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This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:11

AIBU to think that the government have fucked up literally everything to do with schools and education this year?

Evidence:

Chaotic school closures and keyworker provision (couldn’t decide what a keyworker was until the very last minute)

Forgot that kids on free school meals would go hungry so heads had to go round delivering sandwiches while the DfE put together an utterly shambolic voucher system that crashed and was pretty unusable.

Issued no guidelines for minimum education requirements during lockdown leading to vastly different provision between schools. Even Ofsted said they couldn’t judge schools on lockdown provision as there were no standards to judge them against.

Had to be shamed into u-turning on their insistence that free school meal children should go hungry during the holidays by a celebrity footballer (well done Marcus Rashford you absolute star)

Fed stories to friendly newspapers about schools re-opening in May to judge public reaction, leading to anxiety and uncertainty among parents and school staff

Announced that primary schools would open to all pupils before the summer holidays, an announcement that had surely not been run past anyone who worked in schools given that under the government’s own guidelines for schools for bubbles of 15 and no rotas, this would require double the classrooms and double the teachers available. Then backtracked on this a few weeks later (getting the friendly press to blame the unions) again creating uncertainty, anxiety and disappointment for parents and pupils.

Ignored education select committee questions about Ofqual’s algorithm when they raised issues in July

Lied and said they didn’t have early access to the data from Ofqual’s algorithm

When Scotland u-turned on their use of an algorithm, instead of making a considered response, came out with the bizarre notion that kids could use their mock grades - a suggestion that had obviously never been put past anyone who worked in schools. Again.

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Fed stories to the friendly press that the unions are blocking the re-opening of schools in September so if it goes tits-up, they can blame them again (unions are asking for a ‘plan B’ in the case of local lockdowns, and for working conditions comparable to those of all other workers, no strike action has been proposed or balloted for so they couldn’t block re-opening even if they wanted to)

Blamed Ofqual for the algorithm they were told to create (prioritising statistics over teacher assessment)

Branded a teacher payrise that was agreed back in January a ‘reward for work during lockdown’, knowing this was incorrect, and deliberately fuelling outrage that they themselves had caused by having no minimum requirements for education in lockdown leading to vastly different provision.

Not funding this payrise so teachers probably won’t get it as otherwise it will lead to redundancies for other staff members due to having to fund it from already dire staffing budgets.

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

Instructed heads not to take any measures that would improve safety but would require more space (e.g. use of village halls) or not have pupils in full time (rotas, staggered timetables).

Didn’t realise that kids wouldn’t be able to get to school on public transport under current social distancing requirements as there aren’t enough buses until three weeks before schools reopened, and decided to throw £40 million to LAs to sort this (what? buy more buses?) so that they could blame the LAs when it inevitably goes wrong and kids can’t get to school.

And these are the people currently running a campaign to convince parents that they are capable of re-opening schools safely.

YABU: I have full confidence in the government and am perfectly happy with how things have gone so far

YANBU: It is mind-boggling how incompetent they have been, and how little thought they have given to the education of the nation’s children.

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 24/08/2020 20:58

@Clavinova

Typical Westminster approach on masks. Let's not have a plan and then when it goes tits up blame the teachers and say they should have worn masks.

The school term hasn't started in England - what has Nicola Sturgeon decided?

According to the BBC report Boris and the gang are to nothing at least Nicola is doing something

"The guidance is silent on what schools should do if staff or pupils want to wear face coverings," says Geoff Barton of the ASCL head teachers' union.

A Downing Street spokesman ruled out any review on masks in school.

In Scotland's secondary schools, face coverings will be used in corridors and shared areas.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 24/08/2020 21:00

@Clavinova

It's £151 a day shared between 1000 kids at our school.

How many kids attend your school in total?

thats 15p per student
Clavinova · 24/08/2020 21:16

According to school travel surveys, up to 30% of secondary school pupils [in England] travel by school bus or public transport - pre-Covid.

It's £151 a day shared between 1000 kids at our school.

Your local authority is likely to allocate more funding to some schools/bus routes than others - your school may be allocated £300 per day, £600 per day...

itsgettingweird · 24/08/2020 21:17

@Clavinova

ps the schools week article is a little 'old'

Arguably, the main point of my post was the government's £1.6 billion support funding for TfL.

Which IIRC came with caveats. One of which was raising the congestion charge which then created extra charges for nhs workers who were told to drive and avoid public transport.
ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 21:18

@StaffAssociationRepresentative

A few hundred more than 1000.

So less than 15p per child per day.

itsgettingweird · 24/08/2020 21:18

@Clavinova

It's £151 a day shared between 1000 kids at our school.

How many kids attend your school in total?

Well I'd guess 1000Grin
thecatsatonthewall · 24/08/2020 21:21

Westminster responds with no plan to do so in England. I recall a similar chain of events when it came to mock results

You could add in Quarantine, Testing, Face masks in shops, Exam results.

