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to not want DD(14) to have this T-Shirt

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SqueamishMum · 01/09/2020 11:56

Need a sanity check here (have name-changed so this isn't linked to other threads as I may be identifiable here)

A couple of weeks ago, DD(14) and I went to a thrift shop. I had given her some money to spend. She came up to me holding a T-Shirt balled up in her hands so I couldn't see the design, saying she was going to buy it.

Once she had bought it, she said to me "mum, you're not going to like this" and showed me the design on the T-Shirt. Basically it is a cartoon of someone getting their arm shredded in a blender with their eyes popping out. It is quite stylised and cartoony, but it is, in my opinion, gory (lots of cartoon blood).

I was unimpressed and said to her that I wasn't happy with her having it. She then said to me "oh well, too late to return it now" and swanned out of the shop.

I was pretty angry at her attitude and called her back. I went up to the counter with her and said she was to return it. The young woman behind the counter looked at the T-Shirt and said "really? I like it". I repeated that it was to be returned. She turned to my daughter and said "do you want to return it?". I said to her again that it was to be returned. My daughter was saying "it's my money!", but then relented and said she would return it.

The manager had to be called. The T-shirt was returned. My daughter went back into the shop to find something else to buy. I was feeling really angry, with my daughter for trying to get one over on me, but more with the attitude of the shop assistant undermining me, so I waited outside the shop.

My daughter came out with a couple of non-gory T-shirts and we left.

It has since transpired that the shop assistant, feeling sorry for my daughter, gave her the gory t-shirt free of charge.

My daughter confessed this to me, then said she had worn it out, and her dad really likes it, his girlfriend really likes it, her friend and her friend's mother really likes it. It's only me that doesn't like it. (Her dad btw utterly despises me and will take any opportunity to undermine me with her).

I personally feel it's really antisocial to wear a t-shirt like that out at the park (as DD has been doing) where there are small kids. It's a nasty image and it makes me feel squeamish every time I see it.

I've told DD that I don't want her wearing it around me. She said OK . This weekend she came back from her dad's wearing it. I told her to change and she said "it's fine, I'm only going to be wearing it upstairs where you can't see".

I'm not generally draconian about my daughter's style choices - I just find the image on this T-shirt inappropriate. However, it seems the shop assistant and other adults she's talked to about it since think I'm over the top.

I'm willing to accept that maybe I am being - but feel DD's testing boundaries on quite a few things atm. I'm generally a bit of a pushover and was trying to be less so this time.

Would be really interested to know what others think

Thanks

OP posts:
PerditaNitt · 01/09/2020 15:35

OP, don’t take too much offence at the comments. People can often express their views more harshly on an Internet forum than they would in person! Most people who post on AIBU have a firm idea of the answer they want, whereas you seem very open to the idea you may have overreacted a little. I admire that.

On another note, my parents whole heartedly approved of all of my clothes when I was a teenager because I went through a horrendous hippy phase (long skirts, tie dye, floppy velvet hats, but no free love) - they loved the fact that dressed as I was, I was pretty unlikely to attract a boyfriend who would distract me from my studies. The photos are cringeworthy and fabulous in equal measure!

notacooldad · 01/09/2020 15:44

One word: bleach
If it were my daughter, the tee-shirt would never re-surface after washing. (ie she can wear it once, but then I will bin it)
Or yes, ensure it gets lost in the wash
i would be FURIOUS and it would be getting damaged in the washI wouldn't have argued, i would have had "an accident" with it whilst washing/ironing...........*
Your washing machine occasionally rips clothes, doesn’t it?

I cant believe the nastiness of some people.
So the OP doesn't like a not particularly offensive t shirt but that doesn't mean she should destroy her daughters property on purpose.
Ok so the DD had a bit of an attitude. This is normal. No one is perfect every minute of every day. Even adults get irrational, moody and bloody weird sometimes ( Some more often than others!)
DD is ' boundary pushing', completely normal and trying to shock, or perhaps she genuinely likes the t shirt and like a lot of us on here can't see what the problem is.

