AIBU to wonder what conspiracy theories you think may hold some weight?

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Generally speaking I hate conspiracy theories, but is there anything out there that’s passed off as a conspiracy theory that you think holds some weight? I personally have some questions about the assassination of JFK.

How do Diana conspiracy theorists get around the fact that she died in a perfectly survivable accident (had she worn a seatbelt) in a country where anyone with a conceivable interest in her death couldn't control the police, medical authorities and the media?

I don’t believe the moon landings happened.

There were some things about 9/11 that didn’t make sense.

I think Diana’s death was an accident, I think David Kelley was murdered.

Jeffrey Epstein, also a lot of the BBC Paedophile stuff especially around the time the Peadophile Info Exchange etc theres no way there isn't more lurking to be discovered, tip of the iceberg.

I sometimes wonder if conspiracy theories are themselves created by those in power to distract from more mundane events and truths.

The Epstein case is mind boggling, especially as nobody knows how he accumulated all that wealth. Blackmailing doesn't seem to make sense since he already had all the houses/planes before he met the most powerful people who would have been worth blackmailing.

Britney Spears is a sad one as it involves a lot of MH issues that should rightly be kept private. However without the knowledge, nobody knows whether the conservatorship is legitimate or if she really is being held captive.

Elisa Lam's story is heartbreaking but after going down a rabbit hole of all possible resources, it seems most likely to have been a suicide. I don't believe the part that it was used as a cover-up for an outbreak of tuberculosis on the nearby Skid Row (the testing method is called ELISA but the connection doesn't make any sense as it draws more attention to the thing that they want to hide).

I also find it plausible that covid did not start in the wet markets but was a virus taken from bats from Yunnan. There's a report of 6 miners who became sick with identical symptoms in 2013, three of whom tragically died. Samples were stored and studied in the Institute of Virology and it simply needs to infect someone working at the lab in order to have "escaped".

JFK. In the book, JFK The Second Plot Matthew Smith puts forward the theory that Oswald was not meant to have got arrested that day, he was meant to have been spirited away to Cuba. Officer Tippitt was meant to be driving him to an airfield. But that went badly wrong when Tippitt was shot before he could do so. A witness to this shooting gave a description of the shooter that did not match Oswald at all.

Witney Houston’s death. I saw the video of her coming on that chat show days before her death, hair all wet and she was so anxious, and handed that note to a woman. I wonder if there’d been an attempted murder on her just days before it actually happened and she was trying to warn someone.

Diana died because she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt. The one person in that car who was wearing one survived. No conspiracy.

It's remarkably difficult to strangle yourself using nothing but your own bodyweight slightly bent forwards.

But people do commit suicide like that all the time.

I don’t believe the Jill Dando Serbian connection. I don’t think it was a professional hit.

@Pobblebonk

How do Diana conspiracy theorists get around the fact that she died in a perfectly survivable accident (had she worn a seatbelt) in a country where anyone with a conceivable interest in her death couldn't control the police, medical authorities and the media?

I think all they needed to do to quell the Diana conspiracy was release the report on the Mercedes showing the seatbelts in the back were working

The combination of the fact she apparently always wore her seatbelt and the Mercedes being a repaired write-off just fuelled the "the seatbelts didn't work" theory.

I actually think if they'd just followed proper protocols (the embalming, no inquest etc) there would be zero mystery over a woman dying in a high speed car crash whilst not wearing a seatbelt.

Rather than conspiracy I think they were just caught out by the media storm and people made mistakes that were blown up

David Kelly obviously did kill himself imo.
His mother died while he was at uni, he believed by suicide. He was in deep shit and felt betrayed by the BBC and bullied by the government. He was forced to be on TV being interrogated by people with no expertise in his field including MPs one of whom called him "chaff", during the course of which he spoke so quietly that the fans had to be turned off. Many highly specialised experts in obscure fields are deeply inhibited people with a strong sense of right and wrong. I think he obviously killed himself; it made the government look dreadful and took him out of a situation he couldn't bear. His belief that his mother had killed herself would have, psychologically speaking, opened up the possibility in him - there is, I believe, evidence that those where an immediate family member has died by suicide are themselves at greater risk of it.

Diana's death was orchestrated by the royal family.

We didnt go to the moon.

I’m not sure Oswald did shoot at the President. He was seen on the first floor of the School Book Depository within an extremely short time after the shooting which was from the sixth floor - a minute or so - but was according to the witness who spoke to him not out of breath at all even though he would have had to run down six flights of stairs.

Yes it's true that the suicide of a family member legitimises it as an option.

But I still don't believe Dr Kelly killed himself.

I'm not sure many conspiracies mentioned here would actually surprise me if it turned out they were true.

I know for a fact that vulnerable and looked after children in care homes were regularly abused by powerful figures. I've worked with victims who have talked about 'parties' in the care homes where this happened, and I absolutely believe them.

I bloody LOVE a conspiracy theory but I don't Believe in any of them. Occam's Razor and all that.

However there is definitely some weird shit going down at Denver Airport.

Elisa Lam probably died by accident as she was having a manic episode rather than by suicide, though I agree there’s no evidence of anything strange or dodgy about her death. (Just very sad.)

Russian interference caused British people to vote for Brexit.

Then it would destabilise the economy and massively weaken us as a nation.

It’s all coming true. We are still in the middle of that conspiracy.

Trump-Russia, possibly.

Epstein, maybe. Very slightly maybe.

Trump-Russia seems plausible, simply because he’s so clearly and obviously pro-Putin, and his actions generally favour Russia. If nothing else, it’s distinctly odd.

The Jill Dando theory sounds plausible to me. At the time David Kelly died, it seemed immediately odd. I'm not sold on any of the bigger ones.

An interesting one I heard recently, is that the CIA wrote The Winds of Change by The Scorpions as a piece of propaganda.

I think Elisa Lam was having a manic episode but it doesn't explain the fact the lid was put back on the water tank she was in. How? She was very slight and it took two men to open them.

@SingleHandSue

I don’t believe the moon landings happened and I believe Hitler escaped to Argentina.

Oh, you're one of those that believe in the moon?

@Pelleas

Not exactly a conspiracy theory but I would be interested to know the real story behind the Queen's intervention in Paul Burrell's trial.

I’ve recently wondered if that was related to the stuff we now know about Prince Andrew?

Jill Dando’s death was weird. Why would anyone want to kill her? She was so inoffensive, and it was obviously a professional hit. I can’t believe that Barry George was ever found guilty of murdering her.

Madeleine McCann! I know that isn't popular on here, but there are too many smelly rats in that story!

Jeffrey Epstein, the moon landings and Prince Andrew can sweat

I ended up down a late night rabbit hole googling things as a result of this thread. I couldn't sleep anyway. Kurt Cobain was interesting to read about. Dd1 lives the xfiles and is the perfect age for conspiracy theories.

@pcmcgregor what's that about Huntley?