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To have a friends only wedding and to have not told my parent yet!

164 replies

abstractprojection · 22/08/2020 09:17

This will be my second wedding but my OH’s first. He would like to have a Big Fat Croatian wedding complete with church, flags, flares, lots of guests, and all the family.

I don’t want this...

I still feel quite a lot of embarrassment over dragging my entire family into a church to watch me make a vow to man that I then divorced. My ex was the one who broke the vows and none of my family is anything other then happy that I left him, so that’s not an issue, but I still feel some... loss of pride I guess and the idea of doing it again makes me cringe. I want to be married to my OH but I’d like the least weddinglike wedding.

Logistically my parents are separated and hosting both separately in Croatia would mean me being stretched between the two in the run up, having to pick between the two or disappoint one of them at some point. Also due to cost they won’t be able to bring their friends and have their own table/crew like I did at my first which was a good solution. Getting married in the UK instead would be even more expensive in terms of flights and hotels as his family is much bigger then mine. My mum was also a bit of a motherofthebridezilla to the point that the chef almost walked out on my last one

There’s also a bit of I’m not sure how happy my parents will be to see me get married again. They love and approve of my OH but it was a bad divorce and they don’t want to see me hurt again. Both made me promise to not do anything ‘rash’ this summer which we spent in Croatia ie. get married. But we want to start trying for a family and though being married or not doesn’t really matter at-least not to me anymore, it does to him and I don’t think he should be punished for my ex’s crimes by being denied that. And yes I’m a romantic at heart, I do want to marry him.

Anyway the solution I’ve come up with is to have a casual friends only wedding next year Covid allowing.

I’ve found out that the tropical conservatory we had our fifth date in (and where we became official) does weddings. It is reasonably priced, and allows you to bring your own drinks and nibbles (as long as someone is assigned to stop the birds from eating them). It’s a 2 hour slot in the evening with 30 guests max, so we’d invite our friends who would also do the photography, catering and cars (I have friends I would invite anyway that can do all of these) and then have a house party afterwards at someone’s. Yes we’re mid to late 30s and still house party Blush

This is something that I’m emotionally comfortable with, will cost very little (so more of our savings can go on our future home and an amazing honeymoon), and for me will be about our future life together: our friends (who are an amazing crew) and where we live.

At first my OH was disappointed but he’s come round and is now excited about the idea (maybe the money saving aspect Grin more then anything else) but ultimately he just wants to get married and if this is what I want then so be it. He’s mentioned it to his family and they are fine, they just want to see us get married and produce grandchildren, but would like a nice family meal to celebrate when we next come back.

I haven’t raised it with my family yet which is a bit Hmm as we’re picking rings out next week! I’m thinking of just informing them sooner to the date which means we’ll have been living together for three years and they’ll have had another year to get use to the idea and for my divorce to be further in the past. But they won’t choke on their tea when they see pics on Facebook like surprise!

I mean I’m 32 years old I don’t think I need their permission or blessing, and I’m not expecting them to pay for it or any subsequent fallout if it goes tits up (I paid for my divorce myself despite offers of help). I’m sure my Mum will be disappointed to miss out on being mother of the bride again, she did enjoy it (a bit too much), but if OH’s parents are fine to go without fuss for their first born sons first wedding then I think she should be too.

AIBU to have a friends only wedding?
AIBU to have not informed my family yet?

OP posts:
LaureBerthaud · 22/08/2020 12:30

OP has disappeared... bet this is a wind up.

ZooKeeper19 · 22/08/2020 12:30

@abstractprojection absolutely go for it. I have extreme anxiety/ASD and large gatherings (watching me get married) would break me. I only had 2 best friends and my parents and siblings at my wedding and my OH had the same. There were 20 people altogether, then we had lunch in a pub and that was it. Many people in my life still don't even know we got married, both me and my DH are totally chilled about this.

You do not need a massive church wedding and informing parents is also up to you, when and how.

Most importantly have fun, enjoy your day the way YOU want it and have a blast at the house party! Your wedding, YOUR RULES!

OhCaptain · 22/08/2020 12:33

@LaureBerthaud

OP has disappeared... bet this is a wind up.
No, she hasn’t. She’s name changed.
LaureBerthaud · 22/08/2020 12:36

On her own thread?

NoSquirrels · 22/08/2020 12:41

Just invite your parents to the conservatory. Then have a similar party in Croatia for his family & friends.

