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to not want DD(14) to have this T-Shirt

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SqueamishMum · 01/09/2020 11:56

Need a sanity check here (have name-changed so this isn't linked to other threads as I may be identifiable here)

A couple of weeks ago, DD(14) and I went to a thrift shop. I had given her some money to spend. She came up to me holding a T-Shirt balled up in her hands so I couldn't see the design, saying she was going to buy it.

Once she had bought it, she said to me "mum, you're not going to like this" and showed me the design on the T-Shirt. Basically it is a cartoon of someone getting their arm shredded in a blender with their eyes popping out. It is quite stylised and cartoony, but it is, in my opinion, gory (lots of cartoon blood).

I was unimpressed and said to her that I wasn't happy with her having it. She then said to me "oh well, too late to return it now" and swanned out of the shop.

I was pretty angry at her attitude and called her back. I went up to the counter with her and said she was to return it. The young woman behind the counter looked at the T-Shirt and said "really? I like it". I repeated that it was to be returned. She turned to my daughter and said "do you want to return it?". I said to her again that it was to be returned. My daughter was saying "it's my money!", but then relented and said she would return it.

The manager had to be called. The T-shirt was returned. My daughter went back into the shop to find something else to buy. I was feeling really angry, with my daughter for trying to get one over on me, but more with the attitude of the shop assistant undermining me, so I waited outside the shop.

My daughter came out with a couple of non-gory T-shirts and we left.

It has since transpired that the shop assistant, feeling sorry for my daughter, gave her the gory t-shirt free of charge.

My daughter confessed this to me, then said she had worn it out, and her dad really likes it, his girlfriend really likes it, her friend and her friend's mother really likes it. It's only me that doesn't like it. (Her dad btw utterly despises me and will take any opportunity to undermine me with her).

I personally feel it's really antisocial to wear a t-shirt like that out at the park (as DD has been doing) where there are small kids. It's a nasty image and it makes me feel squeamish every time I see it.

I've told DD that I don't want her wearing it around me. She said OK . This weekend she came back from her dad's wearing it. I told her to change and she said "it's fine, I'm only going to be wearing it upstairs where you can't see".

I'm not generally draconian about my daughter's style choices - I just find the image on this T-shirt inappropriate. However, it seems the shop assistant and other adults she's talked to about it since think I'm over the top.

I'm willing to accept that maybe I am being - but feel DD's testing boundaries on quite a few things atm. I'm generally a bit of a pushover and was trying to be less so this time.

Would be really interested to know what others think

Thanks

OP posts:
WorraLiberty · 01/09/2020 13:01

Only 4 more years til she can get tattoos 😂😉

Soubriquet · 01/09/2020 13:01

@SBTLove

That’s a really uptight attitude, nobody is looking or disapproving at your DDs t-shirt in the park! Do ppl police their teenagers clothing? this is the time to find their style and experiment. My DD15 is always coming up with a new look, not all to my liking but she’s her own person. There seems to be a lot of very uptight controlling parents on MN, determined to keep them young and withhold independence.
Don’t get me wrong, I see what some people wear and I think “oh my god they paid money..for that!” but within half an hour I’ve completely forgotten what they and the clothing look like
user1487194234 · 01/09/2020 13:03

I think YaBU ,sorry ,i expect you meant well,,but its all far too much fuss about a T shirt.IME you need to pick your battles with teens .I don't really like the 'my way or the high way attitude of some posters'

SqueamishMum · 01/09/2020 13:03

I don't know what it was about the T-shirt for me. If school allowed them to go in with dyed hair/piercings I wouldn't have problems with stuff like that. She used to go out wearing turquoise lipstick aged 11 - I had no problem with that either.

I don't think I'm generally a controlling person, but I'm going to take a hard look at myself. I suppose I just worry about messing up (and in this case messed up!)

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ummnamechange · 01/09/2020 13:04

If you want to do something proactive. Sit down with her and start with apologising for over-reacting and explain why you reacted why you did.

Explain what you want to do in the future and see if she can see your POV.

If you treat her as a child - she will do childish things, treat as a grown up and you will get adult decisions..

Adult to adult is far more emotionally healthy

canteenofcutlery · 01/09/2020 13:04

Are you in the UK ? The term I hear used the most to describe this type of shop is ' charity shop ' not ' thrift shop'.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 01/09/2020 13:05

She's 14! Do you want her to despise you?

There are better ways to manage teenagers than that! Trust me! My parents were similarly unbending and judgemental and I have been no contact with them virtually all of my adult life.

I am not saying she can do as she pleases, but setting up such a hard "No!" about something with such low emotional context as a T Shirt leaves you nowhere to go when something big happens! She simply won't trust you or confide in you!

