwift · 06/09/2020 11:35

Other teams did the classrooms was a big job took days actually

RattleOfBars · 06/09/2020 11:36

I know you’re doing a good thing, but try to see it from others perspectives too.

Lots of parents work full time and can’t/don’t want to join the PTA!

PTA has a reputation for trying to squeeze more and more money out of parents. There’s enough pressure already. Especially parents of new starters who’ve had to splash out on the full uniform, gym kit, sports kit, book bags, umpteen different pairs of shoes etc.

MsTSwift · 06/09/2020 11:37

Actually it was a governor that organised it nothing to with pta so ignore me