For reporting large gathering

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Name changed for this because it might be outing. My neighbours are horsey and have about 30 acres of land.

I bumped into the husband this morning on a dog walk and asked him what the big marquee was for (they have all kinds of horsey events on there throughout the year - camps etc). He said it was his daughters 30th so they were having a hog roast and disco tomorrow night. He then said me and my partner would be welcome to join if we wanted, I just smiled and thanked him and then as I carried on my dog walk I got more and more irate thinking of all the people coming from all over to my neighbour for this party - I wished I'd said something but honestly I was so surprised they were doing it!
His wife then invited me via FB to the FB event - it has 120 invited with 87 marked as "going".
I'm not a fun sponge, really I'm not, but with coronavirus I think this is wholly unnecessary. I'm also not usually the sort of person to think of reporting people but we're rural, we have been blessed with low numbers, I'm angry they're doing this. WIBU to report them and if not... how?!

@vapeinafleshlight

"Its a 30th birthday not a rave"

Well what's the difference? That's the third time raves have been mentioned

Would you all report a "rave"?

Because the street parties and raves have been working class kids and not naice middle class birthday parties in a marquee?

you should go, sounds like you need some fun.

i wouldn’t dream of reporting anyone and it’s a 39th birthday.

if you do report them i bet you don’t have the balls to tell them it was you

OP, I don't really understand why you have changed your mind. Surely there is a right thing to do and a wrong thing to do (which differs from person to person 😅). You gave the impression you felt you should report it but now you don't want to. Are you bowing to peer pressure or has something changed?

YABVU

Do you understand how this virus is still in circulation in the community?

Currently about 1 person in 2000 is infected. That's an average, so as OP has said she's in a low-risk area, it's likely to be less than that.

The chances of someone having it at the party of around 100 people is very, very low.

I think her neighbour is entitled to take a calculated risk on this.

And if everyone takes that calculated risk the rate would be a lot higher, which I assume is what has happened in areas of local lockdown. What makes this family so special?

I suppose I've "changed my mind" because I was very cross about it when I posted, having calmed down a little bit and given my head a wobble, I don't really have it in me to phone the police and report them.

@UntamedWisteria whether he is making a "calculated risk assessment" or not is irrelevant- you are not allowed to have gatherings over 30 people from my understanding. My parents were absolutely zero risk of spreading the virus when they wanted to stay with us during lockdown but they couldn't because the restrictions prevented them from doing so.

If everyone did their own risk assessments we would be in dire straits not least because (as highlighted by this thread) common sense appears to be anything but common.

You know what, I appreciate that the rules are there for a reason.

But I also think that a more nuanced approach should be possible too.

We can all follow the spirit of the rules without necessarily sticking to the letter of them.

I've been quarantining this week (4 more days to go) but I have also been walking the dog - which isn't allowed under the rules. Because I live in the middle of nowhere and the chances of me meeting another person as I tramp along the bridleway at 7 am are infinitesimally small.

And it works both ways. DS is due to return from a holiday in a Covid hotspot tomorrow. It's not on the quarantine list, but he will still be self-isolating out of a sense of responsibility - to us and others.

The rules have to be black and white, I get that. But I also think there are many shades of grey in between - and I think the police time needs to be saved for the really flagrant risky behaviour and rule breaches.

I would go.. probably have a jolly good time!

@UntamedWisteria

Do you understand how this virus is still in circulation in the community?

Currently about 1 person in 2000 is infected. That's an average, so as OP has said she's in a low-risk area, it's likely to be less than that.

The chances of someone having it at the party of around 100 people is very, very low.

I think her neighbour is entitled to take a calculated risk on this.

It's almost a 1 in 20 chance there'll be someone there with it, so not very, very low.

Quite low.

But if that was on a risk register, it'd be high impact due to possible super spreader event.

So I don't think it's a good idea, and it absolutely is why this type of event is currently illegal.

You would have to go to 20 such gatherings to encounter a person with Covid.

Currently about 1 person in 2000 is infected. That's an average, so as OP has said she's in a low-risk area, it's likely to be less than that.The chances of someone having it at the party of around 100 people is very, very low.I think her neighbour is entitled to take a calculated risk on this.

It's not about making a calculated risk FFS!
There is a RULE.

Made by people far more educated and able to assess risk than people here.

One reason we have had so many cases is because so many people want to make up their OWN rule as they feel they are a special case.

It's like saying it's fine to drive at 90mph because 'I assessed the risks on the road and decided it was safe.'

So many people are so silly.

You would have to go to 20 such gatherings to encounter a person with Covid.

Or just one where there was a cluster but they had no symptoms and didn't know they carried it.

Read my other post Jingling.

And breaking the speed limit really isn't a valid comparison.

@UntamedWisteria

You would have to go to 20 such gatherings to encounter a person with Covid.

Yes you would, but you can see why they are illegal, surely?

We are a society, and if 20, 200 or 2000 of these events happen, the problems increase for all of us?

Yes, you would be very unreasonable to appoint yourself Neighbourhood Prefect in this way. But then you already knew this.

If it was that simple, why would England, Wales and Scotland have different rules about quarantining if you've been in Greece or Portugal?

And yes of course, you wouldn't have to go to twenty, because the first one you went to might be the one with the problem.

@UntamedWisteria

If it was that simple, why would England, Wales and Scotland have different rules about quarantining if you've been in Greece or Portugal?

Because they a different parts of the Union with different aims. Wales and Scotland are working to a zero covid strategy, England is not.

All the people who can't understand things, why won't they just follow the guidelines set by people who do?

I'm questioning the guidelines precisely because I am capable of understanding the facts and the stats !

Should I tell my DS returning from a Covid hotspot with a bit of a sniffle not to bother self-isolating because the guidelines say it's not necessary?

@UntamedWisteria

I'm questioning the guidelines precisely because I am capable of understanding the facts and the stats !

Should I tell my DS returning from a Covid hotspot with a bit of a sniffle not to bother self-isolating because the guidelines say it's not necessary?

If you want to go beyond the guidelines that's up to you.

I thought you were arguing against the party guidelines. If I misunderstood

I didn't report it, just in case any of you are wondering.

I did overhear a conversation in the village post office earlier that seemed to be low key outrage and cowardly thought that they could report if they so wished.

It's 9.45, it's rainy and apart from a small amount of hard arse smokers huddled around a windy fire pit, everyone is inside the marquee. I'd say there are definitely over 100 people here, at least 40 cars parked in the field. I'm not curtain twitching, I walked the dogs past at about 7pm and saw.

It is what it is - I judge them for doing it, but they're good neighbours and I didn't want to be that fun sponge at the end of the day. I hope there isn't a spike locally, really.

I'd report it ... 87 people is far more than maximum of 30 people in any indoor space. And a marquee is an indoor space (unless all the sides are completely open which given its an evening event seems unlikely).

I can see why people would be unsure about reporting something with say 32 people ... but 3 or 4 times the number allowed is selfish and unfair to everyone isn't able to have many people funerals or weddings etc.

People will do whatever they want to do at Christmas, regardless of another lockdown, just like they did during the last one.

No , I don’t think people did whatever they wanted in the last lockdown - sure, there will always be selfish counts cadialky disregarding the law and others , but no, people didn’t just do what they wanted (Dominic Cummings apart)

Selfish CUNTS