AIBU to wonder what 'very Catholic' means?

[Graunaile2017]

I read a comment on another thread describing parents as 'very Catholic '. I'm not from the UK so sometimes miss the nuance or underlying cultural meaning of comments like this, but it seems to imply negativity. What exactly constitutes 'very Catholic' and why is it bad?

@fascinated

The only people I now with large numbers of kids are Protestants who seem to follow a kind of baptist type church with very traditional views about women.

Are you in America?

Sorry, that was to @PurrBox. But I was probably too flippant. Sorry about your experience. That certainly would be frowned upon by me and most if not all RC friends. That’s not on, even just on regular moral grounds. I don’t think RC has a monopoly on disapproving of affairs.

No, UK, and I see that @CaptainCorellisPangolin seems to have had similar experiences.

@RealLifeHotWaterBottle

Sayitagainwhydontyou its unlikely you would, very few Catholics of any persuasion would describe them selves as "very catholic". I'll make sure the multiple priests I know - cousins, uncles and friends - are all aware they, especially the gay ones, just aren't catholic enough in your limited yet arrogant mind. Because despite dispensation from the Vatican, your own narrow beliefs dont fit in to what they can be.

But i was specifically talking about people who do describe themselves as "very Catholic" - it's right there in the title! And the OP! And every one of my comments!

Sorry managed to miss CaptainCorellisPangolin's post who said in their last paragraph, what I wanted to say, but far more eloquently.

Sayitagainwhydontyou theres nothing about self description in either the title or the OP - just what it means when describing parents as such.

Going back to the OP, if it is parents of adolescents who are said to be “very Catholic” it might just be that they don’t want boyfriends sleeping over in later teenage years, or insist on everyone trooping off to Mass every Sunday and Holidays of Ob or similar.

@chomalungma have a look at the East Sussex bonfire societies.

Seems like the nuns didn't teach you how to read. Weird that.

@RealLifeHotWaterBottle

Sayitagainwhydontyou its unlikely you would, very few Catholics of any persuasion would describe them selves as "very catholic". I'll make sure the multiple priests I know - cousins, uncles and friends - are all aware they, especially the gay ones, just aren't catholic enough in your limited yet arrogant mind. Because despite dispensation from the Vatican, your own narrow beliefs dont fit in to what they can be.

If someone is 'very Catholic' and is ok with gay rights, gender equality because the Pope is onside with that, and the Pope dies and a new Pope is against that, are those people still very Catholic?

Pro -life no exceptions, going to mass at least once a week, regarding protestants as atheists, not believing gay people should be able to get married, thinking divorcees didn't ''try hard enough'' (to endure the misery).

@chomalungma

Try “orange parades”

The only form of prejudice left that is openly acceptable in the UK is anti-Catholicism. The first pages of replies shows that only too clearly.

@jolokoy I recognise what you're writing about, I've been on the sharp end of anti-Catholic sentiment, more specifically anti-Irish Catholic.

I wonder if it is linked to the anti ginger hair bullying that is tolerated.

It never ceases to amaze how I ingrained and socially accepted prejudice against catholics is in this country.

And no, I also don't recognise that caricature, almost 15 century propaganda like description of any catholic I know.

FWIW, OP, I take it to mean "very religiously", especially if said by someone of that religion themselves.

Here are a few gems that are very catholic

When I tried to sneak tampons in to the supermarket trolley in 1985, I was told by my mother ''they're for married women''.

In the run up to the vote about gay marriage; My Mum thinking she was incredibly liberal ''I don't mind at all if they want to play house, but they shouldn't call it marriage ''.

The only form of prejudice left that is openly acceptable in the UK is anti-Catholicism. The first pages of replies shows that only too clearly

Have you heard of Islamophobia?
Anti-Semitism?
Same for strict C of E?
Transphobia?

TBH - anyone who is very RELIGIOUS -(just talking about the Abrahamic religions) is likely to be anti LGBT rights, anti women's rights, a strict follower of the Old Testament and really wants to impose their will on other people.

chomalungma i can certainly ask for you (likely won't have an answer til Monday for obvious reasons) but would guess yes based on my cousin who was a Vatican advisor, came out as gay and decided to resign. He did resign, but before doing so was told that his kindness, conviction and faith mattered more than his physical attractions and if he adhered to his vow of celibacy then nothing would change (this was JP for context). He left to marry, but remained on good terms so Id assume the same for future less liberal popes

@Muser314

Pro -life no exceptions, going to mass at least once a week, regarding protestants as atheists, not believing gay people should be able to get married, thinking divorcees didn't ''try hard enough'' (to endure the misery).

My cousin (well - cousin of my gran) stayed married to a man who we knew as ‘creepy uncle x’ for years - would try to put his hand up your skirt or down your top ... said she couldn’t divorce him as it was a sin .. Eventually his daughters booted him out . That was within the last ten years . We were always told as kids not to be around him alone as he was ‘rude’, but it was accepted that he would still be there, and kept quiet .

This may be a stupid question, but I don't think the Anglican Catholic church recommends any of these things either. I don't know But their official party line is not ''sex before marriage, go for it '' and morning after pill, stock 'em up. The pill? well of course. dIVORCED? CONGRATULATIONS!!

So would I be right that the main difference is all about SHAME.

@RealLifeHotWaterBottle

Seems like the nuns didn't teach you how to read. Weird that.

Yeah, it's almost like none of them had any teacher training and were, in fact, much more focused on telling us not to have sex (or think about sex) until we were married than actually educating us. Weird that.

*noting that JP was not liberal! This was the reaction of a conservative Vatican

@becauseigothigh EUGH, totally disconnected from her own sense of right from wrong. :-(

"When I tried to sneak tampons in to the supermarket trolley in 1985, I was told by my mother ''they're for married women''.

In the run up to the vote about gay marriage; My Mum thinking she was incredibly liberal ''I don't mind at all if they want to play house, but they shouldn't call it marriage ''."

Both those things could be said by devout members of other Christian denominations and also, I believe, by devout Muslims. I don't know about other major religions, but those phrases don't seem to be specifically RC to me.