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Is my mum being unfair giving cash for university for grandchildren but not the others

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Valerievalerie · 24/08/2020 07:08

My parents have 9 GC , half of them very high achievers, we are talking all A* , oxbridge standard

They all started going to uni last year . Mum told me that she had given a sum to my nephew as it is nice to have some money when away . First of all it is important to say that I’m absolutely not the type of person who keeps a tally and I indeed agree that it’s lovely to have a bit extra .

Now I have 3 daughters , all similar ages to my sisters children who have not gone to university, there are various mild SEN , and they just aren’t academic, The most academic out the 3 still failed half their GCSEs and has now told me that they don’t want to go to college or Uni .

Sisters second child is about to go off in September and my other sister also has a son going next year , so mum is telling me that they will need to give them the same .
Now because my oldest DD was 21 recently they were given £500 from my parents
This was of course very generous and she said she will give the same to my middle DD who is 21 next year
My youngest DD would have been going to college next year or the year after . Now I think it would be unfair to give my youngest £1000 like the cousins just for going to Uni . I feel like it is penalising for not being clever enough to go on to study . This may not happen anyway as she says she might just get a job instead.

I said to my mum last night that I didn’t think she should treat the grandchildren differently

She was quite shocked and said it was because when you go away from home you need all the help that you can get .

Now I was the one growing up who was not academic and I scraped 2 GCSEs , much like my children and my sisters were very clever and it has brought back all my feelings of inadequacy.
Ive always been envious of people who are clever , as brains are much admired in my family, and I was keenly aware of this growing up .
I know I’m thick and it’s awful seeing my children suffer at school like I did , and watch every one else in the family recipe I g endless A graded .

I was loved just the same but i have always felt like I was a disappointment.

Now I’m going through the same with my children and it stings . My middle daughter works very hard in a minimum wage job , does she deserve less because she didn’t go to Uni ?

I said to mum on the phone that it wasn’t about the money , and it really isn’t . It’s about feeling that brains are rewarded and another reminder about my feelings as a failure.
She said that it was about the money . It really isn’t . We are not short of money .

My mum has always been generous and has given all of us money for various things .
She really doesn’t play favourites so is baffled why I feel like this .

It is really hard watching other teens happily off to Uni , my oldest especially feels down about all her friends going wishing she could.

I have never discussed how I feel with my DC btw, Ive always felt embarrassed about how I feel and would never openly admit it , I try hard to play to their strengths and give them confidence.

So not sure what I should say to mum .
I think that I just want her to acknowledge how I felt second best and how hard it is growing up in a family of geniuses when you aren’t .
I might seem like I’m being really childish and grabby but I honestly am not.

My mum is always so proud of their academic abilities, my daughter was finally awarded a pass for GCSE English this week with the grades fiasco and had failed it twice already . I didn’t even tell mum as sisters daughter was given all As for A level a couple of weeks ago .
I can’t bring myself to tell her about our grade 4 pass .

OP posts:
Blackbear19 · 24/08/2020 20:41

@AllsortsofAwkward

Its not comparable, my parents helped me and dbro2 when we went to uni but dbro didn't go to uni he might have had help in other ways. My parents don't tally who they give what to. Shes been given money to spend on stuff she wants not food and rent.
How do you know that its for stuff she wants not food and rent? Students need to kit out their room, duvet, pillows, duvet cover, sheets, plates, forks, pot to cook in, plus the books they need. Bit more to it than just food and rent.

I'd assume the GC who are still at home use the bedding they already have. You'd also assume the parents don't have any additional housing costs for young adult children at home.

mrpumblechook · 24/08/2020 23:44

Few parents will be able to fund children through Uni without student loans, so if Grannys money goes to reduce the debt that DGC get into that has to be viewed as essential help.

Why would it be "essential" to help help reduce the debt? They could be earning a very good salary once graduated and have a lot more money than someone on a low wage whether or not they are paying off a loan.

mrpumblechook · 24/08/2020 23:48

I'd assume the GC who are still at home use the bedding they already have. You'd also assume the parents don't have any additional housing costs for young adult children at home.

DD uses the bedding she already had and many other things. Why assume they have to buy more? There is no suggestion that the grandparents was giving money because their parents can't give them enough to live on.

Hannahmates · 25/08/2020 04:21

YAbU. Of course people going to college would need more money. They have no income, spend most of their time studying and have more expenses in general.

Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse · 25/08/2020 04:37

YABU. Whilst I understand you feeling this way, the children who are going off to university do need the extra funds currently, as university is expensive. However you never know you’re children or you may end up with more inheritance later down the line as the others will have better opportunities to earn enough to support themselves.

nachthexe · 25/08/2020 04:38

Hmm. I’m another one that is supporting my eldest DC financially to attend university. I’m also charging my second DC rent to live at home as he is working, with the proviso that all three DC are treated the same by circumstance. So if he goes to uni, I will help pay, and dc3 same. If dc3 works, (she has cerebral palsy) she’ll get charged rent too. If she goes to uni, I’ll help to fund it.
We do equity by need, not by some notion that everyone must get exactly the same. ‘Fairness’ is subjective. (In truth, dc3 has had the most money spent on her by far, because of the need for adaptive bikes etc. I didn’t tot it up and make up the difference for the other dc whose bikes were a fraction of the cost).

