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List of rules making me feel on edge

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Ziggyzaggy · 24/08/2020 15:58

My daughter has been home since march and will be going into year one next week. The school said that they will be in a class bubble before the summer holidays. They made it clear that the kids would just be mixing in that one class. I was fine with it and because she's in with her best friend I know she'll be happy. We've just had a long email from the headmaster with all the new rules and guidance and plans in place. Basically the kids will be going through the fire exits into the classroom. They won't be allowed to use the corridors. They have decided that despite the government saying they don't need to social distance in bubbles that they are going to make them social distance anyway. they've decided that children can't touch each other in the bubble and no-contact games will be allowed. They won't be allowed to sit on the carpet and the children will be at desks facing forward. They will only be allowed to the toilet in a bubble slot and they are banned from sharing food. They have to clean up their own cuts and scrapes but if they can't you will be called to collect your child and clean them up yourself at home. the school will report your child to the health authority if they shows signs of being unwell but will inform you of this. They are only allowed to walk home with the adult and not with their class friends. They want us there for 9 a.m. in the morning. they don't want us to be early and they don't want us to go near other parents as we queue down the street. they are encouraging kids to go through the gate by themselves and say goodbye to their parents at the gate. the teachers are allowed to help children with work but have to stay at least 1 metres away and can't help them for no more than 15 minutes. my daughter has not been at school for months and barely got into reception before lockdown. I'm well aware that the schools will be supporting the kids as well and trying to teach these new rules in a fun way but I feel like my daughter will mess up every day. She's used to holding hands with her friends and walking with her best friend to school. They all used to share snacks after school in the playground. they are used to sitting together and working together as a team. suddenly now they're not even going to be allowed to sit and do activities together. I know it might sound worse on paper but I just think for a 5-year old this experience of school is really negative. They won't be having assemblies or anything at the moment and they've said for the first two terms that theres no school meals. It just sounds really tough for a five-year-old. I hope the school make it fun and this doesn't put my daughter of going to school. It upsets me to think of her being told off for going near friends. they've also said that people can't pick your child up from a different bubble. that's going to make it hard for some parents as they used to share the school runs with friends last year. I'm presuming that my family can collect my child if there's ever a reason I can't go go but it just all seems very strict at the moment. I understand but it's confusing for them to suddenly not be allowed to do anything they used to. Not to mention having to walk in alone from the gates after a long break to a new class and teacher.

It looks like these plans are remaining until at least January. Kids will be full of anxiety being expected to be so mature so young.

OP posts:
LouiseNW · 26/08/2020 10:08

If this is her first year, she won’t know any different?

DappledThings · 26/08/2020 10:13

[quote LadyPenelope68]@DappledThings
So is it a case then that you would like it just to go back to pre covid school? Risk to adults of transmission from children is minimal
Can I ask what you do for a job?[/quote]
You can.

Not that I want to be too specific but within HE on the management side. Currently WFH long-term. I obviously can't say for certain but I am pretty sure i would feel the same where I a primary school teacher.

Certainly DC have been at a nursery throughout which has limited SD measures to parents waiting in the lobby at pick up and drop off rather than in the actual rooms. Children have not been asked to distance from each other at all nor staff from them. I can't imagine staff can very well distance from each other either but they may be attempting.

Aragog · 26/08/2020 10:17

Do you think vulnerable people have no contact with schools and schoolchildren?*

Several teachers, TAs, other school staff and pupils to begin with, especially in the clinically vulnerable (!not shielded) group.

LadyPenelope68 · 26/08/2020 10:58

@DappledThings
Not that I want to be too specific but within HE on the management side. Currently WFH long-term. I obviously can't say for certain but I am pretty sure i would feel the same where I a primary school teacher.
So you’re in management in HE where you’ll be socially distancing and wearing a mask (as per latest Government advice). I’m a Primary Teacher and being expected to be in close contact with children and not wearing a mask. I think there should be social distancing, why should teachers be the only profession in the UK where they’re expected not to socially distance without PPE of some form. Seems like it’s one set of guidance for general public and one set for health professionals /care staff, all to protect them, then stuff Primary teachers, you’ve just got to do as normal.

DappledThings · 26/08/2020 11:07

So you’re in management in HE where you’ll be socially distancing and wearing a mask (as per latest Government advice).

Nope. As I said currently WFH long-term. May have some face-to-face contact with students in the next couple of months so might be required to wear a mask then. I won't want to but will comply without complaint if it is required. But they are other adults. Not children.

Aragog · 26/08/2020 11:15

Have you been in a secondary school recently? Some of those are adults too. And do you really think there's a big different between a 16y and an 18y likelihood of transmitting a virus?

Until we've been in school for some time we don't really know what the transmission from children will be, let's face it. We can't really rely on studies dine before there summer as they were a totally different set up - small classes of up to 15, restricted classroom access, separated tables, no parents in school, nothing allowed to be brought from home or taken out of school except a lunch box, etc. That's not what it will be like in a school next week.

DappledThings · 26/08/2020 11:20

Have you been in a secondary school recently? Some of those are adults too. And do you really think there's a big different between a 16y and an 18y likelihood of transmitting a virus?

I said in a PP I was talking about Infant schools only.

Aragog · 26/08/2020 12:00

I work in an infant school. Pre COVID days I would come into contact with many adults and teens every day.

Until schools have been open a while we don't really know what the transmission will be like. Children do pass on most other viruses and bugs, we know that. All our uk studies were done when schools were only open under strict guidelines, with restricted access and half size classes at most.

Until then, the rules the OP has listed, in the whole make sense.

EthelredtheAwaysready · 26/08/2020 12:08

@Ziggyzaggy my goodness, you are massively overreacting. I needed a lie down in a dark room after reading your post!

Your daughter will be fine, the only potential impact from this on her is your clear anxiety transferring across.

Schools need to do what they feel they need to do and as we as parents need to do our bit to support them. Your daughter will likely not remember how it was the last time she was there. As for this year she will never know any different so this will be her normal, her new normal.

As your daughter continues through her sch journey there will always be "rules". She will be expected to adhere and engage with them along with everyone else. These current "new rules " are there to protect the many not to please a few.

With respect OP you need to calm down and encourage your child and focus on the positives of going back to sch. I wonder how much of this is about your daughter and how much your own issue?

EthelredtheAwaysready · 26/08/2020 14:12

@Notonthestairs "Ziggyzaggy did you post another thread yesterday about your mental health and feeling anxious generally as a result of lockdown? You seem to have scrolled past posts from school staff and those that try to reassure you. "

@not, i have noticed this. Poster gets angsty with other posters who challenge or know what they are talking about, agrees only with those who agree with them, then leaves thread not to return when does not like responses and/or is challenged.

Starts same thread under new name...expecting advice to be different. Repeat cycle...

I hope poster reaches out for help in real world , for her DD sake.

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