You’re making this 100x more complicated than it needs to be.

Venicelover · 22/08/2020 12:42

It sounds as if you were very sensible to divorce your first husband. You are a survivor, but you are (perhaps subconsciously?) pushing your Fiance away by not allowing joint decisions on the wedding plans.

If this was to carry on after you were married with the past tainting all future plans and celebrations, then he will leave, sooner or later. In a marriage or partnership you cannot be so selfish as to get your own way at all costs.

Draw a line under the past, congratulate yourself on having got through it and foud new happiness. Let it go.

Have a small wedding but allow him to have some of what he wants too. Invite your parents.

Xenia · 22/08/2020 12:42

It seems a bit unfair not to invite parents (which is what elopement to Gretna Green green for example usually involved), You can have a small wedding but include your parents surely? We had about 30 people for a full nuptial mass and restaurant lunch after (no evening do) and it was fine. We did it on a week day too. This was in the 1980s but same principles apply today.

lampshadery · 22/08/2020 12:45

His parents' happiness is more his responsibility than mine

But how is he supposed to take responsibility for his parents' happiness (in relation to this) if you won't let him invite them to his own wedding??

OhCaptain · 22/08/2020 12:48

@LaureBerthaud

On her own thread?
Yes?
NoSquirrels · 22/08/2020 12:48

Missed the conservatory being in Canada detail.

So if everyone has to travel to Canada, invite all parents & then friends. No other extended family. You can still do the big Croatian celebration your DP would like, there will be no associations of shame for you in that, and your parents have had equal chances to attend and wish you well at a pivotal moment in your life.

Stop complicating it. Relax!

ajs88 · 22/08/2020 12:48

@LaureBerthaud Yes sorry I changed name as I have different account on different batteries and lost battery life, also just took as a break as I was getting rather flamed

To clarify I don't want to hurt any party, but I am ok in disappointing other parties as controversial as it is to say

LaureBerthaud · 22/08/2020 12:53

Ah, read your update which wasn't in green.
I'm lost. I thought you were getting married in Croatia but apparently it's Canada. Are your 30 friends already there?

Staringpoodleplottingrottie · 22/08/2020 12:56

Totally disagree with the majority here. Marriage IS just about the two people marrying. I think parents who say they’d feel hurt and excluded are being selfish, their offspring’s wedding isn’t about them. I like my parents but I can’t imagine they’d be anything other than happy for me if I announced I’d got married “in secret”. And yes, frankly my friends are more important to me!

Fairenuff · 22/08/2020 13:08

[quote ajs88]@LaureBerthaud Yes sorry I changed name as I have different account on different batteries and lost battery life, also just took as a break as I was getting rather flamed

To clarify I don't want to hurt any party, but I am ok in disappointing other parties as controversial as it is to say[/quote]
How is changing name on your own thread going to be a break from 'getting flamed'? Name changing on a thread is against mn rules.

SnackSizeRaisin · 22/08/2020 13:13

Complicated. I can totally see why you don't want a repeat of your first wedding, that would be really difficult. Also your parents sound tricky. Can you compromise by doing a small wedding in Canada, without any family, and then having a blessing or celebration in Croatia? Your husband to be can invite his family and local friends to the Croatia one and you can invite your parents as well (invite only, don't bend over backwards to involve them).
The other option is register office only, if your HTB would be happy with that. Agree with others that excluding both sets of parents whilst inviting friends could cause resentment. In the end though, it's not about the day but about your future together so don't worry too much.

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 22/08/2020 13:28

In light of all this I'm seeing the following options for his parents...

1. Invite them to Canada for the conservatory wedding
2. Have a blessing and/or reception in Croatia
And for mine...

1. Either invite them as well and just deal with it
2. Not invite them and tell them why eek!

We had a really small wedding parents, siblings and best man and wife - that was fine. We've had family do destination weddings with very few guests but big party afterwards for wider family and friends - again fine. People do tend to be understanding of small weddings.

Have you tried running past his parents which options they'd perfer - tell them what your thinking and see which would work best for them - stressing you're still deciding but get a feel for which they'd prefer.