At least it's not as bad as ' Dead gir's cant say no' This was on a tshirt on a guy at the pub the other day. To be fair he was a loud mouth gobshite.( and the t shirt is probably about 5 years old!)
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nogoodsolution · 01/09/2020 15:49

OP, I was going to say YABU until I read the whole thread. In fact, I think you have done exactly what pretty much ever parent of a teenager has done at some point - namely lock horns over something that really isn't worth it. The thing is, you don't know at the time that it will end up with a great battle of wills. It just somehow seems to creep up on you.

I still fall into that trap despite all said experience.

I also think you have responded very graciously to all the responses on here!

WeAllHaveWings · 01/09/2020 15:50

She is 14 now, starting to get to the age where you need to gradually moving your role in her life from manager, where you tell her what to do/where to go/what to wear, to consultant where she comes to you, listens respectfully to your advice but then makes and owns her own decisions. You let things go wrong and they work it out for themselves.

She hid the top from you because she knew you wouldn't listen to her.

cjpark · 01/09/2020 15:56

I wouldn't have made a fuss and then put it in the wash with a cloth that had been used for bleaching the loos. Pick your battles. It could be far worse.

SBTLove · 01/09/2020 15:57

Posting a pic is irrelevant, the OP need to step back, her DD is 14 not 4. She’s finding out what she likes and no doubt what provokes a response.
MN has some nasty controlling parents who seem to want their kids to remain dependent and under the thumb, suggesting bleach, ripping, losing the t-shirt is just nasty.

lyralalala · 01/09/2020 15:57

The number of people who would destroy their child's belonging, that they paid for, just because they don't like it is shocking.

WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo · 01/09/2020 16:05

I bought this as a (( requested)) gift a while ago.

It's not to my taste but tbh I'm not wearing it and let's face it people don't really look at images on complete strangers clothes.

to  not want DD(14) to have this T-Shirt
toomanyspiderplants · 01/09/2020 16:05

Ok I wouldn't like it either. .But I maybe would let her wear it (hard to judge without seeing it). pick your fights carefully.
don't "accidentally " destroy it..she's not an idiot.

GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou · 01/09/2020 16:05

Yes, I was surprised at the posters suggesting OP destroy the T-shirt.

Hopefully it's just silly online bravado.

LagunaBubbles · 01/09/2020 16:10

You’re her mum, she’s 14. Ultimately you have the final say in what she wears

Seriously? She's 14, not 4. I will never ceased to be amazed by the level of control some people here on MN want to retain over their children as they grow up.

Minesril · 01/09/2020 16:11

I used to wear a Slipknot 'people=shit' T-shirt, dog collar and embarrassing amount of black eyeliner. Ah fun times.

GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou · 01/09/2020 16:14

There is no such thing as an embarrassing amount of eyeliner.

If you can still blink it's not enough. :o

MsEllany · 01/09/2020 16:16

I don’t think the shop assistant did anything wrong. It’s one thing when a ten year old buys big gold hoop earrings and then her mum makes her return them (happened once when I worked in a Accessorize) it’s quite another when a teenager buys a t-shirt and her mother is insisting on the return of it.

I think you’ve had a pasting here OP. I wouldn’t go down any of the ‘ruin it’ options as then you’re just teaching her that even as she grows up, you’ll sabotage any instance of individuality or rebellion. I think it would bode you well to apologise for your reaction in the shop but tell her the attitude set you off.

AnnaSW1 · 01/09/2020 16:16

It's not a battle I would have chosen. I'd have let that one go

notacooldad · 01/09/2020 16:20

I wouldn't have made a fuss and then put it in the wash with a cloth that had been used for bleaching the loos
What a nasty spiteful thing to do against your daughter. That's just disgusting.

MJMG2015 · 01/09/2020 16:23

@IntermittentParps

I don't understand why posters are furious with the shop assistant. It's not their job to mediate in family disputes, they are there to sell clothes

She DID try to 'mediate' though (or interfere). She gave her personal opinion on it, and went over the OP to ask her DD if she really wanted to return it. She was out of order.

