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to not want DD(14) to have this T-Shirt

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SqueamishMum · 01/09/2020 11:56

Need a sanity check here (have name-changed so this isn't linked to other threads as I may be identifiable here)

A couple of weeks ago, DD(14) and I went to a thrift shop. I had given her some money to spend. She came up to me holding a T-Shirt balled up in her hands so I couldn't see the design, saying she was going to buy it.

Once she had bought it, she said to me "mum, you're not going to like this" and showed me the design on the T-Shirt. Basically it is a cartoon of someone getting their arm shredded in a blender with their eyes popping out. It is quite stylised and cartoony, but it is, in my opinion, gory (lots of cartoon blood).

I was unimpressed and said to her that I wasn't happy with her having it. She then said to me "oh well, too late to return it now" and swanned out of the shop.

I was pretty angry at her attitude and called her back. I went up to the counter with her and said she was to return it. The young woman behind the counter looked at the T-Shirt and said "really? I like it". I repeated that it was to be returned. She turned to my daughter and said "do you want to return it?". I said to her again that it was to be returned. My daughter was saying "it's my money!", but then relented and said she would return it.

The manager had to be called. The T-shirt was returned. My daughter went back into the shop to find something else to buy. I was feeling really angry, with my daughter for trying to get one over on me, but more with the attitude of the shop assistant undermining me, so I waited outside the shop.

My daughter came out with a couple of non-gory T-shirts and we left.

It has since transpired that the shop assistant, feeling sorry for my daughter, gave her the gory t-shirt free of charge.

My daughter confessed this to me, then said she had worn it out, and her dad really likes it, his girlfriend really likes it, her friend and her friend's mother really likes it. It's only me that doesn't like it. (Her dad btw utterly despises me and will take any opportunity to undermine me with her).

I personally feel it's really antisocial to wear a t-shirt like that out at the park (as DD has been doing) where there are small kids. It's a nasty image and it makes me feel squeamish every time I see it.

I've told DD that I don't want her wearing it around me. She said OK . This weekend she came back from her dad's wearing it. I told her to change and she said "it's fine, I'm only going to be wearing it upstairs where you can't see".

I'm not generally draconian about my daughter's style choices - I just find the image on this T-shirt inappropriate. However, it seems the shop assistant and other adults she's talked to about it since think I'm over the top.

I'm willing to accept that maybe I am being - but feel DD's testing boundaries on quite a few things atm. I'm generally a bit of a pushover and was trying to be less so this time.

Would be really interested to know what others think

Thanks

OP posts:
user1471447924 · 01/09/2020 12:23

One word: bleach.

Ullupullu · 01/09/2020 12:24
  1. She certainly would not have been given it for free in the current economic climate. I assume she bought it.
  1. Let her rebel with the awful t shirt! If that's the worst of her teenage rebellion then hurrah.
IntermittentParps · 01/09/2020 12:25

Hard to say, but going by the description you give, I think it sounds fine. She's fourteen, not a tiny child.

I'd actually be a bit concerned that she concealed it from you in order to get it bought for her. IMO it's better to be able to have a more open conversation about difficult things.

QueenofmyPrinces · 01/09/2020 12:25

So basically it's a picture similar to itchy and scratchy on the Simpsons?

This is exactly what I thought too.

Can you post a picture OP? Maybe it’s gorier than we are imagining?

user1471457751 · 01/09/2020 12:26

I don't understand why posters are furious with the shop assistant. It's not their job to mediate in family disputes, they are there to sell clothes. The OP's teenager had the money and wanted to buy the t-shirt, unless there are legal restrictions on a purchase why should a shop assistant say no?
This just reminds me of when I worked in a shop and parents would say to their misbehaving kids 'be good or the shop assistant will tell you off' and I'm stood there thinking 'bloody well parent your own kid it's not my responsibility'.

WorraLiberty · 01/09/2020 12:27

The people who are saying the OP should destroy the t.shirt are even worse than the OP and that's saying something.

At least she's been honest with her daughter about how controlling she is.

yakj67 · 01/09/2020 12:27

Don't 'have an accident' with it. My mum did this to all my clothes she didn't like (they weren't gory T-shirts either). I knew every time.

vanillandhoney · 01/09/2020 12:28

It's just a t-shirt.

I can't believe people are advocating damaging it on purpose. What ridiculous behaviour from grown adults.

SqueamishMum · 01/09/2020 12:28

Thank you, I really appreciate people replying and I am taking this on board.

I definitely think the shop assistant gave the T-shirt to her (it's a commercial thrift shop rather than a charity shop, so it wasn't a donation). It would fit with the way the shop assistant was when I was trying to return it. I didn't demand to see the manager - just the shop assistant said she'd need to get the manager if we wanted a refund (wasn't trying to get them to back me up - just refund the money and not get involved really).