We always seem to be behind the curve, playing catch up & not learning from others.

ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 21:21

@Clavinova

According to school travel surveys, up to 30% of secondary school pupils [in England] travel by school bus or public transport - pre-Covid.

It's £151 a day shared between 1000 kids at our school.

Your local authority is likely to allocate more funding to some schools/bus routes than others - your school may be allocated £300 per day, £600 per day...

Or they may not..
SmileEachDay · 24/08/2020 21:23

Clav what do you get out of all this? Why do you spend so many hours contradicting teachers?

It’s not because what we do affects you - we’ve established that you live a privileged existence ~in Scarborough~...

So why do you do it? And don’t say “best practice” because that’s total bs.

Clavinova · 24/08/2020 21:24

Well I'd guess 1000

No doubt some bright spark decided to build a school in the middle of nowhere. Grin

ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 21:26

@itsgettingweird

GrinA few hundred live near enough to walk.

Clavinova · 24/08/2020 21:26

I enjoy listening to the radio - gives me something to do at the same time...

cantkeepawayforever · 24/08/2020 21:27

@Clavinova

According to school travel surveys, up to 30% of secondary school pupils [in England] travel by school bus or public transport - pre-Covid.

It's £151 a day shared between 1000 kids at our school.

Your local authority is likely to allocate more funding to some schools/bus routes than others - your school may be allocated £300 per day, £600 per day...

But that remains completely pointless if each route now needs 2-3x as many buses to allow a decent level of SD - however much money here is, bus companies just don't have 2 - 3 x the usual number of buses (and drivers) lying around unused.

This is particularly the case because the need for buses is concentrated in particular places - some schools may have 0 children travelling by bus, other schools 80%, with the high figures being concentrated in schools in rural areas where there just aren't large over-stocked bus companies just raring to hire out their completely spare buses by the hundred....

ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 21:27

@Clavinova

Well I'd guess 1000

No doubt some bright spark decided to build a school in the middle of nowhere. Grin

Some bright spark closed all the other ones in the last ten years.
StaffAssociationRepresentative · 24/08/2020 21:29

@Clavinova

Well I'd guess 1000

No doubt some bright spark decided to build a school in the middle of nowhere. Grin

Someone from the DfE - bunch of idiots
itsgettingweird · 24/08/2020 21:29

[quote ChavvySexPond]@itsgettingweird

GrinA few hundred live near enough to walk. [/quote]
Yeah fair enough. Re read the post.

Definitely case of must.do.better WinkGrin

SmileEachDay · 24/08/2020 21:30

I enjoy listening to the radio - gives me something to do at the same time...

So you actually don’t give much of a shit about any of it?

I just....I can’t imagine being like that? It’s like me joining thread after thread of fox hunters and spamming them with screenshot from Horse and Hound.

ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 21:30

@itsgettingweird

GrinGrinGrin

Clavinova · 24/08/2020 21:35

Why do you spend so many hours contradicting teachers?

Actually, I avoided most of the teacher threads during lockdown - you were far too busy arguing.

cantkeepawayforever · 24/08/2020 21:36

@Clavinova

Well I'd guess 1000

No doubt some bright spark decided to build a school in the middle of nowhere. Grin

www.hanleycastle.worcs.sch.uk/ is a possible example - some bright spark back in the 1300s decided to build a school, now 1000 pupils, in a village with about 1500 souls spread between it and the neighbouring village.

It serves a large, rural area and a fairly small town: I would imagine that many travel by bus.

sarahC40 · 24/08/2020 21:43

Ooh are some schools having bubbles still? We seem to have burst ours except for staggered and separate lunchtime - I foresee crowded corridors filled with a mixture of ages. I’m going to take a picture every single time to send to the head to ask him to come and help or at least suggest masks.

Clavinova · 24/08/2020 21:50

It serves a large, rural area and a fairly small town: I would imagine that many travel by bus.

Unlikely to be all 1,000 pupils though - quite a few parents will probably choose to drive their children to school during the current situation.

we’ve established that you live a privileged existence

Not particularly - South East.

SmileEachDay · 24/08/2020 21:55

we’ve established that you live a privileged existence

Not particularly - South East

Holy moly.

You work very part time, by choice. You send your kids to indi schools. Your husband is “very high up”.

You’re massively privileged. Please tell me you recognise that.

cantkeepawayforever · 24/08/2020 22:01

Unlikely to be all 1,000 pupils though - quite a few parents will probably choose to drive their children to school during the current situation.

Well, some will be forced to, because of the obvious safety issues with the bus.....but saying that the government has done a good job / provided enough on the grounds that parents are having to take matters into their own hands due to the complete failure of the Government to properly fund and arrange an alternative is a little rich....

cantkeepawayforever · 24/08/2020 22:04

It's like saying that schools are well enough funded to have glue sticks, because teachers buy them out of their own pockets when there aren't enough....

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