FixItUpChappie · 25/08/2020 05:28

Your children deserve the same amount whether they need it or not

I find this a very entitled POV....like being owed someone else's money. Family members have different needs and everything doesn't have to be equal all the time. Anything given is a gift. Any gift given to others is no one else's business.

snitzelvoncrumb · 25/08/2020 06:04

I think the way she has gone about it is mean. She could have quietly given the kids parents the money to put towards expenses, hopefully it doesn't cause a rift between the cousins.

Yeahnahmum · 25/08/2020 06:08

Nah not unfair. She supports her gc financially with money towards uni.
Your kids arent going YET still getting money for something amazing that they can decide on themselves. 500 pounds is crazy good money for a kid id say.

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 25/08/2020 06:15

Her money to do as she likes with

In her position I'd be considering whether to be as generous with birthday gifts if the parent came to me with "not fair" whinges.

Tumbleweed101 · 25/08/2020 06:42

This is about your feelings, not about the money and it’s probably something you need to work through and understand.

As a side note - some of the most successful people I know in both money and life balance are people who didn’t do great academically at school but found what they were good at and moved on that path.

mrpumblechook · 25/08/2020 08:43

@EveryDayIsADuvetDay

Her money to do as she likes with

In her position I'd be considering whether to be as generous with birthday gifts if the parent came to me with "not fair" whinges.

So if an adult child felt that you treated their children less favourably than their cousins and told you this you would respond by treating the grandchildren even less favourably. Not a smart move...
Anothermother3 · 25/08/2020 09:27

I think that most parents fail on some level and you definitely weren’t well supported but I think awareness of how to give support has increased massively. I was strong academically at most things but I would have been much stronger with a bit of maths support I just don’t think it would have crossed my mothers mind as I wasn’t in trouble and was generally doing well. If my kids have an area where they need support I’ll make sure they have it. Your mum could have met your needs better but she’s not being unfair with the grandkids.

Lardlizard · 25/08/2020 09:35

I think it’s thoughtless and unfair of your mum

CherryPavlova · 25/08/2020 09:36

I think you are being unreasonable but understand that her overt support of academic achievement might feel unfair.

We paid for our girls through university but our son chose another route. He didn’t need the money, so didn’t get it. It was about meeting needs and loving them all the same but differently. He’s cost us enough money over the years in different ways.

We always rewarded achievement.

ancientgran · 25/08/2020 09:44

I know someone who had a major falling out with her husband as he wanted DD at uni to get support and DD who was working would get nothing. They couldn't agree so in the end mum won and both got the same. Bit awkward several years later when the DD who didn't go to uni decided to go and expected support as sister had support. Parents were now retired and couldn't hand out that sort of money to both girls. It caused alot of upset between parents and the DD who was now going to uni. The other daughter kept well out of it.

mrpumblechook · 25/08/2020 09:55

@ancientgran

I know someone who had a major falling out with her husband as he wanted DD at uni to get support and DD who was working would get nothing. They couldn't agree so in the end mum won and both got the same. Bit awkward several years later when the DD who didn't go to uni decided to go and expected support as sister had support. Parents were now retired and couldn't hand out that sort of money to both girls. It caused alot of upset between parents and the DD who was now going to uni. The other daughter kept well out of it.
The DD wouldn't need support from her parents if it was several years later. She would be assessed for a loan/grant based on her own or partners income.
Whatisthisfuckery · 25/08/2020 10:01

I agree with you OP. If your DM is giving her other GC money then they go to uni then she should do the same for all the GC, maybe when they hit another milestone. I would feel pissed off if it was my DC missing out as well.

You don’t sound thick in the slightest BTW, far from it.

Oliversmumsarmy · 25/08/2020 10:03

There is a lot of bias towards academically bright children.

If a child doesn’t go to university or doesn’t get into university then not only do they not get financial support but the one who went to university is supposed to earn more in life anyway.

Seems like those that are supporting the ones who go over those that don’t are making the gap between their children even wider.

Lardlizard · 25/08/2020 10:23

Reward the hard work not the results

Lardlizard · 25/08/2020 10:24

Oliver’s mummy exactly

Blackbear19 · 25/08/2020 11:20

@Oliversmumsarmy

There is a lot of bias towards academically bright children.

If a child doesn’t go to university or doesn’t get into university then not only do they not get financial support but the one who went to university is supposed to earn more in life anyway.

Seems like those that are supporting the ones who go over those that don’t are making the gap between their children even wider.

Sorry I don't agree that children who don't go to Uni don't get financial support.

In my experience children who don't go to Uni, usually end up getting supported by staying at home, paying minimum dig money into the house. Use of a family car. Enabling them to use their remaining income wisely. And they don't get landed with a shed load of student debt.

Dishwashersaurous · 25/08/2020 11:43

It’s important to recognise that this is entirely about your feelings about feeling ‘less’ in your mother’s eyes because you are not academic.

Iggly · 25/08/2020 11:43

We always rewarded achievement

You mean academic achievement? If you have only given to your university attending dcs.... you talk about your son “costing” you, but your daughters being supported?

That’s quite telling.

If one of my children decided to go to uni and the other doesn’t, yes I’ll provide financial support but I’ll also provide financial support if the other doesn’t go.

Coronawireless · 25/08/2020 13:35

@Dishwashersaurous

It’s important to recognise that this is entirely about your feelings about feeling ‘less’ in your mother’s eyes because you are not academic.
OP does recognise this. That’s her point. She said herself it’s not about the money.
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