The DD, bought it, not the OP. DD was the customer, so obviously the sales Assistant was going to ask the actual customer.

@SqueamishMum

Jesus wept. Cartoon blood from an arm in a blender? THIS is what you're objecting to?

Given your DD knew you wouldn't like it, I'm going to assume you're FAR less laid back than you're claiming to be!

It's not even like the cartoon was a violent act (like murder or rape). Just some cartoon doofus with his arm in a blender.

Not to my taste, but hey ho.

Your DD was daft to point out to you that you wouldn't like it & to flaunt having worn it 'and everyone else likes it' but she's 14 with a lot to learn!

But seriously if you're going to throw such a stop about an inoffensive cartoon T-shirt you've got a hard few years ahead if you. Or a DD that moves to her Dad's

LagunaBubbles · 01/09/2020 16:25

OP I do think you were being a bit controlling but I think you've taken everything people have said on board so don't be too hard on yourself.

CleverCatty · 01/09/2020 16:27

@notacooldad

I wouldn't have made a fuss and then put it in the wash with a cloth that had been used for bleaching the loos What a nasty spiteful thing to do against your daughter. That's just disgusting.
exactly.

If I were the daughter of cjpark and she did that to my t-shirt (I'd know it wasn't an 'accident' I'd just ensure I did the same back to one of her favourite items of clothing.

CleverCatty · 01/09/2020 16:30

@NoemiaElara

When I was 14 I was wearing FCUK t-shirts with very suggestible writing across my boobs. I was also hanging out with my 17 year old boyfriend drinking lambrini in the park every weekend. I think you've got off lightly with a gory t shirt!
we all wore those t-shirts - in fact I recall at 24 (so some years older...!) I had a suggestible and very low More magazine tshirt which was designed by Antoni and Alison, I took more pleasure in wearing it out and about and shocking my DM's (despite the fact I was an adult, living away from home in a rented flat etc!) when I visited her than I should've done...
WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo · 01/09/2020 16:46

clever I used to have a fairly innocuous FCUK top. It was baby blue...... Lovely with just the FCUK logo on the front and little stick figures in sex positions on the back. Blush

How I loved that tshirt, I used to wear it in my mums presence with a shirt over the top which would be swiftly removed when I was out with my own clan 😂😂😂

HexyAndIKnowIt · 01/09/2020 16:53

@notacooldad

I wouldn't have made a fuss and then put it in the wash with a cloth that had been used for bleaching the loos What a nasty spiteful thing to do against your daughter. That's just disgusting.
It was that kind of thing that led to me walking out at 17 and not speaking to my Mother for a few years.

On the plus side, it was a masterclass in how not to raise my own teens.

notacooldad · 01/09/2020 17:07

It was that kind of thing that led to me walking out at 17 and not speaking to my Mother for a few years
On the plus side, it was a masterclass in how not to raise my own teens
Exactly right HexyandIknowit

I think it is fair to say that I took a calmer, less judgemental approach to parenting than my mum did ( and still does, she still goes on about my weight, how I talk to my lads, how much I spend on them - too much apparently!)
I quickly learned to pick my battles with teenage lads. That's not to say I didn't have battles, of course I did!

My mum is astonished that as young adults me and DH get invited out by them, get regular phone calls, send each other daft memes and have a nice time together.

I know OP has come back and said that she thinks she may have gone over the top. In her shoes about this issue I would be backing down to DD and saying that I was a bit OTT about the shirt. I would also add that she was a bit out of order as well!

englishrosie · 01/09/2020 17:10

This thread has given me a really good laugh thank you!

NewAndImprovedNorks · 01/09/2020 17:11

This was definitely a moment for a “That’s nice dear” and a complete downplay.

She is a young woman with her own money and her own taste and her own body.

Thank goodness we didn’t all dress to please our mothers, or I would be currently wearing drip dry beige crimplene with a paisley pussycat bow blouse