A couple of folks have hit the nail on the head where they've picked up on the fact that it was more to do with my daughter's attitude - the deliberately hiding the image as she knew I'd dislike it and then "oh well, too late now" and swanning out of the shop.

I'm prepared to accept I was probably over the top. As I've said, I'm generally a pushover about stuff so I'm not sure why I chose this hill to die on on that particular day, I just didn't like the way I was spoken to I suppose. Sad

OP posts:
ButteryPuffin · 01/09/2020 12:28

Does she do her own washing? I would certainly expect her to if she's old enough to buy and wear clothes you disapprove of.

DopamineHits · 01/09/2020 12:29

She didn't steal it, it would still have been behind the shop counter.

WorraLiberty · 01/09/2020 12:29

I'd actually be a bit concerned that she concealed it from you in order to get it bought for her.

She was buying it with her own money! I think it's even worse she still had to conceal it. It's a cartoon t.shirt, not an X rated movie!

IntermittentParps · 01/09/2020 12:29

I don't understand why posters are furious with the shop assistant. It's not their job to mediate in family disputes, they are there to sell clothes

She DID try to 'mediate' though (or interfere). She gave her personal opinion on it, and went over the OP to ask her DD if she really wanted to return it. She was out of order.

Regularsizedrudy · 01/09/2020 12:29

Really? This is the hill you’re going to die on?

geekone · 01/09/2020 12:30

@Wheresthebiffer2

If it were my daughter, the tee-shirt would never re-surface after washing. (ie she can wear it once, but then I will bin it). I think you are correct in being firm - keep control now as things are about to get tricky. Ripped jeans, cropped tops, bum-cheek showing shorts - rude logos. Stand firm mama, and protect your daughter from her own bad taste.
Oh heavens ripped jeans the world is doomed. Get a grip, how overbearing!

OP the T-shirt isn’t to your taste but she is 14 so really you should just deal take a deep breath and move on. More worrying is that your child feels she has to lie about something so innocuous, even before it was given back to her for “free” if she feels she needs to conceal a T-shirt picture from you in case you over react what more important things is she going to hide in the future?

IntermittentParps · 01/09/2020 12:30

She was buying it with her own money!

Yes, OK, I made an error.
My point stands though.

Everysinglebloodytime · 01/09/2020 12:30

Jeez you behaved appallingly in the shop, I'd have been mortified if you were my mum and it would have dramatically changed my relationship with you.

You've massively overreacted.

humblesims · 01/09/2020 12:30

I'd say pick your battles and that this is no biggie really. didnt you ever wear stuff your parents dissapproved of? There will be bigger battles than this one believe me. As for the shop assistant, well they are volunteers in charity shops and only human. Yes she was probably wrong but ...meh.

TeaStory · 01/09/2020 12:30

You need to pick your battles, pushing on and making this such a big thing will only make it worse (As it already has). She’s 14. We all wore things our mums didn’t like at that age.

And DON’T “have an accident” with it. Deliberately destroying your daughter’s property because you don’t like it is really nasty, and she will know that’s what you did. I’m really disappointed that other posters are suggesting that.

ScrapThatThen · 01/09/2020 12:31

So if you are a pushover, why suddenly in such a tussle over clothing? How about giving freedom on style choices and boundaries on safety and behaviour? Your actions were odd I think. Discuss don't dictate. Unless it's harmful.

Jk987 · 01/09/2020 12:31

If it doesn’t reference any drug or sex theme then I’d say let her be a bit rebellious and wear it. There are worse things a teen can do or say.

WorraLiberty · 01/09/2020 12:31

A couple of folks have hit the nail on the head where they've picked up on the fact that it was more to do with my daughter's attitude - the deliberately hiding the image as she knew I'd dislike it and then "oh well, too late now" and swanning out of the shop.

Don't blame your 14yr old daughter for the fact she has to conceal a cartoon t.shirt from her mum, that she was buying with her own money.

Look in the mirror OP and ask yourself why she felt she had to do that.

Mammatino · 01/09/2020 12:32

Explain what you found offensive about the T-shirt and why it might upset and distress others. Maybe look at your own reasons for being upset too. If she wants to wear it she will make her mind up. The shop assistant would have got short shrift. If she really did give her the shirt I would be furious, anyone encouraging a young teen to have secrets from their mother is wrong. I’m sure it was innocent and I think you need to let it go with your daughter.

makingmammaries · 01/09/2020 12:32

Your washing machine occasionally rips clothes, doesn’t it?

Whatsnewpussyhat · 01/09/2020 12:33

Do you think this will be the worst thing she wears in the next few years? 😂😂