To think going on holiday at the moment is selfish and unnecessary

[OverTheRainbow88]

I think it’s totally unnecessary and selfish for people to go abroad on holiday at the moment. I’m not talking about people that need to go abroad for other reasons, such as ,work or to see ill relatives etc. I think getting our children back to school trumps a holiday.
However, lots of family and friends are going away abroad for holidays, do others agree with me or am I being unreasonable?

Well my dear friend watched a large number of people on her ward die in May and June. I think she had PTSD, but certainly seemed a lot better when she came back from her camping holiday in France; slightly early because of the quarantine.
Still I’ll be sure to tell her what you think. Can’t be arsed voting though!

Has Boris said if X amount of people go on holiday your child can't go back to school? I don't recall seeing that announcement.

Personally I wouldn’t go abroad at the moment. I haven’t even gone away in the U.K. yet but will be at half term

But I fully get why after the year we have had people need to get away for a bit. As long as they are sensible and follow any quarantine rules then I hope they have a wonderful time and come back relaxed

I agree. I also know people who have not been quarantining on return.

@BillywilliamV
I guess that situation doesn’t count as a normal holiday because they fancy some sun, but it was needed for mental health.

@Faraway20
No they haven’t, but it increases the risk, one major reason we have had so many more deaths is because we didn’t close our airports as fast as other countries

"I guess that situation doesn’t count as a normal holiday because they fancy some sun, but it was needed for mental health."

Isn't the reason anyone goes on holiday to improve their mental health?

In terms of reducing transmission/spread of the virus, staying at home is better, so in that sense you are right but I think a lot of people consider their holiday to be important.

How would me going on holiday affect your children going back to school?

one major reason we have had so many more deaths is because we didn’t close our airports as fast as other countries not true. Italy closed its borders to flights from China and it didn't seem to affect their case numbers (though who knows, maybe their case and death rates would have been even greater).

I don't think people are selfish to want to go on holiday but I do think they're stupid if they then whine about quarantine. You know it's a risk, so if you can't do 2 weeks isolation once you get home, don't go.

So your making yourself decider of who deserves a holiday and who doesn’t? Whose mental health is important and whose isn’t?

Who made you gatekeeper of who is allowed to go on holiday?

Just abroad? Because plenty of people leaving the UK for holidays are going to countries with a lower instance of the disease than us. They're not all using airports to do it either.

There are so many countries whose rate is lower, far lower in fact, than ours. If anything we are the threat to countries like Turkey, islands in Greece, the Balearics etc. Your post seems only bothered about our country and our schools. We are probably minimising our risk more and better off going on holiday and spending two weeks there than in Manchester. If it’s unfair on anyone it’s the countries that we’re going to, not ours.

@BillywilliamV

Well my dear friend watched a large number of people on her ward die in May and June. I think she had PTSD, but certainly seemed a lot better when she came back from her camping holiday in France; slightly early because of the quarantine. Still I’ll be sure to tell her what you think. Can’t be arsed voting though!

Because there’s no camp sites in the U.K..

As a Covid nurse who also watched lots of people die, going abroad at a time when we are trying to stop a pandemic is ludicrous and selfish.

Whilst I get that some frontline staff may need a break, I don't think that going abroad during a pandemic is the most sensible option for anyone.

More people going on holiday increases the chances of the virus spreading. Cases rising will affect decisions on schools opening.

OP how about people who have a holiday without going abroad?

And to clarify, I think it’s ludicrous and selfish on both countries, how dare we think it’s ok to potentially spread the infection and impact other countries just because they have warmer weather.
If international travel had been banned or very strictly regulated earlier on and for longer, we may have had more handle on this pandemic.

Holidays are fine - even abroad, as long as you time them to allow for 2 weeks quarantine (if required, now or brought in whilst you're away).

People who WFH, no kids, are going to get some great deals this autumn.

I am of course assuming that potential holiday makers - just like everyone else - is properly maintaining hand hygiene, social distancing io at least 2m (unless necessary and mitigated) etc. Because any person could be infectious

@ChangeThePassword

How would me going on holiday affect your children going back to school?

The level of community transmission affects schools, and the amount of travel, socialising, commuting etc all affect levels of community transmission.

Overall ten million holidays or five million holidays or one million holidays would have a different impact.

Meh. I have just been on holiday abroad to an area with low Covid and it has been delightful and just what I needed.

Agree that anyone who has booked to travel abroad since March should be prepared for short notice cancellations and quarantine, though.

@fairynick

There are so many countries whose rate is lower, far lower in fact, than ours. If anything we are the threat to countries like Turkey, islands in Greece, the Balearics etc. Your post seems only bothered about our country and our schools. We are probably minimising our risk more and better off going on holiday and spending two weeks there than in Manchester. If it’s unfair on anyone it’s the countries that we’re going to, not ours.

Definitely this.

What about the economies of countries who demand on tourism?

If DH wasn’t extremely clinically vulnerable then we would be going holiday.

It’s an individuals decision- I would not go abroad but have taken a long UK holiday travelling around. Friends who are teachers have gone to France and will miss the start of the school year because of quarantine but they justified it as they were really stressed apparently.
Is that worse than us going around the U.K. ??
Some people would say yes, some would say no.

I've just got back from a holiday, 2 weeks of much needed downtime. It was very quiet on the beaches, lots of space, far safer than the beaches of devon/Cornwall etc that have been packed so tightly that police are turning people away......
Now we are home, quarantining for 2 weeks before returning to work/school. Are the people who've nose to nose with strangers on UK beaches quarantining?
I don't think I've been selfish, put anybody in danger etc. I'm not going to stay cowed in my home for the next however many years, this thing is here to stay.

Well when are you “allowing” people to have a holiday again?

Going abroad is likely to be safer than visiting the crowded holiday locations in this country. Everyone will make their own decisions as to what is safe or not.