I'm not sure I get the issue with your parents TBH - but I think not having them there and having friend instead - as pp said friends do tend to disappear of get less important with time - would really hurt them and eloping would be less hurtful option.

ajs88 · 22/08/2020 13:43

To be clear I made original post on my phone, the battery died and I went to use my laptop but found it has a different account. I'm not a regular user so never noticed this before and couldn't remember loggin details. I'm sorry I'd find it annoying if reading too! I meant a took a break from replying for a moment, not changing names.

I think a lot of people are right saying that it's all getting very complicated.

I thought a 2 hour sign here, drinks and snacks with friends in our home city (we met there, and are now returning to settles down) in a location that is grand enough to be proper and special to us both (we spent our fifth date and became girlfriend/boyfriend there) followed by a party, was a nice simple solution to all of the logistics, costs and demands of four parents in three countries as well as accommodating both my OH's want for big wedding and mine to be married but without the faff. Which I'd feel ok with with all of the emotional baggage from my previous marriage and divorce, and issues with my parents around this.

And that as long as all parents were either invited or not invited, paid for or not paid for it would be considered fair, maybe disappointing but not offensive or hurtful. Realistically all but one would need to be paid for and I consider excluding people based on finances to be just as exclusionary if you know full well they can't afford it.

But like almost anything Wedding related it can get very complicated very quickly, particularly once you start adding locations, people, dinners, blessings etc. I think a lot of people who marry overseas experience this. And very offensive. The reality is that it is not your big day and people do not only want to see you happy (I experienced this first time round with both my Mum and MIL).

Ultimately you do you have to choose at some point between doing what you want and doing what others want you too, and the people who matter most in all this is me and OH. So if he's happy with it then fine.

But, and I have to thank everyone for this, I will think about the conversations I need to have with my parents before this happens (which I was avoiding), and concessions that need to be made to the parents (that I wasn't considering).

Again apologies for the name mess up

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YummyInMyTummy · 22/08/2020 13:52

I find it incredibly bizarre (not to mention hurtful towards both sets of parents) to only invite friends because of your embarrassment over it being your second wedding. It’s still your second wedding and they would still know it’s your second wedding, so I don’t see how it stops any (I’m misplaced) embarrassment for you.

I’m also totally confused as to where the wedding is happening, where you live, where your friends live and where each parent lives - so I don’t understand if there’s any logistical argument/benefits to this odd solution.

You don’t want to punish your fiancé for you having been married already, but you sort of are because you’re asking him to change the wedding he wants because of it (though obviously there should be a compromise between both of you as it’s both your wedding). You’re also punishing his parents and your parents.

YummyInMyTummy · 22/08/2020 13:53
  • I’m misplaced = imo misplaced.
ConkerGame · 22/08/2020 13:57

OP I totally get your points but I do think this is something you’ll need to talk through with your parents, not just spring on them all decided. You should try to bring them round to your point of view so that they become happy with your plans, as I don’t think they will be all that happy when they first hear them. Sorry.

1AngelicFruitCake · 22/08/2020 14:01

I think you’re being very unfair to your OH just because you’ve been married before.

Blueringedoctopus · 22/08/2020 14:07

Something very similar happened in my family with one of my siblings. It caused unbelievable amounts of hurt and 5 years later it still isn't resolved. The sibling still believes this is because people weren't invited. In reality none of us gave two hoots about going to the wedding (like you it was 2nd time around and we all understood why they might not want a fuss) , but we all found out via either social media or in my case in the supermarket from a person who had been to the ceremony. It was the not being told that really upset everyone. Prior to this we all had what we thought was a good relationship with my sibling but the ripple effect of their actions has been really extraordinary. By all means have the wedding you want but to not tell people you claim to be close to is a really bad idea. Plus these things have a funny way of getting out if other people know about it.

occa · 22/08/2020 14:18

If you're willing to put a real and lasting dent in your and your DP's relationships with your families then go for it, but I think you're dreaming if you think this isn't going to cause considerable hurt on both sides

MegaClutterSlut · 22/08/2020 14:28

I think its a bit of an arsehole move not to invite your parents or dhs. Your first wedding have nothing to do with this at all. I'd be well and truly fucked off and hurt if my dd/dil pulled this stunt. Give them the choice at least to attend, this may be your 2nd but its his first. Imagine if your ex dh said he didn't want your parents to go to the first wedding....if my dh said this there'd be no wedding!

Nanny0gg · 22/08/2020 14:47

@LaureBerthaud

On her own thread?
Yep