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 01/09/2020 13:05

The shop assistant sounds lovely.

You need to get a grip OP.

katy1213 · 01/09/2020 13:06

You're massively over-reacting. It sounds awful - but she's 14, she's old enough to choose her own clothes. It's only a T-shirt. Far worse if she wanted a gory tattoo!

Yeahnahmum · 01/09/2020 13:07

It was "given to her"???
Right... I wouldnt believe that for a sec

Also I would damage it or lose it in the laundry if i was you

workhomesleeprepeat · 01/09/2020 13:07

Wow. Read your updates and can't actually believe this is real.

You say you are not normally strict and are not sure why you choose this hill to die on. Its really v strange!

Please work on being consistent. My mum was like you when I was a teen, randomly deciding what I could and couldn't do, have and not have, and it was really confusing.

I just started lying to her and telling her what she wanted to hear instead.

SqueamishMum · 01/09/2020 13:07

About lyrics in songs - I know what songs she's listening to - and yes, I don't like the lyrics of the more misogynistic of them, but we talk about it. I'm not going about shielding her from everything in the world .

As for tatoos - she does plan to get tattoos. I've said when she's old enough that's up to her.

I suppose I'm just uptight about gore/violence.

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lecossaise · 01/09/2020 13:07

As a former emo kid I advise taking lots of photos to embarrass her with when she moves on from such questionable fashion choices.

lyralalala · 01/09/2020 13:09

You need to think about why she felt the need to hide if from you.

Kids should be able to make choices we don't like - it's part of learning and growing up.

If she needs to hide things from you then it's a much bigger problem. How did she pre-empt that you'd be so against the t-shirt if you are normally a pushover? Is her clothing generally something you clash over?

Rubbleonthedouble1 · 01/09/2020 13:09

Need to see a pic

bambinaballerina · 01/09/2020 13:09

It sounds like you have massively overreacted. It's just a t shirt with a cartoon on it, not a tattoo that says :"I love Satan" on her forehead.

I'm not sure why a PP is against crop tops snd ripped jeans, I wear them and am a quite balances adult.

Why did she feel like she had to hide the purchase from you if you discuss everything?

SqueamishMum · 01/09/2020 13:10

ummnamechange - thank you. I think I will talk with her and apologise tonight and see if we can discuss it.

I accept that I have a lot to learn as a parent

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LioneIRichTea · 01/09/2020 13:11

Wow all these PPs saying it would get binned, ‘lost’ have an ‘accident’ or get ‘bleached’. What an awful example to set! Why are you so blasé about damaging other people’s property?! Confused

bambinaballerina · 01/09/2020 13:12

*Please work on being consistent. My mum was like you when I was a teen, randomly deciding what I could and couldn't do, have and not have, and it was really confusing.

I just started lying to her and telling her what she wanted to hear instead.*

Same thing here.

GisAFag · 01/09/2020 13:14

It's a t shirt that she chose. It's not inappropriate, it's not sexulising anyone. How awful for her, you embarrassed her.

Louise91417 · 01/09/2020 13:15

It wouldnt really have annoyed me as a lot of teenagers can be just weird with their choice of clothing and it passes, so not really worth the headache of differing opinions. In saying that, it didnt really occur to me me that little kids would be seeing it in park..based on that said t-shirt would be having a mishap in washing machineHmm

Carouselfish · 01/09/2020 13:17

Seems a strange hill to die on OP. Agree about not wearing it around small children perhaps. I'd be more concerned about provocative slogan-type tees I didn't agree with the message of, or overtly sexualised things like half-butt shorts! The shop assistant was totally out of line though!

MazDazzle · 01/09/2020 13:18

And much less than that if she wants something pierced @WorraLiberty! Grin

Honestly, choose your battles. This really doesn’t seem like that big of a deal.

speakout · 01/09/2020 13:19

I think you know you handled this badly OP.

The T shirt does not sound pleasant but you could have asked her not to wear it in front of you, it could have been dealt with without all the drama.

BigYellowFlower · 01/09/2020 13:24

Personally I wouldn't have returned it to the shop because then it's out in the wild again and could make a sneaky comeback (and I had that immediate thought even before I even read the rest of your post where lo and behold, it did manage to make a sneaky comeback!) (veteran past teenage rebel dresser here).

I would have kept a firm hold of it/confiscated it to be disposed of later and probably offered to buy her something else. My own mum was not above a bit of such bribery on occasion and yes it works.

And also, even as a past rebel dresser who is quite open to my own teenagers' self expression through clothing, I personally would not like the sound of the image you describe either and wouldn't want to see it. I do think that you have some bottom line say over what a 14yo wears, if you pick your battles the rest of the time.